With the very real possibility of war with Iran in the near future, a few points need to be made about who is pushing for this conflict, why, and the lies used as the pretext for the war.

It's just like with Iraq. The Zionists, Israelis, Neocon warhawks, and other interests connected to the Jewish/Zionist Cabal that controls our government and media are fabricating lies in order to trick the public into supporting another war that advances their agenda of global domination and control. Iran is a nation that will not comply with their plan for a "new world order." So they have to subdue Iran.

The 9/11 false flag operation set the stage for all of these wars. Then it was the lies about Iraq's "WMD threat" as the pretext to the Iraq war. Now they're cooking up all kinds of bullshit about Iran in order to try to trick the public into supporting another war....Iran's uranium enrichment for a nuclear power plants being painted as "Iran trying to get nukes"...claims that Iran is "supporting the terrorists in Iraq"...playing up Ahmadinejad comments and painting him as the "next Hitler"...overall trying to scare the public into thinking Iran is a real threat.

As for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad...yes, he may have made some statements about "whiping Israel off the map." But he and the muslim world have good reason to oppose Zionist Israel, given all they have done...eg, orchestration of the war and occupation of Iraq, the occupation of Palestine, etc. And muslim leaders have been making statements like that on a near daily basis for the past several decades. So why is the Jewish-controlled mainstream media making a big deal of it now? Obviously to push war with Iran. And for all we know, the media is taking Ahmadinejad's comments out of context or even mistranslating them.

And even IF you believe that Iran is really about to get nuclear weapons, what justification is there for an attack against Iran? They are a sovereign nation, and have the right to obtain nuclear weapons if they so choose. And even if they had nuclear weapons, they would not be a threat to the U.S. or to the Jewish state of "Israel". The U.S. and Israel have FAR MORE nuclear weapons than Iran. It would be virtual suicide for Iran to attack the U.S. or Israel with nuclear weapons. And as for the argument that Iran would give a nuclear weapon to terrorists, the reality is that the "al Qaeda" and muslim terrorist threat is greatly exaggerated/fabricated. The real anti-American so-called "terrorists" are nothing more than freedom-fighters resisting the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq.

1/15/2007 1:00:29 PM

shut the fuck up

man that block user plugin is so handy

1/15/2007 1:03:14 PM

For the record, Amadinejad has never said that israel should be wiped off the map. What he said is the existence of israel in plaestine should cease. Big difference there.

This is not me saying that I think zionist control everything or are even orchestrating everything.

[Edited on January 15, 2007 at 1:05 PM. Reason : zionists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

1/15/2007 1:04:03 PM

Who exactly is pushing for this war?

FLASHBACK ARTICLES:

'Iran is world's most serious threat since WWII'
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1138622565209&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Bush: US must ensure Israel's security
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1145961282236&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

Knesset member: Strike Iran now: Warns if U.S., others don't take action, Israel should act alone
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50257

U.S. Politicians Should Focus On Tehran, Netanyahu Says
http://www.nysun.com/article/39275?access=990612

Netanyahu: It's 1938 and Iran is Germany; Ahmadinejad is preparing another Holocaust
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/787766.html



[Edited on January 15, 2007 at 1:22 PM. Reason : ``]

1/15/2007 1:22:14 PM

sorry in advance for the multi-post, i prepared this in advance

With the very real possibility of war with Iran in the near future, a few points need to be made about who is pushing for this conflict, why, and the lies used as the pretext for the war.

It's just like with Iraq. The Zionists, Israelis, and Neocon warhawks are fabricating lies in order to trick the public into supporting another war that advances their agenda of global domination and control. Think that global domination is not their goal? Go and read some of the publications at the Neocon think tank, the Project for the New American Century:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

With Iraq it was the mythical WMDs, and now with Iran they're lying about Iran's "nukes." The near daily talk coming from the media about Iran "having nukes" or "trying to get nukes" is pure propaganda and lies. It's fearmongering. Iran is NOT a threat, just as Iraq was not a threat. Iran is building a nuclear POWER PLANT.

These people have already deliberately lied and tricked us into one war. Why believe them this time when they try to scare you into supporting another war?

And there is a big difference between uranium enrichment for a nuclear power plant and enrichment for nuclear weapons. The fuel that is produced from the uranium enrichment reactors for a nuclear power plant IS NOT WEAPONS-GRADE MATERIAL.


More Lies about Iran
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11572.htm


Commentary:

Quote :

"Iran is not building nuclear weapons. Nobody has found any. Nobody has found any proof of a program to build them. There is no more proof than Iran has nuclear weapons than Iraq had nuclear weapons. What Iran is openly building and has allowed inspectors to visit unrestricted is a power station. And now they want to enrich uranium to use as fuel. The warhawks are claiming that this enrichment can be used to make nuclear weapons. However for anyone who understands nuclear physics, the difference between fuel-grade and weapons-grade enrichment is not as trivial as the media makes it seem. An enrichment plant built to make fuel rods has to be heavily modified and expanded before it can make significant amounts of weapons-grade materials. Such expansions are easily seen and unmistakable in their intent. And so far, nobody has provided any proof at all that Iran has anything other than nuclear power on their agenda... http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ "

Even IF you believe that Iran is trying to get nuclear weapons, what justification is there for an attack against Iran? They are a sovereign nation, and have the right to obtain nuclear weapons if they so choose. And even if they had nuclear weapons, they would not be a threat to the U.S. (or to the Jewish state of "Israel"). The U.S. and Israel would have FAR MORE nuclear weapons than Iran. It would be virtual suicide for Iran to attack the U.S. or Israel with nuclear weapons.

[Edited on January 15, 2007 at 1:34 PM. Reason : sorry for multi-post]

1/15/2007 1:32:51 PM

Flashback:

Sydney Morning Herald: "Defence redefined means securing cheap energy"
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/12/25/1040511092926.html

Quote :

""As far back as 1975, Henry Kissinger, then secretary of state, said America was prepared to wage war over oil. Separate plans advocating US conquest of Saudi oilfields were published in the '70s. So it should come as little surprise that in May last year - four months before the terrorist attacks on Washington and New York - a battle plan for Afghanistan was already being reviewed by the US Command that would carry it out after September 11. Military strategists were highlighting the energy wealth of the Caspian Sea and Central Asia and its importance to America's "security"."

Military take-overs of Middle Eastern and Central Asian countries in the name of "America's security", or to "secure America's leadership role in the world"? Straight out of the PNAC/Neocon playbook.

1/15/2007 1:33:26 PM

WHO IS SENDING YOUR CHILDREN OFF TO DIE IN WAR?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/offtowar.html

Note: It's not the Israeli government that controls the U.S. government (the site is not making that argument, but it could be wrongly inferred). Rather, it is the international Zionist elite (who control both the Israeli government and the American government). This control over the U.S. government was finalized with the Federal Reserve Act, which gave the Zionist/Jewish banking cabal control over the issuance of currency. The Federal Reserve is NOT a government entity. It is a private company (owned by Jewish banking families). That is why we have a national debt. The government cannot be in debt to itself. We are now over 8 Trillion in debt to this banking cabal. That is how our government is controlled. The borrower is the slave to the lender. And how much more of a slave are you under such a gigantic debt.

1/15/2007 1:34:32 PM

Quote :

"and about the new world order - How can you POSSIBLY use that as ammunition in any real debate. Conspiracy Theories are a joke until you can PROVE them - which you can't. Therefore..."

The "new world order" is not some theory. It is a conspiracy FACT. World leaders openly talk about it.

George W. Bush calls for new world order
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20041202-122549-7793r.htm

CNN -- "Pope calls for a new world order"
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/01/01/pope.ny.ap/

BBC -- "Blair's push for new world order"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1594675.stm

"Gorbachev Calls for 'New World Order'
http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewPolitics.asp?Page=\Politics\archive\200410\POL20041006b.html

"Putin speaks of new world order"
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/11/16/21108.html

Quote :

"For all of those "people" who think of jews or isreal as "Zionist" and the meaning behind that word, id look at about the only reason this theory is still around. It is because of this peice of crap right here, made before the Czar was overthrown. It is a book that is susposed to be a account of a meeting of jews that will take over world. When you read the book, just try not to laugh to hard."

The document known as "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" is genuine, despite frantic denials by Jews and those in the media.

The strongest evidence in favor of the authenticity of the Protocols is the fact that the plans laid out in the Protocols have been subsequently implemented--including Jewish Zionist domination and control of the press and media, the attack on Christianity and belief in God in public education and society, the rise of world government and globalism, the destruction of the middle class, etc. Despite the strong denials by Jewish sources and false claims that the Protocols are a "forgery" or "fraud", all the evidence tends to show that they are authentic--the most compelling evidence being history itself, showing that the plans contained in the Protocols are being carried out.

Further supporting the Protocols authenticity is the Babylonian Talmud--which some say makes the Protocols appear tame by comparison. An uncensored edition of the Talmud was just recently released to the public, reavealing for the first time the full depth of its depravity and horror. The Talmud contains virtually all of the key doctrinal points that are contained in the Protocols--including rabid anti-Christian teaching, the idea that the Jews are the "master race" and that all other peoples are "subhuman cattle" that the Jews can rightfully steal from, enslave, and kill...that the Jews can use usury against non-Jews, that the Jews must aim to dominate and control the world and subdue non-Jews, etc.

Don't just believe the claims that the document is fake. Read the document and judge for yourself. It is one of the most amazing writings in the world. The document is amazing for the brilliance of the plan and the profound understanding of the human mind and condition. No other document provides such a clear understanding of why and how the world is moving in its current direction towards tyranny and globalism, and who is responsible.


The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm

Website with excellent articles on the authenticity of the Protocols:
http://www.iahushua.com/BeWise/protocol.html

1/15/2007 1:35:17 PM

Flashbacks:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article305741.ece

Quote :

"UN nuclear watchdog rebuts claims that Iran is trying to make A-bomb By Anne Penketh Published: 14 August 2005 The UN nuclear watchdog is preparing to publish evidence that Iran is not engaged in a nuclear weapons programme, undermining a warning of possible military action from President George Bush. The US President told Israeli television that "all options are on the table" if Iran fails to comply with international calls to halt its nuclear programme. Both the US and Israel - the Middle East's only nuclear-armed power - were "united in our objective to make sure Iran does not have a weapon", he said. However, Iran is about to receive a major boost from the results of a scientific analysis that will prove that the country's authorities were telling the truth when they said they were not developing a nuclear weapon."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/22/AR2005082201447.html

Quote :

"No Proof Found of Iran Arms Program Uranium Traced to Pakistani Equipment By Dafna Linzer Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, August 23, 2005 Traces of bomb-grade uranium found two years ago in Iran came from contaminated Pakistani equipment and are not evidence of a clandestine nuclear weapons program, a group of U.S. government experts and other international scientists has determined. "The biggest smoking gun that everyone was waving is now eliminated with these conclusions," said a senior official who discussed the still-confidential findings on the condition of anonymity."

1/15/2007 1:36:14 PM

!kcab er'uoy ,doog hO

1/15/2007 1:37:02 PM

ps, sorry if i stole some of your next posts

1/15/2007 1:37:34 PM

guth, your trolling isn't hurting me

it just shows that spamming, trolling, trying to run me out of here, etc is the only counter you have to my arguments

you can't have a rational debate on these issues...because the facts aren't on your side

1/15/2007 1:40:12 PM

this isnt trolling, im seriously concerned. i mean i took the time to type up all of my responses in advance and everything. just look at who is in power.

1/15/2007 1:42:13 PM

Trying to suggest that I'm an alias of yours isn't going to work, guth. Everyone knows that's just another ploy you're trying to use to get me suspened or run me out.

1/15/2007 1:44:05 PM

just because we agree doesnt mean youre my alias, stop trying to smear me

1/15/2007 1:45:32 PM

Quote :

"just because we agree doesnt mean youre my alias, stop trying to smear me"

just like the Zionists themselves

accuse others of exacly what you are doing

I see you learned well

1/15/2007 1:47:17 PM

Revelation 2:9: "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

1/15/2007 1:48:04 PM

Guth, your spamming and trolling isn't stopping people from reading the thread. It is attracting more people.

Thanks.




[Edited on January 15, 2007 at 1:53 PM. Reason : `]

1/15/2007 1:52:40 PM

are you talking about guth? i dont think he has posted.

1/15/2007 2:10:41 PM

honestly...the biggest proponents of war with Iran seems to be the liberal media...and that all in an attempt to slam the bush administration for "sercretly planning a war" with Iran...they are the ones causing all the tension

1/15/2007 2:16:35 PM

well we know who owns the media...

1/15/2007 2:19:35 PM

i think its the zionist republicans:
Yeah, Zionist, pro-Israel (and often dual citizenship) Jews have absolutely no influence on the government. It's not like the Bush Administration was/is stacked with them...

Richard Perle--chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board
Paul Wolfowitz--former Deputy Defense Secretary
Michael Chertoff--Homeland Security Secretary
John Bolton--former Undersecretary of State, now US ambassador to the United Nations
Henry Kissinger--Pentagon Advisor, initial Bush pick to chair the "9/11 Commission"
Dov Zakheim--Under Secretary of Defense
Lewis "Scooter" Libby--Vice President Dick Cheney's Chief of Staff
Ari Fleischer--White House Spokesman
James Schlesinger--Pentagon's Defense Policy Board member
Elliott Abrams--National Security Council Advisor
Douglas Feith--Under Secretary of Defense

And that's just to name a few of them.
more: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/bushjews.html

You know, for a group that supposedly only represents around 2% of the U.S. population, they sure do have quite an influence on the Bush Administration (as well as the Clinton and other administrations). And let's not forget that John Kerry revealed his Jewish ancestry just before the '04 election. And this may shock some, but many of our former presidents--including Eisenhower, Roosevelt, Truman, and Lyndon Johnson--may have, in fact, been of Jewish descent.


Oh, and let's look and see who's working with PNAC. It couldn't be a bunch of Zionist Jews, could it?

William Kristol--Founder and Chairman of PNAC

other Jewish PNAC members: Richard Perle, John Bolton, Lewis Libby, Paul Wolfowitz, Dov S. Zakheim, Elliott Abrams, Rudy Boschwitz, Eliot A. Cohen, Aaron Friedberg, Stephen Rosen

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century


Just look at the PNAC members who contributed to the infamous document "Rebuilding America's Defenses." Upon only cursory examination, it looks like around half of them are Jews:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf


But all of this doesn't matter. Dual citizenship, Israel-first Zionist Jews dominating the government is good for America. Hey, we get to fight all their enemies for them--eg, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc.


or as wesley clark calls them: new york money people
http://www.forward.com/articles/top-dem-wesley-clark-says-ny-money-people-pu/

Quote :

"Top Dem Wesley Clark Says ‘N.Y. Money People’ Pushing War With Iran Fri. Jan 12, 2007 Nathan Guttman Washington - Retired general Wesley Clark drew harsh criticism this week after reportedly saying that “New York money people” are pushing America into a war against Iran. [...] Huffington quoted Clark as saying that the idea of bombing Iran before exhausting diplomatic avenues was “outrageous.” According to Huffington, she then asked Clark what made him so sure that the United States is headed in the direction of attacking Iran, and he replied: “You just have to read what’s in the Israeli press. The Jewish community is divided, but there is so much pressure being channeled from the New York money people to the office seekers.” The phrase “New York money people” struck unpleasant chords with many pro-Israel activists. They interpreted it as referring to the Jewish community, which is known for its significant financial donations to political candidates. Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, spoke to Clark shortly after the former general made his remarks. “He is a friend of Israel and is not an antisemite,” Foxman told the Forward, “but some of the things he said are very, very unfortunate.”"

Yes, it's unfortunate for organized Jewry when someone prominent states an important truth which goes even a little way in exposing the powerful Jewish interests at work. But not only that...these comments are "utterly outrageus", "shameful", and "deeply offensive."

Quote :

"Foxman argued that while he does not accuse Clark of believing in conspiracy theories that paint the Jews and Israel as pushing the United States into war, the former general “fueled the flames and gave credibility to these theories.”"

Yes it's just a "conspiracy theory" that Jews and Israel have been pushing the United States into war against Iraq and Iran. There is absolutely no basis to those claims at all. It's paranoid tinfoil crazy talk.

Quote :

"The Republican Jewish Coalition described Clark’s alleged comments as “blatantly antisemitic” and claimed that they were part of a larger trend of antisemitism seeping into mainstream Democratic political discourse. “Wesley Clark owes American Jews an apology,” said the RJC’s executive director, Matthew Brooks."

That's right. I forgot that these remarks were "racist" and "antisemitc" as well. I think a million apologies are in order. Clark should grovel at the feet of the precious Jews. But even then, they should never forgive him.

You see, speaking the truth is "antisemitic." Don't tell too much of the truth when it comes to anything connected to the Jews or the state of Israel.

Quote :

"During the campaign, Clark made several references to his Jewish family background, noting that though he was not aware of it until adulthood, he was proud of his heritage."

Wesley Clark is Jewish himself. But that doesn't matter. If you speak the truth about the Jews, you're an "evil bigotted antisemite."

1/15/2007 2:23:32 PM

so wait...is JonHGuth trolling by posting real data and agreeing with salisburyboy? i'm confused. how is this trolling?

1/15/2007 2:25:05 PM

im posting real stuff, yeah i dont get how me agreeing with him is trolling

1/15/2007 2:26:12 PM

maybe its just paranoia to the neXt lvl. lol

1/15/2007 2:29:39 PM

When will this become a argument on gun control like every other thread in here recently?

1/15/2007 2:48:38 PM

since my thread got locked by some MSM type

From the Jewish paper Haaretz comes this article, with the admission that almost all of the Necon-PNAC boys who are pushing for these wars are Jews:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050208094343/www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=280279

Quote :

"White man's burden 05/04/2003 By Ari Shavit The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. [...] In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in the town: the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish, almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of history."

1/15/2007 2:49:32 PM

1/15/2007 2:50:53 PM

http://www.forward.com/articles/book-israel-lobby-pushing-iran-war/

Quote :

"Book: Israel, Lobby Pushing Iran War Nathan Guttman | Fri. Dec 29, 2006 A former United Nations weapons inspector and leading Iraq War opponent has written a new book alleging that Jerusalem is pushing the Bush administration into war with Iran, and accusing the pro-Israel lobby of dual loyalty and “outright espionage.” In the new book, called “Target Iran,” Scott Ritter, who served as a senior U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq from 1991 to 1998 and later became one of the war’s staunchest critics, argues that the United States is readying for military action against Iran, using its nuclear program as a pretext for pursuing regime change in Tehran. “The Bush administration, with the able help of the Israeli government and the pro-Israel Lobby, has succeeded,” Ritter writes, “in exploiting the ignorance of the American people about nuclear technology and nuclear weapons so as to engender enough fear that the American public has more or less been pre-programmed to accept the notion of the need to militarily confront a nuclear armed Iran.” ..."

1/15/2007 3:02:03 PM

Quote :

"The 9/11 false flag operation set the stage for all of these wars. Then it was the lies about Iraq's "WMD threat" as the pretext to the Iraq war. Now they're cooking up all kinds of bullshit about Iran in order to try to trick the public into supporting another war....Iran's uranium enrichment for a nuclear power plants being painted as "Iran trying to get nukes"...claims that Iran is "supporting the terrorists in Iraq"...playing up Ahmadinejad comments and painting him as the "next Hitler"...overall trying to scare the public into thinking Iran is a real threat."

If, as you claim, 9/11 was orchestrated by elements within the government as a reason to invade Afghanistan, Iraq, and Iran - why were none of the hijackers Afghan, Iraqi, Iranian, or Syrian? Couldn't they have easily said the a handful of the hijackers were Iraqi and Iranian intelligence officers? That would have completely eliminated the need to fabricate a WMD threat or to mistranslate Ahmadinejad's words and would have likewise eliminated any political fallout.

1/15/2007 3:36:56 PM

because using the word terrorist scares the population into being sheep.

1/15/2007 3:40:02 PM

"state-sponsored terrorist"

1/15/2007 3:43:48 PM

1/15/2007 3:49:34 PM

uh..that IS the angle they used. hence why they invaded 2 countries and are planning to invade a few more.

1/15/2007 3:49:58 PM

they said that iran caused 9/11?

1/15/2007 4:01:32 PM

They dont have to say Iran caused 9/11, they just have to use the Nukes and WMD thing again

1/15/2007 4:47:55 PM

Quote :

"If, as you claim, 9/11 was orchestrated by elements within the government as a reason to invade Afghanistan, Iraq, and Iran - why were none of the hijackers Afghan, Iraqi, Iranian, or Syrian? Couldn't they have easily said the a handful of the hijackers were Iraqi and Iranian intelligence officers?"

The framed/named so-called "hijackers" included Egyptian and Saudi Arabian nationals. Does that mean the real orchestrators of the attacks intended to attack Egypt and Saudi Arabia?

The main purpose of framing Arabs for the attack was to perpetuate the idea of the threat of Islamic terrorist groups....giving the pretext to invade virtually any muslim nation where "al Qaeda/terrorists" are claimed/alleged to operate.

I suppose they could have claimed one or more of the hijackers was Iranian and that would help their agenda of attacking Iran now. But it doesn't really matter. They can just as easily come out and claim Iran is funding terrorists/al-Qaeda in Iraq, Iran is trying to get WMDs, etc.

1/15/2007 4:48:22 PM

People can crap on this forum all day long without fear.

But mess with Salisburybot? SUSPENDED

1/15/2007 4:50:13 PM

lets not turn a legitimate thread about the Jewish threat into another whacko 9/11 nutjob ramble

1/15/2007 4:50:48 PM

Quote :

"People can crap on this forum all day long without fear. But mess with Salisburybot? SUSPENDED"

Please. I'm the one who has posting restrictions and was suspended. Why? For posting non-Kosher, politically incorrect views.

Meanwhile, the troll brigade of JonHGuth and others crap all over my threads and the soap box with their cheese threads and other nonsense.

It's a joke.

1/15/2007 4:59:20 PM

Quote :

"non-Kosher"

Buddum-chissshhhh

1/15/2007 5:01:39 PM

^^ It's not that you post non-kosher news. People get away with calling other niggers on this forum, for Christ's sake.

It's because you're analysis and logic are usually pretty idiotic and flawed. Once you acknowledge other peoples' post honestly and try to understand their ideas (esp. when they are right), and adjust your own accordingly, people will respect you more, AND you'll have a stronger position. As it is now, you're just a whackjob who has spouted the same crap on here for several YEARS with no sign of change. That's almost the definition of insanity.

[Edited on January 15, 2007 at 5:04 PM. Reason : ]

1/15/2007 5:04:03 PM

the analysis that jews in high positions of the government are pushing us towards a war with iran is not flawed

1/15/2007 5:05:40 PM

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/12/05/1070351789502.html?from=storyrhs

Quote :

"Israel linked to Iraq intelligence failure, general says By Molly Moore Jerusalem December 6, 2003 Israel was a "full partner" in American and British intelligence failures that exaggerated former president Saddam Hussein's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs before the US-led invasion of Iraq, a report by an Israeli military research centre has alleged. "The failures of this war indicate weaknesses and inherent flaws within Israeli intelligence and among Israeli decision-makers," Brigadier-General Shlomo Brom wrote in an analysis for Tel Aviv University's Jaffee Centre for Strategic Studies. Israeli intelligence services and political leaders provided "an exaggerated assessment of Iraqi capabilities", raising "the possibility that the intelligence picture was manipulated", wrote General Brom, former deputy commander of the Israeli military's planning division. David Baker, a spokesman for Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, declined to comment on the report. The allegations parallel those raised in the United States, Britain and Australia. Officials have combed Iraq and interrogated former authorities for months, but have turned up little evidence to support the pre-war assessments of Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs. "In the questioning of the picture painted by coalition intelligence, the third party in this intelligence failure, Israel, has remained in the shadows," the report said. "Israeli intelligence was a full partner to the picture presented by American and British intelligence regarding Iraq's non-conventional capabilities. "A critical question to be answered is whether governmental bodies falsely manipulated the intelligence information in order to gain support for their decision to go to war in Iraq." [...]"

It wasn't an intelligence "failure."

The deliberate fabrication of false "intelligence" as the pretext for the war was a great success. It worked...people fell for it and the war occured as planned.

1/16/2007 1:46:00 PM

who let this guy back?

1/16/2007 1:47:06 PM

I blame the Jews.

1/16/2007 1:47:19 PM

Quote :

"whiping Israel off the map"

sounds kinky

1/16/2007 1:52:56 PM

Quote :

"who let this guy back?"

The real question is why trolls like you are trying to prevent me from posting.

1/16/2007 1:57:18 PM

Answer: I'm paid to do so by an underground group of Jews known as The Beige Star.

1/16/2007 2:03:42 PM

I may even be a jewtroll

1/16/2007 2:17:53 PM