CalliPHISH All American 10883 Posts user info edit post |
I have an 03 saab and will be switching out the oem shocks for some koni FSD's... I have never played with the suspension before but I am not really worried about doing anything wrong.. my question is, what tools will be required to do it.. because I am VERY limited there.
Any suggestions on how to make the install easier?
Thanks guys..
1/15/2007 10:43:49 PM |
Jeepman All American 5882 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not super familiar w/ saabs but i'm guessing you'll need a spring compressor and basic hand tools, jacks and jack stands. that's all i needed for my gf's eclipse 1/15/2007 10:47:06 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
Pass it off to somebody who has a clue.
Car has struts, does it not? Means you will need a spring compressor. If you are a fucktard and have never done strut assemblies, you stand an above-average chance of killing yourself in the process. Seriously. 1/15/2007 10:48:22 PM |
underPSI tillerman 14085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Any suggestions on how to make the install easier?" |
yeah, pay somebody. seriously, it would save you a lot of headaches and it really isn't that expensive. in order for you to do it yourself, you'd have to rent a spring compressor and hope you know how to use it correctly. you already stated you are limited in the tools dept. do yourself a huge favor and pay somebody. btw, nice choice on the shocks.1/15/2007 10:48:43 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
it's not that hard, but probably not something you want to attempt by yourself without assistance if you've never had experience disassembling a strut.
[Edited on January 15, 2007 at 10:49 PM. Reason : zxappeal and underPSI already covered it...] 1/15/2007 10:48:48 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Car has struts, does it not? Means you will need a spring compressor. If you are a fucktard and have never done strut assemblies, you stand an above-average chance of killing yourself in the process. Seriously." |
no shit, i've done them for years with a proper wall mounted compressor and it still scares the shit out of me1/15/2007 10:53:32 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
i like using the cheap parts store manual ones, keeps things interesting, lol. 1/15/2007 10:55:19 PM |
CalliPHISH All American 10883 Posts user info edit post |
cool, made that easy.. thanks guys. I'll report back on my opinions of the FSD shocks. 1/15/2007 11:00:07 PM |
1in10^9 All American 7451 Posts user info edit post |
rent a spring compressor for free from autozone ($100 deposit that you get back), get some basic tools and you are good to go with few DIY specific to saab. 1/15/2007 11:03:03 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i like using the cheap parts store manual ones, keeps things interesting, lol." |
Hell, man, I've got the $45 slightly-better-than-the-cheapest-shit manual ones, and I take my sweet time setting them up exactly like I want them. And then I carefully compress the springs.
A wall-mounted one is light years better, but some of us don't shit in cotton quite that high.1/15/2007 11:04:38 PM |
e30ncsu Suspended 1879 Posts user info edit post |
just rent a spring compressor, chain the spring to something, borrow a helmet, and have at it 1/15/2007 11:06:15 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
^^yeah, jokes aside mine have scared me pretty good before. 1/15/2007 11:08:46 PM |
CalliPHISH All American 10883 Posts user info edit post |
I have some pretty specific directions for installing the oem shocks but I honestly was ignorant to the compresor and you guys made that sound like a real bitch so I might just print these out for the saab tech who recently opened his own indy shop...
Here are the directions if any of you just wanted to look over them:
http://www.genuinesaab.com/psi/files/SS%20Sports%20Chassis.pdf 1/15/2007 11:08:47 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
it can be a bitch and dangerous if you've never done it.
like i said, it's not that hard of a job once you've done it. i would reccomend just finding someone with the experience to give you a hand so you can learn. there's a few peope on here that would probably help you out for a few bucks.
[Edited on January 15, 2007 at 11:19 PM. Reason : .] 1/15/2007 11:18:31 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
I was doing a Jetta about 8 years ago. Had already replaced the strut on the passenger side.
I was fixing to do the driver's side...busy running my mouth, not paying a damn bit of attention. I put my impact gun on the nut and let 'er go...WITH NO SPRING COMPRESSOR.
Good thing I wasn't hunched over that bastard, because that spring flew up and smacked the shit outta the roof of the shop. About 16 feet up. 1/16/2007 12:01:51 AM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
lol. i shot an eibach camaro spring across the university house parking lot a few years ago.
[Edited on January 16, 2007 at 12:12 AM. Reason : .] 1/16/2007 12:11:46 AM |
fleetwud AmbitiousButRubbish 49741 Posts user info edit post |
I'm finding it hard enough to change the shocks on a '94 Rockhopper, sorry d00d 1/16/2007 1:01:15 AM |
cornbread All American 2809 Posts user info edit post |
You'll never learn if you never do it. Just be cautious and remember the spring could release all that energy on your face, so never stand over it.
I guess I'm a cheap bastard who makes my specialty tools. I made my spring compressors with 1/2" threaded rod, pipe, angle iron, u-bolts, and a few nuts and a couple welds. The threaded rod got a little curvature to it now but it still works great. Also when I get it compressed I like to use nylon straps around the spring for safety. 1/16/2007 5:36:32 AM |
JIP2587 All American 596 Posts user info edit post |
Not to get too off topic, but my dad just put Koni FSD's on his 99 328i. Small improvement in handling on the twisty's. Does make the big bumps in the road seem bigger. Small bumps remain about the same. If you're looking for a ride that seems a bit more sporting, they seem to be a good way to go. 1/16/2007 6:15:08 AM |
scrager All American 9481 Posts user info edit post |
i helped a buddy do a 325 BMW with the rentable spring compressors. It wasn't too difficult. Just take your time, pay attention, and make sure those spring compressors have a good hold on the coils so they don't slip off. 1/16/2007 8:08:30 AM |
CalliPHISH All American 10883 Posts user info edit post |
4.5 hours quoted to install the koni shocks..... does this sound about right? This will obviosly be the front and rear... oem springs.
This is from the master tech from David Oneal Saab who opened his own indy shop.. said total would be $380. Does this sound about right?
I really didnt expect that much and I didnt expect that much time required.
Hmmm... I have step by step instructions... what would you guys charge to help me install these on my SS? I guess just shoot me a PM if you are serious about it... I would really appreciate it because thats too much and I would really just like the experience and knowledge of doing it on my own (well.. sorta). 1/18/2007 3:56:46 PM |
underPSI tillerman 14085 Posts user info edit post |
i think that price is a little steep just for shock installation but i've never done a saab before so maybe there's more to it. 1/19/2007 8:54:48 AM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
I did my springs myself on my Subaru (I'm thinking Saab's platform is similar to Subaru's, but that's just a wild guess).
All it takes is:
- a print out of "good" detailed step-by-step instructions - a couple of tools from Sears/Autoparts store - rented spring compressors from Autozone - a lot of sweat - a few of these -> - and about 6.5 hours of labor
If you feel mechanically inclined enough to do it, then go for it.
Edit: Just looked the link to the manual you posted... your front strut setup is exactly like my wrx setup. The rear looks different.
[Edited on January 19, 2007 at 10:17 AM. Reason : manual] 1/19/2007 10:08:06 AM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
european performance quoted me $540 to install the ground control street kit (konis w/ eibach springs) on my car. but that included alignment. 1/19/2007 11:45:52 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
The first time I swapped out my shocks it took me 12 hrs, man that sucked
Next time I did it (swapped springs) it only took me 5 hrs, using basica tools and manual spring compressor.
$380 doesn't sound far off to me 1/19/2007 1:30:44 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
IF you plan on doing this sort of thing regularly then go for it, if not then take it to someone else. 1/19/2007 3:32:19 PM |
Seotaji All American 34244 Posts user info edit post |
$380 sounds fine.
i was quoted a lot more than that for my car. i did it with the help of friends in the dead of winter though.
opportunity cost was not worth it in my case b/c of some unforeseen problems that developed.
if the mechanic breaks anything, it's on his dime. if you do, well you know... 1/20/2007 10:07:45 AM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Also when I get it compressed I like to use nylon straps around the spring for safety." |
good idea. i use a small ratchet strap whenever i'm unlazy enough.
doesn't sound like a bad price. especially with a saab tech doing the work (not that dealer techs are always any better).1/20/2007 10:53:30 PM |
tripleD4u All American 6247 Posts user info edit post |
IGOR? 1/21/2007 12:01:48 AM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
lol, i was going to say something about that but decided to be nice. 1/21/2007 1:02:34 AM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
where that fool at? paging igor 1/21/2007 1:40:41 AM |
jsmcconn All American 1220 Posts user info edit post |
never done it but i have no fear of trying...long as ur not handicapped its hard to fuckup with the right stuff 1/21/2007 1:55:03 AM |