adfodgiad Veteran 167 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks. I like him better than Hitlery Clinton but I don't get the hype what did he do?
Of course I will vote for neither of them under any circumstance 2/1/2007 3:31:00 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Of course I will vote for neither of them under any circumstance" |
So why bother explaining to you then?
I think guth is right about you.2/1/2007 3:34:29 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
Hitlery Clinton? You sound like a reasonable and rational person. 2/1/2007 3:34:44 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
He speaks so well!!!!! 2/1/2007 3:35:14 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
so is hilary a communist or nazi??
WHICH ONE IS IT 2/1/2007 3:36:34 PM |
adfodgiad Veteran 167 Posts user info edit post |
lol calm down the hitlery thing was joke I'm not actually comparing them. But she is kind of an extremist in her own way. Look I have no opinions between the liberal candidates I just want to know if most of Obama is hype anyway, just like Dean or whatever, but i guess most politicians are. 2/1/2007 3:40:01 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
The crap about no one knowing anything about him is dumb.
It's all out there for anyone who wants to read it. In fact, he wrote a book about his beliefs, which became a New York Times bestseller.
I respect his life story a great deal, and from what I've read of his last book, I really like his views on America and government. (summary: http://wikisummaries.org/The_Audacity_of_Hope )
That, and it'd be refreshing to have a President who's mostly self-made, intelligent, and doesn't come off as a dumbass every time he speaks. 2/1/2007 4:24:47 PM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
Agreed in the sense that Barack Obama's beliefs and stances have been clearly documented, both through his books and his voting record in the Illinois legislature. His books are articulate and well written, spinning a solid story. Where I think he may potentially face a bit of a hurdle is with his voting record: he has near perfect voting ratings from traditionally "progressive" organizations such as the Americans for Democratic Action, the AFL-CIO, and Planned Parenthood. I don't think that this has been advertised clearly yet, but I believe he may be able to mitigate the impact with a clear policy vision.
I believe he is a good man, very intelligent, and a fine public servant. I disagree with a good chunk of his political stances, but I have a lot of respect for him.
[Edited on February 1, 2007 at 5:29 PM. Reason : .] 2/1/2007 5:27:12 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
partly because he reminds us of Billy and the good times that coincided with Bill's tenure -- may be ill-fated if congress stays Democratic (need gridlock)
partly because he seems to Bush what O'Brien seems to be to Amato -- and i'm tired of the 'he doesn't have experience' card people play. i mean seriously, look at the management whiz we have in there now.
and partly because his life story speaks to us. 2/1/2007 5:28:18 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Oh here we go.
This guy failed to troll the Mooninite invasion thread and then he found the post new topic button. 2/1/2007 5:34:11 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^^I'm totally in love with you.
^
[Edited on February 1, 2007 at 5:35 PM. Reason : ] 2/1/2007 5:35:03 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and i'm tired of the 'he doesn't have experience' card people play. i mean seriously, look at the management whiz we have in there now." |
This critique of Obama is lame even without the Bush comparison. Here's the stuff mentioned on wikipedia:
-elected president of the Harvard Law Review -worked for the civil rights law firm Miner, Barnhill & Galland -taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School -Illinois State Senate 1996-2004; chairman of the Senate Health and Human Services Committee. -2004-on US Senate -sponsored 152 bills and resolutions brought before the 109th Congress in 2005 and 2006, and cosponsored another 4272/1/2007 5:38:00 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
i just got my copy of 'audacity of hope' today in the mail
well it's the 5 cd version 'book on tape'
they should have called it 'audioacity of hope' LOL 2/1/2007 5:47:47 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
But then it'd be pronounced audio-ass-city. 2/1/2007 5:50:44 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
OBAMA NATION 2/1/2007 5:55:57 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
You'd better copyright that before Fox covers the 2008 campaign 2/1/2007 6:03:35 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
the guy has done nothing...what qualifies him to be president?? 2/1/2007 6:05:10 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "-elected president of the Harvard Law Review -worked for the civil rights law firm Miner, Barnhill & Galland -taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School -Illinois State Senate 1996-2004; chairman of the Senate Health and Human Services Committee. -2004-on US Senate -sponsored 152 bills and resolutions brought before the 109th Congress in 2005 and 2006, and cosponsored another 427" |
Those are better qualifications than a number of very decent presidents, and one very crappy president
[Edited on February 1, 2007 at 6:11 PM. Reason : .]2/1/2007 6:10:18 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
ask this guy. he pulled it off
2/1/2007 6:11:21 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
i stole it from one of the few daily shows i've seen recently...don't watch it as much as i used to...feels too smug now
[Edited on February 1, 2007 at 6:12 PM. Reason : ^^^^] 2/1/2007 6:11:39 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
ok...without mentioning Bush
what qualifies him to be president? over a million other people in the house and senate??? 2/1/2007 6:12:42 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
natural born american citizen
35 years old
resident for 14 years
[Edited on February 1, 2007 at 6:15 PM. Reason : k] 2/1/2007 6:14:27 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
exactly....NOTHING qualifies him 2/1/2007 6:15:08 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
i just listed all the qualifications you need 2/1/2007 6:16:07 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "-elected president of the Harvard Law Review -worked for the civil rights law firm Miner, Barnhill & Galland -taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School -Illinois State Senate 1996-2004; chairman of the Senate Health and Human Services Committee. -2004-on US Senate -sponsored 152 bills and resolutions brought before the 109th Congress in 2005 and 2006, and cosponsored another 427" |
he's a perfect example of the American dream he's an excellent speaker people like him
I mean, what are your criteria for "qualified?"
[Edited on February 1, 2007 at 6:17 PM. Reason : .]2/1/2007 6:16:29 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
^^my point exactly
[Edited on February 1, 2007 at 6:16 PM. Reason : asdf] 2/1/2007 6:16:40 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
your point is that he is qualified to be president?
okay 2/1/2007 6:18:10 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
yup
i win again 2/1/2007 6:18:27 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED 2/1/2007 6:19:03 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
I think his point is that you should be a 60 year-old career politician before you become president.
[Edited on February 1, 2007 at 6:20 PM. Reason : .] 2/1/2007 6:20:14 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
haha...right....still waiting on those reasons he should be president guys...still waiting 2/1/2007 6:21:12 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Aren't you late for your date with adfodgiad or something? 2/1/2007 6:21:12 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
yup...i am actually.
and im still waiting... 2/1/2007 6:21:37 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
I'm waiting for your response to my answer 2/1/2007 6:23:04 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
k..anyone going to offer anything serious??
i mean...i was president of my frat. president of BAP tutored people in math teach guitar lesson i have been a resident for 14 years I volunteer at Habitat
doesnt mean i should be president...anyone got anything on barak??
[Edited on February 1, 2007 at 6:25 PM. Reason : asdf] 2/1/2007 6:24:06 PM |
OneNighter86 Suspended 8017 Posts user info edit post |
can republicans explain why they think Bush is a good president? or why they even like him? or if he was even more qualified then his previous competitors for presidency? 2/1/2007 6:26:26 PM |
quiet guy Suspended 3020 Posts user info edit post |
Experience doesn't matter to the average American. They like someone with a likable personality than someone with a good deal of experience. So, to put it simply, he makes a better candidate than a President.
[Edited on February 1, 2007 at 6:28 PM. Reason : ] 2/1/2007 6:27:18 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
lets see...bush was the governor of a huge state....i would say that gives him some managerial skills...
and bush sucks....hows that....forget bush..like i said...without mentioning bush (which you probably cant do) why would barak be a good president??
anyone??anything?? 2/1/2007 6:27:39 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
2/1/2007 6:28:19 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
what qualifications are you looking for? What in your mind makes someone qualified for office? But these accomplishments are nothing to scoff at either.
-elected president of the Harvard Law Review -worked for the civil rights law firm Miner, Barnhill & Galland -taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School -Illinois State Senate 1996-2004; chairman of the Senate Health and Human Services Committee. -2004-on US Senate -sponsored 152 bills and resolutions brought before the 109th Congress in 2005 and 2006, and cosponsored another 427 2/1/2007 6:28:25 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
no thier not...but alot of people have alot more qualifications than those...AND they have some experience running something....barak has none of that 2/1/2007 6:29:41 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
2/1/2007 6:30:55 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
they're, not their.
and what qualifications are you looking for? What in your mind equals a qualification for the presidency? 2/1/2007 6:31:05 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
ONE-PARTY SYSTEM 2/1/2007 6:31:50 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
^^typical
im looking for any qualification...they are on you to come up with since you support him so much..
[Edited on February 1, 2007 at 6:32 PM. Reason : asdf] 2/1/2007 6:32:15 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and what qualifications are you looking for? What in your mind equals a qualification for the presidency?" |
2/1/2007 6:33:04 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
He's expecting a career politician
Unless the Democrats field a career politician, then he'll want an academic or business owner. Whatever, really. 2/1/2007 6:33:38 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they are on you to come up with since you support him so much.. " |
2/1/2007 6:33:42 PM |
Jere Suspended 4838 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""and what qualifications are you looking for? What in your mind equals a qualification for the presidency?"" |
I can answer this for him: republican2/1/2007 6:34:23 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
im looking for experience, nutsmackr
how do you know that barak will do anything at all??...he hasnt done a thing in congress
pardon...he hasnt been successful at anything 2/1/2007 6:35:15 PM |