Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
to respect Islamic Law. What a load of crap
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,248597,00.html
Quote : | "Toilets in one London prison are getting a face-lift — or rather, a change in direction — to accommodate Muslim inmates who can't use them while facing Mecca, a British newspaper reported.
Government officials ackowledged using tax dollars for the changes to the facilities, but maintained that moving the toilets was part of "on-going refurbishment," according to an article in The Sun.
Click here to read the original report.
Islamic code prohibits Muslims from facing or turning their backs on the direction of prayer when they use the bathroom. Muslim prisoners complained of having to sit sideways on toilets so as to not break code.
Faith leaders in the government pressured officials to approve turning the toilets 90 degrees at HMP Brixton in London.
A Muslim American rights worker commended the London prison system for their actions, but said the problem, so far, doesn't appear to be an issue in the U.S.
"There have been very significant and numerous complaints at U.S. prisons on issues of regulating hygiene and respect for dietary laws," said Ibrahim Ramey, director of human and civil rights work for Muslim America Society. However, Ramey said he was unaware of any specific complaints regarding the direction of toilets in U.S. prisons.
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Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
Respect islamic law my ass. 1/30/2007 2:28:45 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Man Islamic Law is stupid sometimes most of the time
Don't double post asswipe
[Edited on January 30, 2007 at 2:34 PM. Reason : ty] 1/30/2007 2:29:10 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
^try again....good job
[Edited on January 30, 2007 at 2:40 PM. Reason : .] 1/30/2007 2:30:23 PM |
Locke Veteran 185 Posts user info edit post |
I still wonder how people overlooked the fact that as a prisoner you don't have any rights of a citizen anymore, save basic human rights. 1/30/2007 3:04:03 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
the freedom to worship your religion or your god is a basic human right. 1/30/2007 3:06:12 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
isnt it some kind of blasphemy to take a shit while you are praying? 1/30/2007 3:10:36 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
i've done that before, but it is always a prayer, of Why the fuck did I drink all that liquor last night. 1/30/2007 3:15:57 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
it just seems that these prisoners have some type of bowel problems or something
let me see if i understand the situation...as a Muslim, you pray 5 times every day facing Mecca, correct? Ok, how long do each of the prayers take? I don't know so I'm asking...5-10 minutes a piece? Can they really not hold their piss or shit for that long? Nope...just let the taxpayers pay for criminals to renovate their bathrooms 1/30/2007 3:19:07 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the freedom to worship your religion or your god is a basic human right." |
which can be done whether you're shitting towards the east or any other direction. This is a waste of time and money for the UK. I feel sorry for the taxpayers1/30/2007 3:21:58 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^^You're missing it.
Quote : | "Islamic code prohibits Muslims from facing or turning their backs on the direction of prayer when they use the bathroom." |
They cannot turn their back or face the direction of prayer when they use the restroom, whether they're praying or not.1/30/2007 3:27:09 PM |
quiet guy Suspended 3020 Posts user info edit post |
Could they just shit sideways on the toilet? 1/30/2007 3:28:02 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
The UK should respect islamic code as I would respect the constitution of Venezuela....or lack there of..
These self proclaimed "muslims" in the nice, posh Western prisons are doing this as a show. They are like 5 year olds riding their bikes when a visitor comes to the house "Hey, look at me!"
[Edited on January 30, 2007 at 3:32 PM. Reason : .] 1/30/2007 3:30:39 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^^That's what they're complaining about.
You'd think shitting sideways would be a great way to show extra devotion to God, but whatever... 1/30/2007 3:35:56 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ah ok...that makes sense
well it makes sense from the perspective of why they would want the toilets rearranged
makes zero sense from the perspective of a good reason to use tax dollars to renovate criminals' bathrooms
does Islamic Law not forbid them from committing a crime and being sent to prison?
[Edited on January 30, 2007 at 3:36 PM. Reason : .] 1/30/2007 3:36:12 PM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder what direction Nick Berg was facing when they cut his head off? 1/30/2007 3:44:35 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but maintained that moving the toilets was part of "on-going refurbishment,"" |
If it's true that they were moving the toilets anyways, I don't see why they shouldn't arrange them in a way that would respect the inmates' religion.
If extra money was spent to go out of their way to do it, then nvm.1/30/2007 3:48:14 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
And all this time I thought prison was supposed to be punishment... 1/30/2007 3:57:12 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
^^^What the hell does that have to do with anything? 1/30/2007 3:57:58 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
^i think it has to do with how hypocritical islamic law is perhaps?
"dont face that way when you pee...but please, decapitate people who arent muslim fundamentalists like yourself" 1/30/2007 4:55:58 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the freedom to worship your religion or your god is a basic human right." |
What if my religion requires me to not be held in prison? And also to steal little girls underpants?
I mean, why won't they accommodate me? Sure, I appeal to the absurd here, but the point remains that as a prisoner you are free to worship whatever God you choose, but there are certain things that won't be adjusted for you. If you don't like it, don't go to prison.1/30/2007 5:09:28 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the freedom to worship your religion or your god is a basic human right." |
and nobody's preventing them from shitting sideways.
prison is not about comfort.1/30/2007 5:12:16 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
praying to Mecca while taking a dump should be considered a good idea.
Mohammad (pbuh), if anything, was a big fan of multitasking. 1/30/2007 6:38:27 PM |
NCSUDiver All American 1829 Posts user info edit post |
If they are in a windowless building how do they know which way Mecca is anyway? Are they allowed to have a compass with them at all times so they know they are facing the right direction? 1/30/2007 7:32:41 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
This is dumb as hell. They should not be accommodated. 1/30/2007 8:25:00 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Relolgion 1/30/2007 8:27:16 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^^^They probably can figure it out some other way.
(Or they ask. Or one of them knows and passes it along.)
[Edited on January 30, 2007 at 10:26 PM. Reason : sss] 1/30/2007 10:26:14 PM |
quiet guy Suspended 3020 Posts user info edit post |
maybe the prison guards decided to be pranksters and put a sign in the bathroom just to see them try to go to the bathroom sideways 1/30/2007 10:43:14 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
If these were Christians having their religious beliefs violated, some people would be freaking out. 1/31/2007 12:06:38 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
well, i dislike christians as much as the next feller...
...but damn them muslims have some silly fucking rules. 1/31/2007 12:25:35 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If these were Christian convicts" |
dont accidentally overlook the fact that these Muslims who are being oppressed are prisoners1/31/2007 12:29:59 AM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
its stuff like this that emboldens the ultranationalist elements of society to gain promenance, although they might have a case here. 1/31/2007 12:32:52 AM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26099 Posts user info edit post |
Does this mean that they sit down to urinate, as well? 1/31/2007 12:33:15 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
^ftw 1/31/2007 12:38:31 AM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26099 Posts user info edit post |
Or does Allah only care about #2? 1/31/2007 12:58:05 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Islamic code prohibits Muslims from facing or turning their backs on the direction of prayer" |
1/31/2007 2:08:19 AM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, we got that. They have to crap sideways. But do they have to pee sideways as well. Do their kids beds face north and south in case they happen to wet the bed? 1/31/2007 7:52:44 AM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
it shouldn't make a difference what religion you are
you forfeited most of your rights when you became a felon
(I have no problem with allowing prayers or service or what not, maybe some people could use guidance of some type)
but making some concession to felons because they might not go to heaven with their virgins is asanine 1/31/2007 9:31:32 AM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
^^haha 1/31/2007 12:56:25 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
i am tired of their shit
no pun intended 1/31/2007 4:59:41 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
"Cause I'm sittin sideways.." 2/1/2007 8:28:13 AM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Wow this is retarded. 2/1/2007 8:48:50 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
so fucking retarded 2/1/2007 1:39:26 PM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
WOAH WOAH WOAH
OK so you mean to tell me that Muslims have to bring a compass with them every where they go to know which way they have to face when they take a shit?
So let's say there is a flight heading from Barcelona to New York City, and say there's a muslim on the plane that has diarrhea. Does he have to take a shit facing away from the door in a plane restroom to keep from being a criminal in the eyes of Islamic Law?
You gotta be shittin me. I'll face where I want and shit where I want, you hear that Allah?
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
I guess they're forbidden from going to the North or South Poles of the Earth] 2/1/2007 2:28:33 PM |
Shivan Bird Football time 11094 Posts user info edit post |
If there was any justice in the world, the prison would install rotating toilets and Mecca wallpaper. 2/1/2007 3:35:40 PM |