http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/sports/colleges/16387327.htm

I'd put us above Michigan and Syracuse.

1/10/2007 10:37:16 AM

hey, you even copied and pasted the part about michigan and syracuse from packpride!

1/10/2007 10:43:37 AM

Definitely above Michigan, what have they won?

1/10/2007 10:43:41 AM

yeah i did get it from packpride, but we should be above Michigan and Syracuse. Michigan State and Connecticut though should be up there, possibly above us.

1/10/2007 10:49:42 AM

^^Michigan State won a title with Magic and then another one in 2000? State in Hodge's freshman year knocked them out of the tourney the year after they won

Also Michigan won in 1990? with Glen Rice, Rumeal Robinson, etc

Still that doesnt fuck with

NCSU: 2
Duke: 3
UNC: 4/5

edit:

whoops I was thinking of Michigan as a state...its close but I'd put us above them

[Edited on January 10, 2007 at 11:18 AM. Reason : .]

1/10/2007 11:18:23 AM

When you consider our history involving the Southern Conference and Everett Case, we definitely should be higher than Michigan and Syracuse. Our recent history (last 20 yrs) has really taken a toll on other's perception of us as one of the greatest programs ever.

1/10/2007 11:52:50 AM

Looking over that list, it basically comes down to final four appearances which I guess is fair.

1/10/2007 12:10:07 PM

Well it depends on how you define it.

If it's based on history or more specifically contributions, both regionally and nationally, to the game of college basketball you can easily argue we are a Top 3-5 program. No program had as big an influence on college basketball in the South than NC State. We built the "MSG of the South" and were, for all intents and purposes, the flagship program of the ACC.

If it's based on consistency through different era's we'd likely be in the Top 10. UCLA, UNC, Louisville, Kentucky, and a few others I'm likely overlooking would rank higher.

If it's based on tangible results that are cumulative throughout history, regardless of longterm consistency I wouldn't rank us in the Top 10. In no particular order I'll list some programs that seem to be more accomplished to me.

NC State: 2 National Championships, 3 Final Fours, 22 NCAA Appearances

UNC: 4 NCs, 16 FFs, 38 NCAA App.
Duke: 3 NCs, 14 FFs, 30 NCAA App.
Louisville: 2 NCs, 8 FFs, 32 NCAA App.
UConn: 2 NCs, 2 FFs, 27 NCAA App.
Syracuse: 1 NC, 4 FFs, 31 NCAA App.
Michigan State: 2 NC, 6 FFs, 20 NCAA App.
Indiana: 5 NC, 8 FFs, 33 NCAA App.
Kentucky: 7 NCs, 13 FFs, 48 NCAA App.
UCLA: 11 NCs, 15 FFs, 40 NCAA App.
Kansas: 1 NC, 12 FFs, 35 NCAA App.
Cincinnatti: 2 NC, 6 FFs, 24 NCAA App.

1/10/2007 12:40:46 PM

Quote :

"and anywhere you go in the world, someone is wearing a Tar Heels cap."

yea no shit...

1/10/2007 2:18:37 PM

even in South Africa.




There was a guy with an NC State hat too.

but that was me.

1/10/2007 2:22:01 PM

fucking michael jordan.

ever wonder where we'd be basketball wise if thompson hadn't taken up coke? =(

1/10/2007 2:54:44 PM

# of cinderella wins for ncsu: 1

1/10/2007 7:03:37 PM

I was born the day before. It was all in celebration of my birth.

1/10/2007 7:06:29 PM

What I don't get is the UTEP aka Texas Western being on there. Yeah their title was historic, but the subject is hoop dynasties, not the social relevance of one win.

1/12/2007 8:10:49 PM

Quote :

"NC State: 2 National Championships, 3 Final Fours, 22 NCAA Appearances"

10 ACC Championships is nothing to scoff at either, considering it's historically the best conference in the nation.


If you look at Final Fours, Championships, and NCAA Appearances, you would think that a team like Maryland could arguably be up there with NC State (And I don't know Maryland's NCAA appearances off the top of my head)

I do know that they only have 2-3 ACC championships to our 10.

1/12/2007 11:50:33 PM