despite our grave, horrible, unbelievable front office decision error made Nov, 2006. Firing coach Chuck Amato was the biggest mistake in ncsu football history. Not only will Amato be replaced, but the entire staff goes along people!! Yes, this includes people/coaches who have been here since the begining and 'braved the storm' for YEARS. The face of recruiting territories will change (for the worse). In other words', we basically will acquire the identity, the filthy face-mask that BC left in the dust.

This Tom O'brien homedoggy comes from BC, a school not known for football whatsoever. This is a University that got shunned this season from bowl organizations because of their inability to...get this...sell tickets!?!? Despite their pretty little record they still lacked fan support to get invited to a "good bowl game". Something dosn't add up here.

My claim is that we will win less games now becaue of him. Simple as that.

Support: He's new to the area.
Support: His ideology/style will not make a good match with fan base/school
a) Will cause recruits to deviate




We traded the southern florida "Speed" resources for the north eastern "Hog Molly". This was the grave error. That's like trading diamonds for Iron Ore!?!? What in the dad-gom heezy dude? Now if we can find some way to get that route back, we might be in good business. If not we're gonna have a team full of slow big un-athletic guys who will flood our stadium with poor football.


Support: Replaced entire staff. No black coaches.
a) Will cause recruits to deviate

Refutation

Yeah yea, he's like .625% over a ten year period at BC (weak conf before acc joint). 7 dad-gom wins per year, 6 consecutive bowl wins. I'm not amused.

Summation

I'm ashamed of you all. Men mostly, if there are any female posters here. Where is your integrity? You peeps remind me of female lions in this situation. When a new alpha-male takes over the pack, the female lions put up resistance in the begining. Then after a day or so, they lay down and be submissive and subservient. Amato would have made a rebound this year. He would continue to bring in "Top Noch" talent. Who has O'brien developed over his 10 year coaching period? What NFL prospects other than Kiwu? Wow, we are in trouble.


[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 6:34 PM. Reason : /]

1/17/2007 6:30:37 PM

THE THREAD

1/17/2007 6:32:09 PM

Mr. Earl, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this message board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 6:34 PM. Reason : ]

1/17/2007 6:32:40 PM

This Tom O'brien homedoggy is bad.....What in the dad-gom heezy were we thinking ,dude?







[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 6:37 PM. Reason : no]

1/17/2007 6:34:59 PM

Chuck Amato was .569% in 6 years. Defeating FSU a number of times. Sending a plethora of players to the NFL. In a conf that's arguably one of the toughest in the nation.That's the big picure here. If you're gonna chat with the E-Man, you need to bring facts to the table. Fact.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 6:38 PM. Reason : E-man. Over an Out.]

1/17/2007 6:37:16 PM

I read sports talk, but rarely post

but goddamn Earl, this has to be the most retarded thing I've ever read from you. You should be resuspended for even bringing this up in such a manner.

WHAT GOOD IS IT GOING TO DO TO KEEP BRINGING UP AMATO LIKE HE IS A GOD? The fact of the matter is that he could not do the job that he was being paid to do. In the real world, people get fired when that happens.

1/17/2007 6:38:04 PM

^^ ha ha

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 6:38 PM. Reason : ^]

1/17/2007 6:38:05 PM

FACT

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 6:38 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2007 6:38:08 PM

Cause NFL talent always equals college wins. Who cares about the nfl as long as we can win consistantly.

1/17/2007 6:39:27 PM

Quote :

"You should be resuspended for even bringing this up in such a manner. "

So I should be re-suspended for talking about our head coach decision?!?! I was wrongfully suspended in the FIRST place, and I never found out the dad-gom reason why!

This thread is not even about Amato being fired. It's more of a prediction of what will happen the 07' season.


[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 6:42 PM. Reason : /]

1/17/2007 6:39:47 PM

it's because you write dad-gom

1/17/2007 6:40:40 PM

DONT FORGET HOMEDOGGY

1/17/2007 6:41:29 PM

will you people STOP replying to this idiots threads. Ignore the dumbass and maybe he'll go away.

1/17/2007 6:42:39 PM

^You talk junk because you have decent couter-arguments to my claims. Expected of you.

1/17/2007 6:43:55 PM

fact

1/17/2007 6:45:33 PM

1/17/2007 6:46:22 PM

I want you guys to know something. Your trolling isn't hurting me! It just shows that you can't have a rational debate on these issues. Fact. I have a right to post here just like anyone of you. Remember that.

You are the trolls! Not me. I talk about issues and present facts. You're just mad because the facts aren't on your side.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 6:49 PM. Reason : /]

1/17/2007 6:47:34 PM

Quote :

"Mr. Earl, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this message board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

chlorophyll?!? more like borophyll

1/17/2007 6:48:23 PM

ok, so youre telling me that when a coach comes from a different place(boston in our case), he keeps recruiting the same place? that doesnt make any sense...hes gonna recruit the best prospects he can find in this region, people are fast beyond florida(i dont know what florida has that makes people faster than anyone else), speed doesnt always win, you are an idiot, and since when does south carolina make contact with florida?!

1/17/2007 6:50:29 PM

Everyone in this thread has called Earl a dumbass in one way or another... yet not one of you has offered a counter-point. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with him but if he's so stupid it should be easy for you to refute his argument.

1/17/2007 6:50:36 PM

I love this shit. This is too funny.

1/17/2007 6:52:02 PM

wow Earl, you rule!






























































































the shitter!

1/17/2007 6:52:44 PM

here's your counterpoint you fucking redneck, chuck amato went 3-9 last year and lost to North Carolina and would have lost to Duke.

1/17/2007 6:58:35 PM

Quote :

" speed doesnt always win, you are an idiot, and since when does south carolina make contact with florida?! "

What are you talking about here with SC and Florida? And if speed dosn't win, why don't you try telling Florida that! You build great teams around speed and athleticism. BC lost big games because they simply couldn't keep up with certain teams speed (UM).

And as far as recruiting, most coaches regardless of their territory still like to recruit at their 'old ponds' because they are familiar with the territory. ex; Chuck Amato recruited 75% of his players from S. Florida.


[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 7:05 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2007 7:01:42 PM

Quote :

"Yes, this includes people/coaches who have been here since the begining and 'braved the storm' for YEARS"

since 1892!!!?????

1/17/2007 7:04:42 PM

Quote :

"I don't want to ignite beef with you."

1/17/2007 7:06:15 PM

id be happy if we got players from our own state first

he has more leniancy recruiting here at state rather than at a stricter boston college, im sure he will look all around, and i highly doubt people in the northeast are all slower than the holy grail that is florida...penn state has a bunch of speedy players on their team and i dont think they have one player from florida on their team

what does not having black coaches have to do with anything?

how do any of your "support" claims cause recruits to deviate? do you even know his style of football?

1/17/2007 7:07:15 PM

HAHAAHAHHA what the fuck is a "Hog Molly"?

okay heres the deal. Me personally, I kinda agree with ya earl. I don't know if this Tom cat can

keep up the intensity and excitement that ncsu is known for. I don't think this guy knows anything

about fball tradition, and how we like to play it in da south. Those BC games were boring as hell,

and not many players were the NFL type. Overall, they looked pretty mediocre to me.

1/17/2007 7:10:28 PM

Quote :

"HAHAAHAHHA what the fuck is a "Hog Molly"?"

you are joking right?

1/17/2007 7:15:03 PM

the nfl does not equal college football...honestly if we could have a great team but never put people in the nfl, oh well, wouldnt bother me...and who cares what intensity we had/have here, it obviously did us a whole lot of good this past season....

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 7:15 PM. Reason : ff]

1/17/2007 7:15:13 PM

Oooh Hog Molly = Lard ass lineman. I'm trippin out. Good point about the % issue. I wonder if

Amato had 10 years what would his be? Having FSU and other tough opponents in your conf and

still making it to decent bowl games isn't bad guys!!

1/17/2007 7:23:15 PM

having a 3-9 record when the whole conference is down isnt that great either

1/17/2007 7:28:10 PM

Quote :

"what does not having black coaches have to do with anything?"

There are alot of Black players that want to atleast have black coaches on the staff. Like Portee for example, he was someone that the players could "relate" to. These are the words of a player on the team. Besides, it's always a plus to have a diverse coaching staff.

Recruits deviate for numerous reasons. Do you even understand recruiting? If a certain coach leaves, then certain players will leave also. There were coaches on the staff, not just Amato, whom players liked. Portee brought in alot of talent to play RB (Koren Robinson, before he transitioned into WR). He developed Ray Robinson, TA and a ton of others. He's gone now.

In the last 10 years, what dominate player has BC attained? Let me guess, Kiwu...

People want to be stars. They want to go to a school where they can develope and stand out. They want to play on the next level, not just win bowl games.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 7:32 PM. Reason : /]

1/17/2007 7:29:50 PM

so, we had 1 really good year with amato and his staff here...its not breaking my heart the rest of the coaching staff left.

id rather TOB have his own staff or people he wants here so he can coach his way, cause hes proven he can win in the crap hole of boston college

1/17/2007 7:32:27 PM

Early boy, you never addressed my counterpoint .. you gotta back your shit up

by the way Portee developed TA into a fumbing MACHINE!

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 7:34 PM. Reason : ta]

1/17/2007 7:32:50 PM

Quote :

"here's your counterpoint you fucking redneck, chuck amato went 3-9 last year and lost to North Carolina and would have lost to Duke."

First off, I'm not a redneck so don't dare disrespect me dog doggy. I have some respect for you, so you need to have some for me or else the boat don't float! We went 3-9 last year because Evans was our Qb. He still has a .569% , even with the bad decision to play Evans as our Qb. I victored your counterpoint. Next question.

1/17/2007 7:37:39 PM

FL PIPELINE SEVERED!

1/17/2007 7:46:34 PM

SPEED

1/17/2007 8:16:08 PM

HOOOOOOG MOOOOLLLYYYY!!!!!!!!

1/17/2007 8:24:47 PM

1/17/2007 8:37:25 PM

1/17/2007 8:42:00 PM

I especially like the part where South Carolina borders Florida.

1/17/2007 8:47:16 PM

Quote :

"Mr. Earl, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this message board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. "

1/17/2007 8:53:22 PM

lol, notice how the florida pipeline is going to winston-salem in this pic

1/17/2007 8:58:21 PM

Why have I only read 1 refutal? Shit talking contest seems to be the thing around here.

Im not really worried for ncsu, b/c ultimately I don't care about football that much anymore.

1/17/2007 9:00:35 PM

ibtl

1/17/2007 9:04:03 PM

Quote :

"Chuck Amato was .569% in 6 years."

how many games under .500 was he withouth Rivers? 4?

1/17/2007 9:15:45 PM

This thread is...wow, That's as far as I can dignify it.

1/17/2007 9:18:23 PM

Earl, I'm going to let you in on a piece of information.

Nobody seriously responds to your posts because you brush every argument people throw at you as either "anti-state" or "irrelevant" or something, and the ones you can't do that to you just ignore, even when people bring them up again and again.

Then you make some terribly misconstrued information, or something that is completely made up, and put FACT. after it, like adding that somehow makes your shitty argument into a good one.

So now all we do is post flames and pictures of Carl with his hand on his forehead.

1/17/2007 9:31:05 PM

Quote :

"by the way Portee developed TA into a fumbing MACHINE!"

ta pissed away his career not the coaching staff. as has been stated by many here on this site . recruiting TA was the right call.

1/17/2007 9:36:18 PM