Anyone have this class?

1/15/2007 11:36:15 PM

nope, you're the only one

1/15/2007 11:55:33 PM

i had him few semesters ago

he was an ok teacher

his derivations were pretty pointless

fortunately he made your final exam grade your final average if your the final exam grade was better than your average coming into the test

[Edited on January 16, 2007 at 12:32 AM. Reason : ...]

1/16/2007 12:32:33 AM

we didnt really do much the first day and he slammed us with some fairly hard homework questions.

1/16/2007 1:46:45 AM

yeah that's normal . . . nothing you do in class really helps with the HW

1/16/2007 1:17:24 PM

update, one question didnt have enough information and the other had the wrong answer....way to make me waste so much time when i had the answer right.

1/16/2007 3:23:25 PM

cool blog. Will read again.

[Edited on January 16, 2007 at 5:02 PM. Reason : keep us posted, thx]

1/16/2007 5:02:05 PM

are they using the text that is just a bunch of papers 3 hole punched with no bindings for this class? I know I had to use it last semester... really annoying

1/16/2007 10:46:07 PM

it is a new edition......but as bad. Some of the pictures are just text for what is supposed to be there. Thanks for the smart ass remarks, it was valid to ask to see if anyone was experiencing the same problem.

1/16/2007 11:12:42 PM

I really did not enjoy his teaching style at all. He's a really smart guy and it shows, but I really had no idea what was going on in there most of the time. That being said I made it past the C-wall.

1/17/2007 10:34:32 AM

It will get better. I had him for dynamics and controls when I was a junior and I couldn't stand his teaching style at first. After hanging in there for a few weeks though, I got kind of used to it and he turned out to be a really good professor. He is easily one of the smartest people that I have ever met in my entire life.

1/17/2007 2:20:31 PM

If you're an AERO major drop out now..... but seriously, Silverburg is HARDLY the worst prof in that program and Dynamics is nowhere near the hardest class. It's one thing if you find yourself not going to class and pulling a C, but if you're no shit working your ass off and still getting C's get out of aero, it's not worth your GPA. If you hang on through Dynamics you'll bomb Solids (depending on the curve) and prolly D&C depending on who instructs it. (Dr. G or Dr. Hall)


As far as the text... did Silverburg write it??? b/c I know he was working on a dynamics book afew (3) years ago

[Edited on January 18, 2007 at 3:06 PM. Reason : .]

1/18/2007 3:05:14 PM

Yes he wrote it, I am going Mechanical.......so far, but heard aero was by far the hardest major ( I know people may disagree, "but thats the word on the street.")

Today a student asked if we could expect the errors and not enough information on the problems and he said maybe, i dont know......glad to know I will be beating my brains out some more thinking theres no way to do the problem.

1/18/2007 10:14:32 PM

I heard nuclear and biomedical engineering were the hardest

1/18/2007 10:21:54 PM

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"D&C depending on who instructs it. (Dr. G or Dr. Hall)"

Dr. Hall teaches D&C??? I couldn't imagine having him for that class jeez. Dr. G. is awesome though. You guys should be happy that Dr. Davoodi isn't around anymore.

[Edited on January 18, 2007 at 10:40 PM. Reason : ]

1/18/2007 10:39:47 PM

Dr. G is not a good teacher. He dumbs down the material way too much and goes through the material too slow. I made an A+ in his class and had to basically learn everything for the first time in grad school.

Silverburg should also spend more time on classical control techniques, but I enjoyed his class.

1/19/2007 1:09:32 AM

Wraith... When I took D&C <hiking up pants> Dr. Hall taught it... yea... I got a D-, and I was DAMN proud of that D-

1/26/2007 6:35:58 PM

haha Davoodi was awful; he brought a new definition to the word "awful". i definitely didn't miss that guy after he left.

1/26/2007 6:42:35 PM

I wish there was a way I could get an understanding of what other engineering majors go through; threads like this make me wonder how life might have been if I'd chosen ME/AE, EE, or NE. Probably the same when it comes to endless homework assignments and minimal sleep, but in terms of material learned. Is PY 205 a good precursor to the ME/AE curriculum?

1/27/2007 12:54:39 AM

Well all I can say is that you think things are going pretty good in AE. Up until your junior year, that is when the shit hits the fan. You go from dynamics, solid mechanics, and intro to flight... all relatively easy classes to aerodynamics I, structures I, dynamics & controls (as mentioned above), and experimental aerodynamics. That is the point at which you're gonna say "fuck. this shit is hard". In terms of PY205, that prepares you for AE about as much as addition and subtraction prepares you for calculus.

1/27/2007 9:31:18 AM

^ yea that is a pretty good analogy..the same goes for ME

[Edited on January 27, 2007 at 2:43 PM. Reason : i still wonder why ME and AE aren't two different majors..MAE my ass.]

1/27/2007 2:41:27 PM

they are in the same department because the concepts for both majors are the same

sorta how electrical and computer are together

1/27/2007 2:48:37 PM

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"Up until your junior year, that is when the shit hits the fan. "

This isn't just AE, or ME....it's engineering in general

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"heard aero was by far the hardest major ( I know people may disagree, "but thats the word on the street.")"

AE's "hard" because nobody likes the instructors...

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"I heard nuclear and biomedical engineering were the hardest"

nuclear's probably at the top

biomed's probably between the middle and the top

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"threads like this make me wonder how life might have been if I'd chosen ME/AE, EE, or NE."

ultimately it all depends on what you want to do...if you chose your major by spinning a wheel, then you have bigger problems

you'll reap more opportunities being a ChemE

plus, ChemE hits all the high points of the ME curriculum without doing all the extra bullshit they do

and you'll have the added benefit of knowing you're a ChemE instead of some measly ME...generally people become MEs because they like to tinker with their cars and they want to be engineers...the people that don't tinker with their cars but want to be engineers do Industrial and Civil

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"i still wonder why ME and AE aren't two different majors..MAE my ass"

you can't understand the difference between a department and a major? how can you not know that...especially if you're in the department???

1/27/2007 5:25:26 PM

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"you'll reap more opportunities being a ChemE plus, ChemE hits all the high points of the ME curriculum without doing all the extra bullshit they do and you'll have the added benefit of knowing you're a ChemE instead of some measly ME...generally people become MEs because they like to tinker with their cars and they want to be engineers...the people that don't tinker with their cars but want to be engineers do Industrial and Civil"

How do you figure that you will reap more opportunities being a CHE? Sure you are likely to have a slightly higher starting salary, but beyond that it is pretty much up to the person.

I wouldn't say all the high points, but they do have stuff in common. The Fluid and thermal science branch of the ME dept goes pretty well with CHE and if that is what you wanted to do, it might be better to go the CHE route. But there are a lot of ME's in industry that do that same kind of work. ME is more broad and is like a conglomeration of CHE, CE, MSE and also does vibration / machinery design type things.

1/27/2007 6:05:37 PM

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"ultimately it all depends on what you want to do...if you chose your major by spinning a wheel, then you have bigger problems"

I know exactly what I want to do with my degree in chemical engineering, and I did my research before choosing CHE; no wheel-spinning necessary. I like my major, but it is possible to have an interest in the other fields of engineering. Transport phenomena and thermodynamics are all well and good, but I'm also interested in what goes on in an upper-level electromagnetics or mechanical dynamics course.

1/28/2007 2:26:08 AM

I would argue that you're better off as a Chem E. In Aero at least it's hard to do much with a BS. But I understand that alot of Chem E's can get decent jobs right out of college with a BS.

I would also argue that aero is the hardest... simply based on the fact that IT has the highest attrition rate at the university.

1/28/2007 10:19:18 PM

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"How do you figure that you will reap more opportunities being a CHE?"

Well, for one, there are less ChemEs than there are MEs and therefore less competition

and if you look at the number of MEs...like I said before its a bunch of people who play with their cars and think that qualifies them to become an engineer, some come over as AE-rejects/quitters (which is probably why the two share a department), and then you have the people who just do it b/c their parents are MEs and they haven't a flippin clue about whatelse to do with their life (but this is true for all majors). Sure, there's the people that know exactly what they want to do with their ME degree, and they'll rise to top and get what they want out of it...but then you're left with everyone else trying to figure out what to do with themselves.

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"ME is more broad and is like a conglomeration of CHE, CE, MSE and also does vibration / machinery design type things."

Broad isn't always good

and at the same time, ChemE and MSE, to an extent, are already broad enough

1/28/2007 11:04:52 PM