looks like she has had a face lift also

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/20/clinton.announcement/index.html

1/20/2007 11:15:45 AM

Hillary is officially gonna lose

1/20/2007 11:19:32 AM

*yawn*

1/20/2007 11:20:11 AM

shit...i'm going to vote for her. This country needs someone with balls.


Why does hillary clinton always wear turtle necks?

to hide her adams apple.

OOOOOOOOOOoooooo.

1/20/2007 11:51:22 AM

Edwards, Clinton and Obama... I hope the Dems come up with something better or they are going down in flames again. Kinda sad they can't see this for themselves

1/20/2007 12:12:50 PM

god damnit, she has no chance of winning. some people love her and some people absolutely hate her, this leaves little room for maneuvering

1/20/2007 12:12:52 PM

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"Edwards, Clinton and Obama... I hope the Dems come up with something better or they are going down in flames again."

1/20/2007 12:15:08 PM

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"Edwards, Clinton and Obama... I hope the Dems come up with something better or they are going down in flames again. Kinda sad they can't see this for themselves"

I think the Democrats are lucky as shit that Obama decided to run. He definitely has the greatest appeal to the American public, regardless of his name/skin color. He will be the next President on the United States. Mark it down.

1/20/2007 12:17:30 PM

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"Edwards, Clinton and Obama... I hope the Dems come up with something better or they are going down in flames again."

1/20/2007 12:18:44 PM

Obama would crush anyone currently in the republican pool in a heads-up election.

1/20/2007 12:55:24 PM

a black man wont win in america...................................yet

1/20/2007 12:55:46 PM

^

1/20/2007 1:01:55 PM

Hillary is about to get served. I don't know any democrat or republican who will admit to wanting to vote for her. Obama could even beat her in NY.

1/20/2007 1:08:29 PM

i'd put money on a black man being assassinated if he were elected president with a white vice president

i'd also put money on a white man being assassinated if he were elected president with a black vice president

1/20/2007 1:09:41 PM

the liberal media has been sucking obamas dick since mid 2006

1/20/2007 1:28:06 PM

That's because it's so big -- bigger than Hillary's

[Edited on January 20, 2007 at 1:33 PM. Reason : The good part about Obama running is that we'll get to see how racist the south is.]

1/20/2007 1:31:53 PM

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"Official candidates These are the people who have officially decided to run for office by filing the necessary papers with the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) to run for President. Official candidates Senator Christopher Dodd Christopher Dodd, was born May 27, 1944 in Connecticut and is a U.S. Senator from that state. Dodd was reported to be a likely contender for the Democratic Vice President slot on John Kerry's ticket in 2004. He is the first Senator from Connecticut to serve five consecutive terms. In May 2006, Dodd said he has "decided to do all the things that are necessary to prepare to seek the presidency in 2008", including hiring staff, raising money and traveling around the country in the next few months to enlist support.[1] U.S. Senator from Connecticut: 1981 - Present Representative from the 2nd District of Connecticut: 1975 - 1981 John Edwards, former Senator John Edwards, born June 10, 1953 in South Carolina, former U.S. Senator from North Carolina and 2004 Democratic vice-presidential nominee. As a Presidential candidate, Edwards was famed for his populist message in his "Two Americas" Speech and also for his optimistic, positive attitude. This was evidenced by his refusal to attack his opponents. In the primaries, Sen. Edwards had strong come-from-behind showings in the crucial states of Iowa, Oklahoma, Virginia, Tennessee, Wisconsin, and Georgia. He also won the North Carolina caucus and the South Carolina primary. Edwards has kept his Federal Leadership PAC, the One America Committee [3], active to help Democrats across the nation win elections in the future. On February 5, 2005, Edwards spoke at the New Hampshire Democratic Party's fundraising dinner. On August 18, 2005, Edwards traveled to Waterloo, Iowa to deliver an address to the Iowa AFL-CIO, a potential key supporter in the Iowa caucus. On December 16, 2006, Democratic officials reported that Edwards has expressed his intention to run in 2008. [2] On December 26, 2006, Edwards announced his candidacy after a technical glitch launched his campaign website a day early. U.S. Senator from North Carolina: 1999 - 2005 Mike Gravel, former Senator Mike Gravel, born May 13, 1930, in Springfield, Massachusetts. U.S. Senator from Alaska from 1969 to 1981 and an active candidate for Vice President in 1972. He was notable for advocating a guaranteed annual income, which he termed a "citizen's wage," of $5,000 per person, irrespective of whether the person worked. On April 13, 2006, Gravel announced his candidacy for the Democratic nomination. His policy announcements to date include support for direct democracy, FairTax and withdrawal from Iraq. His is considered a very longshot candidacy since former Sen. Gravel will be 78 years old at the time of the general election and will have been out of federal politics for almost three decades at the time of the election. Interestingly, a Zogby poll taken on November 3, 2006 taken on candidate biographies and accomplishments of potential Democratic candidates had Gravel in second place, tied with John Kerry and slightly behind Hillary Clinton. [4] Mike Gravel filed with the FEC in April according to various news sources.[3] [4] The FEC's site has listed his reports since July.[5] U.S. Senator from Alaska: 1969–1981 Alaska State Representative: 1962-1966 (Speaker: 1965-1966) Representative Dennis Kucinich Dennis Kucinich, born October 8, 1946, Ohio Congressman and 2004 Democratic primary candidate. Kucinich got the second highest number of votes at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Kucinich threw his support behind Kerry after losing the nomination, although a sizable number of Kucinich's delegates refused to follow suit. Dennis Kucinich is known for his opposition to the war in Iraq and the Patriot Act. He favors creating a Department of Peace. Kucinich is currently campaigning to end the war in Iraq by trying to cut off funding, and he opposes going to war in Iran. Kucinich has received many awards over his career praising his courage and his work for the peace movement. He is also a favorite among youth activists on the left. On December 12, 2006, Kucinich announced his candidacy at an event at Cleveland's City Hall.[6] Representative from the 10th District of Ohio: 1997 - Present Mayor of Cleveland: 1978-1979 Tom Vilsack, former Governor of Iowa Tom Vilsack, born December 13, 1950, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, former Governor of Iowa, Chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council. Vilsack will be succeeded as governor by Iowa Secretary of State Chet Culver (D). Many suspected Vilsack was high on the list of potential running mates for John Kerry in the 2004 Presidential Election. He has recently been increasing his national exposure.[7][8] In 2005, Vilsack established Heartland PAC,[9]a political action committee aimed at electing Democratic Governors and other statewide candidates. Unlike the PACs of potential candidates, Heartland PAC is not a federal PAC and can not contribute to federal candidates. On November 9, 2006, Vilsack announced that he would be filing papers with the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) to run for President.[10] Governor of Iowa: 1999–2007 "

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"Announced candidates These are people who have said that they will run for the Democratic nomination for President, but have not yet filed the necessary papers with the FEC. Announced candidates Senator Joe Biden Joe Biden, born November 20, 1942 in Scranton, Pennsylvania, U.S. Senator from Delaware and 1988 Democratic primary candidate. Biden first hinted that he might run in a December 8, 2004 radio interview with host Don Imus, saying: "I'm going to proceed as if I'm going to run." Biden has repeatedly stated his intention to run, and did so as early as 21 March 2006. Biden's Federal Leadership PAC is "Unite Our States", which tracks Biden's public appearances and policy positions. On 7 January 2007 when asked by Tim Russert on Meet the Press "Are you running for President?" he responded, "I am running for President." He also said he plans to create an exploratory committee by the end of the month. [11][12][13] Senator from Delaware: 1973 - Present [edit] Potential notable candidates with exploratory committees These people have formed exploratory committes to run for President. Candidates with exploratory committees Senator Barack Obama Barack Obama, born August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, U.S. Senator from Illinois. A "draft Obama" movement began with his well-received keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Neil Young mentioned him as a potential President in his song "Looking for a Leader". In September 2006, Obama's Senate primary opponent Daniel Hynes, in an open letter published in the Chicago Sun-Times, urged Democrats to draft Obama for the 2008 Presidential race.[14] Also in September, Obama was the featured speaker at Iowa Senator Tom Harkin's annual steak fry, a political event favored by presidential hopefuls in the lead-up to the Iowa caucus. He was endorsed by talk show host Rachel Ray in 2006.[15] Most recently, TIME Magazine ran a cover story by Joe Klein with the headline "Why Barack Obama Could Be the Next President."[16]. On October 22, 2006, he acknowledged he was considering a run for president, backing off previous statements to the contrary. He said he would make a decision after the November 7 mid-term elections.[17] On a November 7 interview on CNN, Obama said he was likely to go back and reflect, talk with his wife, and not make a decision until January, 2007. Various recent opinion polls have seen Obama's support rising, with him trailing only Hillary Clinton in several polls. He says he will make a final determination in January after a two week vacation in Hawaii.[18] On January 14, 2007, the Chicago Tribune reported that Obama has begun assembling his team for a 2008 presidential campaign to be headquartered in Chicago, Il. [19] On January 16, 2007 CNN reported that sources "who work for Senator Obama" told reporters that Obama will be announcing the formation of a presidential exploratory committee before January 20, and that he could make his first campaign visit to Iowa on the weekend of January 20. [20] Later that day, Obama announced on his web site that he would file papers to create an exploratory committee that day, with a final decision to come February 10. [5][6] Senator from Illinois: 2005 - Present "

1/20/2007 2:22:18 PM

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"Potential notable candidates (without exploratory committees) Potential candidates General Wesley Clark (Ret.) Wesley Clark, born December 23, 1944 in Illinois, retired United States Army four-star general and former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO. He graduated first in his class from West Point. Clark is traveling widely through his Federal Leadership PAC WesPAC [7], and is a commentator on FOX News, while grassroots campaigns for Clark have become active on the internet.[21] Clark was a 2004 Presidential candidate as well, narrowly winning the Oklahoma primary. During a January 17, 2007 speech given to a local UAW group in Alabama and posted on YouTube, Clark stated "when I run, I'll be the national security candidate." [8] Hillary Rodham Clinton, born October 26, 1947 in Illinois, U.S. Senator from New York and former First Lady of the United States. While frequently asked by media interviewers about her plans for 2008, she has remained noncommital, saying she'd be focusing on her work for her 2006 Senate re-election campaign. In spite of this, polling organizations generally include her on polls involving likely candidates. She has delivered several speeches, including one on abortion, which analysts say are intended to reach out to moderates. She has also been a consistent, vocal supporter of America's participation in the Iraq war, perhaps as part of an effort to shake perceptions of being overly liberal. She has also been holding fundraising meetings, including meeting with women from Massachusetts, a key constituency of potential rival and 2004 nominee John Kerry.(a) However, these activities are consistent with the lead up to a campaign for re-election to her Senate seat in 2006. Many Republicans appear to desire Hillary Clinton's candidacy for President, presumably believing her to be a polarizing figure and thus easy to defeat. Her Federal Leadership PAC is HILLPAC.[22] Senator from New York: 2001 - Present Al Gore, former Vice President of the United States Al Gore, former U.S. Vice President from Tennessee, and the 2000 Democratic nominee. Gore and his family have commented upon whether or not Gore would participate as a candidate in the 2008 presidential election. In the 12 December 2006 article, "Gore chases Oscar nod, possible 2008 bid," the Associated Press quoted Gore as stating, "'I am not planning to run for president again,' Gore said last week, arguing that his focus is raising public awareness about global warming and its dire effects. Then, he added: 'I haven't completely ruled it out.'" [23] His son, Albert Gore III, followed with a comment in the 14 December 2006 article "Albert Gore: Dad's Doing Well, Not Running in 2008":"I know that [my father] has no plans to run in 2008 [...] Well, I guess I have to add his addendum. I think the way he always says it is, 'I don't see any circumstances under which I would run for president."[24] In a 29 December 2006 article, the Associated Press commented that: "The potential candidate best positioned to shake up the top tier is former Vice President Al Gore, whose movie about global warming and longtime opposition to the Iraq war give him a natural platform to enter the race, Democratic strategists said. Gore has said he has no interest in running for president in 2008, but he has been careful not to completely rule out a bid."[25] He starred in the 2006 documentary An Inconvenient Truth which explores the scientific evidence supporting anthropogenic climate changes. In addition, after the 2000 elections, Gore was an early critic of the Iraq War, and much of the Bush administration's foreign policy. After Hurricane Katrina, Gore personally chartered two private airplanes to assist 270 Katrina evacuees stuck in a hospital, with four feet of water surrounding it and no food or water and offered to pay for both, although his friend Larry Flax of California Pizza Kitchen offered to pay for one of the flights after hearing about Gore's actions. While Gore criticized the slow response of the Bush administration during Katrina, he refused to make a public statement about the "mercy missions," but his personal physician stated "Gore told me he wanted to do this because like all of us he wanted to seize the opportunity to do what one guy can do, given the assets that he has." [9] As of mid-2006, Gore has seen a dramatic increase of support amongst the grassroots Democratic constituency, who have stated a high level of support for a possible Gore candidacy in recent polls taken by Daily Kos, with Gore leading all other possible 2008 Democratic nominees with 35% of respondents supporting him, and a surprisingly high number of respondents (68%), preferred Gore as the 2008 Democratic nominee in an AlterNet poll. Vice-President of the United States: 1993 - 2001 Senator from Tennessee: 1985 - 1993 Representative from the 6th District of Tennessee: 1983 - 1985 Representative from the 4th District of Tennessee: 1977 - 1983 Senator John Kerry John Kerry, born December 11, 1943 in Denver, Colorado, U.S. Senator from Massachusetts, and the unsuccessful 2004 Democratic presidential nominee. On March 1, 2005, Kerry created a new Federal Leadership PAC, Keeping America's Promise[10], which he plans to use to maintain national visibility and political viability.[26] Kerry has recruited several top staffers to run it including John Giesser, the No. 2 operative at the DNC in 2000 and 2004, and Jay Dunn, who served as DNC finance director, to manage its finances. Also involved are Jenny Backus and Leigh Garland who worked under Terry McAuliffe and long-time Kerry fundraisers Josh Warren and Jon Patsavos. "That’s a very, very high-powered team that he’s keeping in place. You don’t generally spend those kind of resources and put that effort in building the A team to run for another term in the U.S. Senate," said former DNC chairman Steve Grossman. [11] Dan Payne, a Democratic strategist, told the Washington Post that "This is the kind of thing he has to do" in order to run for President in 2008.[27] Through Keeping America's Promise, Kerry has raised $1.1 million in the first quarter of 2006 from 11,000 donors nationally. [12] Kerry told CNN, with respect to a run in 2008, "it's crazy to be thinking about it now" but went on to say that "I'll make my judgment when the time comes and I don't care what history says." [13] Kerry raised eyebrows when he made a strong statement as to how to lead in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina following Bush's address to the nation. [14] Kerry is buoyed by polls that show him beating George Bush by 10% if the 2004 election were held this year, as well as his ability to draw overflowing crowds while stumping for other Democrats in traditionally Republican strongholds such as Texas and South Carolina. However, there was a minor controversy on October 30, 2006 over a speech made by Kerry at Pasadena City College. Future implications of his comments are still unclear, however Kerry himself claimed the incident will have little bearing on 2008 and that he will make a decision in early 2007. [15] [16] [17] [18] Senator from Massachusetts: 1985 - Present Lieutenant Governor of Massachusetts: 1983-1985 Governor Bill Richardson Bill Richardson, born November 15, 1947 in California, Governor of New Mexico, former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Secretary of Energy and U.S. Representative. After reportedly informing party leaders in February 2005 of his intention to run for president, on December 7, 2006 Richardson said "I am running" during his response to a prospective question about the 2008 presidential election by Fox News, however he later retracted the decision and said he would make an official decision by January. He has recently stated that he intends to form an exploratory committee. [19][20]. A Draft Richardson movement is now active. [21] Governor of New Mexico: 2003 - Present United States Secretary of Energy: 1998 - 2001 United States Ambassador to the United Nations: 1997-1998 Representative from the 3rd District of New Mexico: 1983 - 1997 Reverend Al Sharpton Al Sharpton of New York, Pentecostal minister, civil rights activist, former candidate for mayor of New York and for the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senator from New York, and candidate for the 2004 nomination. When asked about 2008, he replied, "Don't get Hillary mad at me."[28] He was one of the first candidates to enter the 2004 race, but thus far he has said nothing more about 2008. His 2004 campaign was not a great success. He never got more than 10% of the vote in any state, although he did get 20% in the District of Columbia.[29] There are still unresolved campaign-finance issues left over from this campaign. According to a November 23 article in the New York Daily News, Sharpton said he is "considering" a presidential run in 2008, adding, "I'm waiting to see if someone raises the issues I want to see raised," said Sharpton, citing the Iraq war, civil rights and education.[22] "

1/20/2007 2:23:30 PM

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"Declined to seek nomination Potential candidates who decided against running Senator Evan Bayh Evan Bayh, was born December 26, 1955 in Indiana, former two-term Governor and currently a second-term U.S. Senator from that state. In February of 2005, Bayh renamed his Federal Leadership PAC the All America PAC[30] and hired a new veteran staff with experience on the 2004 campaigns of John Kerry and Wesley Clark for President and Tom Daschle for senate.[23] His new staff includes New Hampshire political operative Steve Bouchard, his deputy Chris Smith, longtime Democratic fundraiser Nancy Jacobson, and informal advisor Ronald Klain. Even though Bayh announced the formation of an exploratory bid for president on December 3, 2006, he announced on December 16, 2006 that he would not seek the Democratic nomination for President. [24] Senator from Indiana: 1999 - Present Governor of Indiana: 1989 - 1997 Indiana Secretary of State: 1987 - 1989 Tom Daschle, former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, born December 9, 1947 in South Dakota, former U.S. Senator from that state. He set up a new political action committee and planned a Jefferson-Jackson Day speech in the politically pivotal state of Iowa. Daschle has transferred $500,000 into the new Federal Leadership PAC, New Leadership for America.[25] In July 2005, Daschle said he was not planning a rematch against his successor John Thune in 2010 and he told the Sioux Falls Argus Leader newspaper that he was seriously considering a run and would not "rule out the possibility of an official announcement in the near future". [26] On December 2, 2006, Daschle announced he would not run for President in 2008. [27] Senator from South Dakota: 1987 - 2005 (Democratic Leader: 1995 - 2005) Representative from the 1st District of South Dakota: 1979 - 1987 Howard Dean, former Governor of Vermont Howard Dean, born November 17, 1947 in New York, former Governor of Vermont. Howard Dean is the current DNC Chairman, and was a candidate for the nomination in 2004. Dean said if he won the DNC Chairmanship he would not run for president and, since he won, has often repeated this. [28] Governor of Vermont: 1991 - 2003 Senator Russ Feingold Russ Feingold, born March 2, 1953 in Wisconsin, U.S. Senator from that state. Announced to a meeting of the Tiger Bay Club of Volusia County, Florida, in January 2005 that he was considering a run for the nomination, and would decide after "going around the country" to campaign for fellow Democrats running for other offices.[31] His Federal Leadership PAC is the Progressive Patriots Fund,[32] which will be financing his travels around the country [29]. In early March 2005, his Senate campaign registered the domain name for the website http://www.russfeingold08.com as well as the .org and .net versions.[33] Later that month, he took a listening trip to Alabama. [30] In early April of 2005, Feingold announced that he would be divorcing his second wife, a move which some analysts believe could diminish his chances of winning the presidential nomination. On August 17, 2005, Feingold became the first U.S. Senator to publicly support a firm date for withdrawal from the Iraq War,[34] suggesting December 31, 2006 as a reasonable date. Although Feingold's stance was generally criticized by other Democratic senators, including Biden and Clinton, his support in nonscientific internet polls of party activists jumped. In December 2005, when he led the Senate campaign against the renewal of the Patriot Act his support among party activists further intensified. Following the overwhelming resonance for his anti-war and bi-partisan rule of law positions in the 2006 Congressional elections, Feingold commented that the legislative victory "pushes me in both directions," and "he could make a decision on a presidential run before the end of the year" [35]. However, on November 12th, 2006, Feingold ruled out a 2008 presidential candidacy [31], but has stated he is willing to consider an offer from the eventual nominee for the vice-presidency [36]. Feingold has stated that his first choice for president in 2008 would be someone who voted against the war in Iraq, and failing that his second choice would be someone who wasn't in Congress but spoke out against the war at the time. He also said he would "be happy" if Barack Obama or Al Gore ran, but stated he was not offering an endorsement. [37] Senator from Wisconsin: 1993 - Present Mark Warner, former Governor of Virginia Mark Warner, born December 15, 1954 in Indiana, former Governor of Virginia. Time Magazine rated him in November 2005 as one of America's top 5 governors and Governing magazine said Virginia was the best governed state in the Nation under Warner's direction. Warner's profile increased due to his help in securing Tim Kaine's election to succeed him, seen widely as a rare victory for Democrats in a majority-Republican state. There is also a strong Draft Mark Warner for President movement. On October 12, 2006, Warner unequivocally stated that he would not seek the 2008 Democratic nomination. But on December 17, speculation that Warner was again considering a presidential run was confirmed by former Warner colleague Dan Conley[38]. Whatever the case, Warner's fund-raising capabilities, his Forward Together PAC, and his potential as a Vice-Presidential nominee[39] all suggest Warner could play a strong role in the 2008 election. "

Wiki is a little behind the times, but I think Edwards, Clinton, & Obama and all the rest offer some well known names while having a variety of options. These guys have strong and different opinions which is better than carbon copy cut outs of each other. Who do the republicans have to challange them?

http://ncst.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2208368592
Here's the only presidential candidate from either party likely to be from our state, and who went to the same undergrad we did.

1/20/2007 2:27:27 PM

Prediction: people will bitch about there being no good candidates anywhere in this election without actually researching the issues and finding out who best matches their values.

The only people that might run that I would say "no fucking way" to are Kerry, Tancredo, Brownback, Romney, and Gingrich, maybe Edwards (don't trust him at all), probably whoever runs from the Libertarian, Green, and Constitution Party, too, as long as they nominate the sort of people they usually nominate.

[Edited on January 20, 2007 at 2:53 PM. Reason : .]

1/20/2007 2:50:14 PM

I hate that woman.

But, announcing now was a good idea, cause its pretty much the last of the "huge media blitz" announcements until people start closing out exploratory committees and either ending it all or moving to an actual campaign fund. So, she pretty much killed Obamamania.

1/20/2007 2:53:59 PM

do you not trust edwards because of the issues and research

pot or kettle

1/20/2007 2:55:17 PM

I don't trust him so much more because of a lack of experience. He didn't do a whole lot in congress.

Maybe he'll suprise me, that's why I included that "maybe" in there.

He should really do more with his issues page, first of all:
http://johnedwards.com/about/issues/

[Edited on January 20, 2007 at 3:10 PM. Reason : .]

1/20/2007 3:09:17 PM

Hillary's the only Commie I'd actually vote for at the presidential level, esp if she's running against a fellow lib like McCain. So I'm happy.

And I doubt Obama will get very far. His only real challenger in a political race was... Alan Keyes. Even good ol' Lurch himself would be a stronger competitor than Alan Keyes...

1/20/2007 3:21:30 PM

John Edwards is a joke candidate. I can't believe that Kerry chose him as a running mate last election. Hell, I can't believe that Kerry was chosen himself. Long story short, Edwards is pretty much the worst presidential candidate you could have . . . I hate Bush but might have considered voting for Bush if Edwards was the candidate last term.

That being said, I don't know what to do about Hillary. What what I remember, she was more active internationally as a first lady than Bush, Cheney, and Bush's wife (lawl) combined.

I really was liking McCain based soley on who he was, but I have to look at his stance and past to make a better judgement.

[Edited on January 20, 2007 at 3:27 PM. Reason : .]

1/20/2007 3:26:46 PM

long story short, thanks for explaining your reasons

Anyone who likes McCain now would probably be pissed about what he was in 2000. Anyone who liked him in 2000 should probably be supporting a diff candidate.

1/20/2007 3:46:37 PM

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"The good part about Obama running is that we'll get to see how racist the south is."

Just the south huh? If you don't think there is every bit as much racism if not more in the north you've obviously never been there.

1/20/2007 4:53:45 PM

they wont elect him because he went to a muslim school before they wont elect him because he's black.

1/20/2007 4:55:40 PM

If Obama is the DEMS choice, they should just fold up and late McCain be prez, and not waste taxpayers money. Obama will not even come close to winning any state in the south(most dems dont, but he will get killed, figuratively speaking) The midwest dont care for a black prez either, so all those states will go to McCain....he has to win the Gore states plus one other....i dont see it happening...ohio aint gonna go for a blacky

1/20/2007 5:03:20 PM

http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/player.jhtml?ml_video=78239&ml_collection=&ml_gateway=&ml_gateway_id=&ml_comedian=&ml_runtime=&ml_context=show&ml_origin_url=%2Fshows%2Fthe_daily_show%2Fvideos%2Fcelebrity_interviews%2Findex.jhtml%3Fstart%3D33&ml_playlist=&lnk=&is_large=true

About 3 mins long if anyone wants to watch.

1/20/2007 5:04:34 PM

Barack Hussein Obama

If anyone thinks he can win you are kidding yourself. Name and image is everything in politics, and with a name like that he has lost before he has even begun.

Clinton is way to divisive, as has already been mentioned.

Edwards is to slick for his own good. There is a good segment of the population that wouldn't vote for him just because he was a trial lawyer and comes off like one. ie he doesn't portray trust well, which hurts him.


The Dems would do well to not count their chickens to soon. The Republican defeat this past election was more to do with scandal and failure of the Republicans to do something about it... They still need a strong new direction, which they have yet to find. Right now they are the "Anti-Bush" Party, that won't cut it for long.

1/20/2007 7:39:25 PM

god dammit

1/20/2007 7:50:24 PM

yeah, because that name certainly kept him out of the senate

1/20/2007 8:36:22 PM

he was running against alan keyes in illinois.

1/20/2007 8:52:03 PM

^ Exactly

1/20/2007 10:00:02 PM

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"Governor Bill Richardson Bill Richardson, born November 15, 1947 in California, Governor of New Mexico, former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Secretary of Energy and U.S. Representative. After reportedly informing party leaders in February 2005 of his intention to run for president, on December 7, 2006 Richardson said "I am running" during his response to a prospective question about the 2008 presidential election by Fox News, however he later retracted the decision and said he would make an official decision by January. He has recently stated that he intends to form an exploratory committee. [19][20]. A Draft Richardson movement is now active. [21] Governor of New Mexico: 2003 - Present United States Secretary of Energy: 1998 - 2001 United States Ambassador to the United Nations: 1997-1998 Representative from the 3rd District of New Mexico: 1983 - 1997 "

Bill Richardson has a good history, and from what little i've heard about him, he would make a good candidate.

1/20/2007 10:47:11 PM

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"The good part about Obama running is that we'll get to see how racist the south is."

The good part about Obama running is that I'll get lots of opportunities to point out to people how I'm not racist by making a big deal about his color.

1/20/2007 11:09:45 PM

Richardson was expected to announce sometime between today and monday. Might delay due to Hillary, but I am not sure.

As for his qualifications, he just helped broker a ceasefire in Sudan.

1/20/2007 11:13:30 PM

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" a black man wont win in america...................................yet "

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" i'd put money on a black man being assassinated if he were electeda serious condenter for president "

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" The good part about Obama running is that we'll get to see how racist the southAmerica is "

Hilary will never win a general election. the republican party can be in complete disarray, but you put hilary on the ballot, and every single white conservative, male or female, is going to come out of the woodwork just to go vote against her. she will truly mobilize the republican party.

i think the best thing that ever happened to the democrats is Barack Obama. he'd make a great pres, and I'd work for his campaign. His only flaw (so far) is a relative lack of experience. but that may work in his favor.

however, I'm truly worried for his safety once he wins the primary.




[Edited on January 21, 2007 at 4:00 AM. Reason : ]

1/21/2007 3:59:40 AM

no one is going to shoot him (at least I hope not)


god forbid what happens if someone does

1/21/2007 4:21:52 AM

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"Clinton is way to divisive, as has already been mentioned."

See also: Bush, George W.

1/21/2007 2:26:40 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6284673.stm

Richardson is in.

1/21/2007 4:05:15 PM

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"Obama would crush anyone currently in the republican pool in a heads-up election. "

I don't not like Obama (yet) but the polls I have seen show that even a pro-war McCain takes out Obama heads up. I don't know it that will still be the case a month from now, let alone two years, but you're dead wrong about him "crushing" any of those republicans.

1/21/2007 4:07:20 PM

^ not as of this poll:

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"Jan. 17-18, 2007. Conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates International."

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"3b. Suppose you had to choose between Barack Obama, the Democrat, and John McCain, the Republican. Who would you be more likely to vote for? As of today, do you lean more toward Obama, the Democrat; or McCain, the Republican?"

Formatting is a bit weird, so instead of quoting, I'll just mention that it's 46% Obama, 44% McCain, and 10% undecided for the hypothetical Obama vs. McCain election.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16712630/site/newsweek/

1/21/2007 5:21:22 PM

she can run all she wants but she wont win

1/21/2007 5:24:00 PM

you know what it means if Hillary is president?

it means Bill will be getting his dick sucked in the White House again...

1/22/2007 12:12:44 AM

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"The good part about Obama running is that we'll get to see how racist the south is"

Yeah, for the first time ever the election results would show the southern states as red and the northern states as blue.

1/22/2007 1:04:17 PM

Obama needs some Jack Bauer on this shit.

1/22/2007 1:11:46 PM

White folks will vote for obama. He makes Wayne Brady look like Malcomb X

1/22/2007 2:46:07 PM

there's some people who are democrats because Abe Lincoln was republican

they aint voting for a black guy (or a woman)

1/22/2007 3:40:32 PM