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""You have to admire what they have done in their last two games,” UNC coach Roy Williams said. “I don’t know that I have ever seen a team shoot 76 percent against us before. I have no answers. They had more passion for the game than we did, and I don’t understand that. They dominated us. “I admire the way they played.”"

2/3/2007 9:33:08 PM

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""The game they played against Virginia Tech, and to turn around and play like this against us, Sid and his staff and all the Wolfpack faithful should feel very good about that," North Carolina coach Roy Williams said."

2/3/2007 9:39:08 PM

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"They had more passion for the game than we did, and I don’t understand that"

that's the primary thing Herb lacked that Sid doesnt. Lowe will get our guys up for these games regardless where to Herb it was just another game

2/3/2007 9:39:21 PM

got to admit... i hate carolina, but roy williams is a classy guy

2/3/2007 9:39:40 PM

yeah Roy Williams rules...












































...the shitter

2/3/2007 9:40:23 PM

OH SNAP JTMARTIN

2/3/2007 9:41:06 PM

sid is the fucking man.... but without atsur this wouldnt have happened.

2/3/2007 9:41:19 PM

Sid gets it. Pure and simple. I liked Herb fine and everything, but Sid gets the hate that every NCSU supporter should have for UNC.

2/3/2007 9:49:59 PM

Herb who?

2/3/2007 9:50:33 PM

Sid definitely is the reason

WRAL.com has a post-game interview w/ Gavin Grant, and he even admits to not really understanding the UNC/NCSU rivalry since "he's from New York," but he knew this game was more than "just a game" and went out and did everything to win

2/3/2007 9:51:50 PM

2/3/2007 9:52:08 PM

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"got to admit... i hate carolina, but roy williams is a classy guy"

i agree. i also think the same about Hansborough. i hate when people trash on him all the time. yeah the guy's a little goofy looking but he keeps his mouth shut and just plays ball with class. i admire that.

i also think sid definitely puts more passion into it that herb. kinda like chuck did. it's just inside them both.

2/3/2007 10:03:57 PM

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"got to admit... i hate carolina, but roy williams is a classy guy"

he's not the easiest to hate, but i seem to pull it off.

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"yeah the guy's a little goofy looking but he keeps his mouth shut open and just plays ball with class."

fixed that for you

2/3/2007 10:12:35 PM

Great win, but what about the losses? Sid can get them up for UNC, but what about Duke? Can't we just be happy for a win and quit playing favorites?

Herb beat UNC 4 times in a row.

2/3/2007 10:12:51 PM

2/3/2007 10:14:02 PM

^^Matt Doherty

[Edited on February 3, 2007 at 10:16 PM. Reason : ^^]

2/3/2007 10:16:24 PM

UNC.

He also beat Duke twice in two years, once when they were #1.

2/3/2007 10:19:27 PM

how the fuck can you stand up for hansbrough? that swing he took at costner is a testament to how he acts when things don't go his way. he's anything but a class act. roy, too.

2/3/2007 10:29:48 PM

^honestly the guy gets slapped, banged, thrown to the floor and never lost his cool before

2/3/2007 10:54:39 PM

^ Quit your crying. He also shoots a shitload of FTs too, so somebody's noticing how those awful meanies are attacking your man crush of a player.

2/3/2007 11:05:25 PM

hansborough is a faggot

almost as big of a faggot as roy williams

2/3/2007 11:09:05 PM

sissy punch

2/3/2007 11:17:26 PM

summary
" I don’t know that I’ve erver had a team shoot 76 percent in the second half against us before. I have no answers. I don’t understand that. They dominated us.We thought we could win just by showing up, and you can’t do that.We went out today and got our butts kicked.” Roy Williams

2/4/2007 12:48:52 AM

here is the rest of his quote

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"I congratulate Sidney and his staff. You have to admire what they’ve done the last two games. I don’t know that I’ve ever had a team shoot 76 percent in the second half against us before. I have no answers. They had more passion for the game than we did, and I don’t understand that. I never will understand that. They dominated us. I told Sidney how happy I am for him. I told him I was ticked off about how we played, but I didn’t say ‘ticked off.’ I’m ticked off, but I admire the way they played. I think the game they played the other night at Virginia Tech had a very big impact on how they played today. We talk constantly about never allowing anyone to catch a length-of-the-court pass for a layup, and yet they did [Gavin Grant’s layup at the end of the first half]. I can’t explain it. We’re too fat and sassy right now. We thought we could win just by showing up, and you can’t do that. Every team in this league is good. There is going to be adversity all the time, but you can’t just let people jump up and shoot the ball right in your face. There’s a certain amount of toughness needed to play this game. They didn’t give us the trophy last week when we beat Arizona. We went out today and got our butts kicked. "

2/4/2007 1:09:42 AM

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"We’re too fat and sassy right now."

lol

[Edited on February 4, 2007 at 1:36 AM. Reason : .]

2/4/2007 1:36:12 AM

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"We went out today and got our butts kicked."

2/4/2007 1:41:51 AM

sashay, shontae!

2/4/2007 1:42:33 AM

OK I promised myself that I would stay out of this b/c of how I feel about Herb
But this right here PISSES MY ASS OFF

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"WRAL.com has a post-game interview w/ Gavin Grant, and he even admits to not really understanding the UNC/NCSU rivalry since "he's from New York," but he knew this game was more than "just a game" and went out and did everything to win"

WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU? WHY DO YOU ACCEPT A SCHOLARSHIP AT A SCHOOL AND NOT BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THE CULTURE OF THE VERY SPORT YOU PLAY?
JHODGE UNDERSTOOD AND HE WAS FROM NY...
I'D PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE IF I EVER HEARD ONE OF OUR BALL PLAYERS SAY THAT.
THAT IS JUST STUPID AND MAYBE MORE ANNOYING THAN ANY ATHLETE'S COMMENT EVER (discounting of course amphibious)

2/4/2007 11:41:47 AM

I hate UNC.
I hate Hansbrough, hated Makthar Ndiaye, Rashad McCants
I hate just about all things UNC.


I cannot bring myself to hate Roy Williams. He's the enemy, but he really is a classy guy in a win or a loss and hates State with a passion....arguably moreso than Duke.

If you listened to his presser when he was introduced as the head coach, I couldn't help but smile at his stories about NC State.

I'll never pull for him and I hope he never wins another game at UNC....but he seems to be a good man

2/4/2007 11:46:29 AM

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"North Carolina rallied to tie it 36-36 on Lawson's free throw with 5.7 seconds left in the half. The Tar Heels allowed Grant to drive the length of the floor for a layup just before the buzzer, a defensive lapse that infuriated Williams -- who stormed toward the locker room when the ball was barely through the net. "It was not very bright," Williams said. "

2/4/2007 11:53:09 AM

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"I hate UNC. I hate Hansbrough, hated Makthar Ndiaye, Rashad McCants I hate just about all things UNC. I cannot bring myself to hate Roy Williams. He's the enemy, but he really is a classy guy in a win or a loss and hates State with a passion....arguably moreso than Duke. "

The first one I understand. McCants, of course. Everyone hated him because he was a cocky asshole, but the whole Hansbrough thing I dont understand. Where does your hate for him come from? Just general hate toward Carolina?

2/4/2007 11:53:30 AM

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"WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU? WHY DO YOU ACCEPT A SCHOLARSHIP AT A SCHOOL AND NOT BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THE CULTURE OF THE VERY SPORT YOU PLAY? JHODGE UNDERSTOOD AND HE WAS FROM NY... I'D PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE IF I EVER HEARD ONE OF OUR BALL PLAYERS SAY THAT. THAT IS JUST STUPID AND MAYBE MORE ANNOYING THAN ANY ATHLETE'S COMMENT EVER (discounting of course amphibious)"

50% of our football team was the same way the past 7 years. They cared about FSU, not UNC... I don't really mind it. He told the truth. No one in NYC gives a shit about college sports.. it's all professional. If you grow up there you could give a fuck less about Duke-UNC or NCSU-UNC. Hodge was one of the rare kids who 'got it' from the beginning. Unless you want to shut yourself out from one of, if not, the largest hotbed of talent in America you deal with it as a program...

UNC-NCSU has NOTHING to do with the culture of the sport as a whole. I'm sure you meant the culture of the sport in the region.. The Knicks have been and will always be the culture of the sport in NYC (and maybe Syracuse to a much, much, much smaller degree in NYC).

[Edited on February 4, 2007 at 11:57 AM. Reason : z]

2/4/2007 11:56:08 AM

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"The first one I understand. McCants, of course. Everyone hated him because he was a cocky asshole, but the whole Hansbrough thing I dont understand. Where does your hate for him come from? Just general hate toward Carolina? "

The hate for Hansbrough isn't on the same level as a McClamps or Ndiaye. Hansbrough is a competitor, an incredible talent, and you've got to appreciate the kid's heart.

I dunno...he's kinda thier "leader"...he's an incredible player, and I think he gets away with a little too much from the refs. I just can't stand looking at him. I guess that's the reason for my hatred....nothing too serious.

He doesn't fit into the "YOU SUCK AT LIFE" category that some other hated UNC players fall into, but I'm not gonna like him.

I just included him up there becuase he's current. I wouldn't group him into any kind of category with the other 2

[Edited on February 4, 2007 at 12:09 PM. Reason : ]

2/4/2007 12:00:44 PM

^^ exactly.

You have to understand the North is the exact opposite from the South.


If the Bobcats/Hornets or whoever suck its no big deal. Hell, I cant rememebr the last time someone asked me if i "saw the game" last night and was referring to a professional sport.


Up North they think college sports are cute. If its not pro then it might as well be a middle school girls game.

[Edited on February 4, 2007 at 12:05 PM. Reason : a]

2/4/2007 12:05:30 PM

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"UNC-NCSU has NOTHING to do with the culture of the sport as a whole. "

tobacco road has nothing to do with the culture of college basketball? nothing? not at all?

i guess we wouldnt expect recruits at ucla to know their school's history either.

2/4/2007 12:05:38 PM

You think a kid growing up on the streets of Chicago knows how many NCAA Championships John Wooden won in the 60s and 70s? You think a kid growing up in the South Bronx knows who the fuck Everett Case is?

I'm sure Luc Richard Mbah A Moute pops in his Bill Walton college mix tape in every Friday and Saturday night instead of chasing SoCal tail to learn about UCLA history..

[Edited on February 4, 2007 at 12:11 PM. Reason : x]

2/4/2007 12:09:06 PM

haha >.<

2/4/2007 12:10:04 PM

[Edited on February 4, 2007 at 12:12 PM. Reason : ,]

2/4/2007 12:11:44 PM

oh well

i live in ACC Country

so i got the love and don't care what west coasters/midwesterners/new englanders think....i'm havin a good time

WE PLAYIN BASK-ET-BAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLL

2/4/2007 12:11:49 PM

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"UNC-NCSU has NOTHING to do with the culture of the sport as a whole"

bullshit.

NCSU is the reason dunking is allowed and at-large bids to the NCAAs
UNC is the reason we have a shot clock


So there

(And yes, I'm joking. I know you're talking about the rivalry)

[Edited on February 4, 2007 at 12:13 PM. Reason : ]

2/4/2007 12:12:33 PM

There is one thing you really have to learn about college sports.


90% of the elite college athletes dont give a fuck about "tradition".


They practice, lift weights, etc all with the dream in mind of playing professional sports.

There are the select few white guys who grew up wanting to be the man in college (Redick, Hurley, etc)


The rest of them want to get paid and fuck bitches.

They dont care about the opportunity to attend college classes for free. They do appreciate the free meals, the free gear, and the pussy.

2/4/2007 12:13:14 PM

Ha. I'm really not trying to downplay the significance that Case/NCSU/ACC has had on college basketball. Hell, without them college basketball as we know it doesn't exist today. Just saying that I don't expect a kid growing up in a pro town to be up on his southern rivalries and tradition. It's unrealisti to expect that.

I'm sure I'll get flamed at for that but luckily I won't have time to read it the rest of the day.. f'ing preparation for a super bowl party..

2/4/2007 12:15:03 PM

ny, Do me a favor, and ask 100 young guys in the bronx or wherever you are referring to what "Knicks" is short for, and tell me if at least 90% know.

2/4/2007 12:17:52 PM

^^I agree with you...just giving you a hard time




As far as State's effect on College Basketball, I only have 3 words.


Reynolds Crowd Meter




[Edited on February 4, 2007 at 12:19 PM. Reason : ]

2/4/2007 12:18:43 PM

towe and thompson also invented the alley oop, which is basically the most baller thing you can do

really though, tobacco road brought a lot to the table in terms of the culture of college basketball. pro basketball is garbage.

2/4/2007 1:10:11 PM

NC State was responsible for the ACC tournament.... and the ACC tournament was basically responsible for all other conference tournaments (Or to my knowledge there were no conference tournaments before Case drafted the ACC charter and began playing the Dixie Classic/ACC tournament shortly thereafter)

2/4/2007 1:15:58 PM

Wow
If the last 10 posts I read in this thread are true, I've lost all respect for athletes at NC State University

2/4/2007 3:18:30 PM

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"pro basketball is garbage"

2/4/2007 3:23:09 PM

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"ny, Do me a favor, and ask 100 young guys in the bronx or wherever you are referring to what "Knicks" is short for, and tell me if at least 90% know."

what does that matter?

2/4/2007 4:01:48 PM

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"If the last 10 posts I read in this thread are true, I've lost all respect for athletes at NC State University"

why's this?

2/4/2007 4:06:16 PM