Please to STOP hiring former Redskins coaches. Thanks, k


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2/19/2007 12:03:09 PM

BUST

2/19/2007 12:05:54 PM

wow, do they really think that Norv Turner is a better coach than Marty Schottenheimer?

Norv has only coached TWO GAMES in the playoffs

2/19/2007 12:07:45 PM

Damn




[Edited on February 19, 2007 at 12:08 PM. Reason : ^ At least he's .500 ]

2/19/2007 12:07:58 PM

THAT SUCKS.....NORV TURNER....THEY NEED TO FIRE THAT GM IMMEDIATELY...WHAT A FUCK UP

2/19/2007 12:15:31 PM

crap

2/19/2007 12:33:04 PM

Done.

2/19/2007 12:39:24 PM

2/19/2007 12:39:58 PM

booo

2/19/2007 12:43:13 PM

looks like P Riv will be coaching on the field again....

[Edited on February 19, 2007 at 12:44 PM. Reason : .]

2/19/2007 12:43:53 PM

Oh man, what an upgrade...

2/19/2007 12:46:06 PM

First off Norv is a pretty good offensive coach, he just coached in two systems where the ownership group is nuts, Washington - Dan Snyder signs has beens and washed up stars. Oakland - Al Davis is just nuts.

Remember Norv ran the Cowboys offense when they had lots of weapons. He's going to have Rivers, Tomlinson, Gates. Its not the end of the world for the Chargers.

2/19/2007 12:50:24 PM

whats ur 2nd off

2/19/2007 12:55:59 PM

isn't san diego still running the same offense that norv turner put in place when he was the offensive coordinator a few years ago?

2/19/2007 1:09:04 PM

he will just need the right defensive coordinator. like papa said, Norv was the OC for two superbowl winning teams back to back. just to bad San Diego is a small time franchise and does not have the ability to lure that big time DC.

2/19/2007 1:16:12 PM

the chargers went 1-15 when norv was the offensive coordinator. norv sucks. this is a shitty hire. rex ryan should've been the man. aj smith needs to quit being so fucking cheap.

[Edited on February 19, 2007 at 1:24 PM. Reason : ]

2/19/2007 1:23:58 PM

HAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHA



good thing they got merriman to carry that team again

2/19/2007 1:27:51 PM

this is terrible

2/19/2007 1:30:54 PM

Norv Turner is a very good OC. As a head coach I don't think he will get it done. I'll you one thing --- San Francisco fans are quite upset he left. They credit him almost entirely for the dramatic improvement of both Gore and Alex Smith..

2/19/2007 1:35:56 PM

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"good thing they got merriman LT to carry that team again"

How did they do while merriman was suspended this year?

idiot.

2/19/2007 1:41:56 PM

you are saying you would rather have not merriman than have him?


right


you are a fool

2/19/2007 1:43:56 PM

no, I'm saying LT carries the chargers

and Merriman is just a very good defensive player

2/19/2007 1:44:37 PM

no, we would rather have LT than Merryman

we can win w/out merryman but not w/o LT

2/19/2007 1:45:34 PM

you are crazy merriman turned that team around


they have had lt for years but only got good when merriman got there


look it up, fact

/thread finished

2/19/2007 1:52:06 PM

hahahaha
nice one, troll

2/19/2007 1:53:06 PM

DIDN'T THE CHARGES GO UNDEFEATED WHEN MERRIMAN WAS SUSPENDED THIS YEAR?

THAT GUY IS THE DUMBEST MOTHERFUCKER ON THE PLANET

2/19/2007 1:55:17 PM

Guys. You're aruging with an alias. Or an idiot. Either way you can't win.

2/19/2007 1:56:44 PM

didnt the charges NOT go undefeated with LT for years?

exactly


this is too easy arugueing with these fools

2/19/2007 2:03:07 PM

that doesnt even make sense.


i'm rymngarfunkl?

2/19/2007 2:07:49 PM

made perfect sense fool


dont be that guy

HAHAHA


next

2/19/2007 2:11:41 PM

P.R is not going to have much fun this year, along with the whole team. AFC is too tough, and with a new O.C, D.C and NORV as a head coach, I see them going 9-7, maybe 10-6, but missing the playoffs.

2/19/2007 2:16:38 PM

Quote :

"P.R is not going to have much fun this year, along with the whole team. AFC is too tough, and with a new O.C, D.C and NORV as a head coach, I see them going 9-7, maybe 10-6, but missing the playoffs."

Who's going to win the AFC West? Denver with Cutler? Kansas City after they cut or trade LJ for being an arrogant douchebag? OAKLAND?

2/19/2007 2:18:33 PM

Denver...Their O-line always seems to dominate with any running back in the backfield, which should take a lot of pressure of Cutler. Plus, Cutler will be able to get the job done better than shaky jake the snake

2/19/2007 2:21:21 PM

it may be one thing if the they just wanted a whipping boy until someone like Cowher put his name back in the hat, but by then LT may be past his prime, and without Schotty, the dominant D and running schemes may have deteriorated...this is just plain dumb

2/19/2007 2:34:28 PM

Norv is not all that bad....I wanted Dallas to get him instead of Phillips.

He coached probably 2 of the 3 worst franchises in football now in the Redskins and Raiders.

Steve Spurrier couldn't even cut it in Washington.

2/19/2007 2:34:58 PM

^ there is so much wrong with that statement

the skins were 50-30 under gibbs' last five years. they were 4-12 under petitbon for ONE YEAR. then norv took over and they went 32-47.

so are you saying petitbon somehow took a super bowl team to the shitter in one year and poor old norv couldn't revive them in five more years?

also, "steve spurrier couldn't even cut it" he's done so well everywhere else in the nfl so it must be a problem with washington right?

2/19/2007 2:46:43 PM

Most of Steve Spurriers players couldn't cut it in the NFL either.

2/19/2007 2:51:47 PM

Vikings DC to SD

2/19/2007 4:32:38 PM

^ Opinion or linked somewhere?

2/19/2007 4:34:07 PM

opinion but looking like its a possibility

i wouldnt mind it personally, think its a good hire/fit


may have a link later in the evening

2/19/2007 4:35:54 PM

Turner is .500 in the playoffs, Marty is .278. Turner is clearly the better coach!

2/19/2007 4:58:54 PM

As long as the coordinators are good, they should still be the favorite.

Do they have an OC yet?

2/19/2007 5:11:14 PM

1) Are you surprised by the Chargers' choice of Norv Turner to replace Marty Schottenheimer as head coach?

66.2% Yes
33.8% No

2) Which of these candidates was the best man for the job?

32.9% Ron Rivera (Bears defensive coordinator)
28.5% Rex Ryan (Ravens defensive coordinator)
19.1% Mike Singletary (49ers assistant head coach)
15.3% Norv Turner (former 49ers offensive coordinator)
2.6% Mike Zimmer (Falcons defensive coordinator)
1.6% Gary Gibbs (Saints defensive coordinator)

3) Among those interviewed, Turner was the only one with head-coaching experience. Was that the major deciding factor for the Chargers?

81.0% Yes
19.0% No

4) Is Turner an improvement over Schottenheimer?

89.7% No
10.3% Yes

5) How concerned should Chargers fans be about Turner's 58-82-1 career record and one postseason appearance in nine seasons as a head coach?

64.8% Extremely concerned -- He's had two other opportunities and was largely unsuccessful.
23.3% Mildly concerned -- This team needed a change at the top and Turner will help Philip Rivers progress faster.
11.9% Not at all -- Turner has much more talent this time around and is in a perfect position to succeed.

6) Which is the better hire for the Chargers?

82.4% Ted Cottrell replacing Wade Phillips as defensive coordinator
17.6% Turner replacing Schottenheimer as head coach

7) How many games will the Chargers win in 2007?

42.9% 9-10
39.2% 11-12
10.3% 8 or fewer
7.6% 13 or more

8) Will Turner take the Chargers to the Super Bowl in the next two seasons?

80.1% No
19.9% Yes

Total Votes: 19,202

2/19/2007 5:11:40 PM

hellacious hires

bttt

2/19/2007 11:13:36 PM

what an epic failure

2/20/2007 12:11:09 AM

Quote :

"Everything Chargers do turns to gold 12:08 PM PST on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 GREGG PATTON Six years ago, the bumbling San Diego Chargers gave up the top pick in the NFL draft -- everyone's consensus choice was Michael Vick -- and dropped to fifth, where they took a chance on LaDainian Tomlinson, one of those dime-a-dozen running backs who get overrated every year. The dunderheads did get an undersized, junk-ball throwing quarterback, Drew Brees, in the second round. Three years ago, the morons went ahead and drafted Eli Manning with the No. 1 pick, even though Manning vowed he would never play in San Diego, presumably because the organization was so pathetic. Forced to trade him, the Chargers used their multiple picks that year and the next to acquire sidearm thrower Philip Rivers, place-kicker Nate Kaeding, veteran tackle Roman Oben and linebacker Shawne Merriman. Last winter, after Brees had developed into the perfect quarterback to lead the Chargers' surprisingly diverse offense, the boneheads allowed him to walk away as a free agent, gambling that untested third-year pro Rivers would be up to the task. Now the goofy Chargers have bungled the firing of Coach Marty Schottenheimer. Whether you are a fan of Schottenheimer for leading the team to an NFL-best 14-2 record, or think his postseason failures and the one-and-done loss to New England last month warranted a boot in the pants, you have to admit team president Dean Spanos and general manager A. J. Smith really blew it this time. A month after telling him he could stay, then watching the team's stable of talented assistants depart, and the best outside coaching candidates take jobs elsewhere, the dopey Chargers suddenly find themselves in mid-February searching in the weeds for a new head coach. I suspect this is the final piece of idiocy the franchise needs to get itself over the top. The last pratfall that will lead them to the promised land. Yes, the final misstep in a long line of highly criticized moves that will make the crazy Chargers a Super Bowl team. Me, I'm done calling them names. If the Chargers front office is out to lunch, well, maybe we ought to find out what they're eating and drinking, and order it up. Every time I think they've driven the bus off the bridge, out come the James Bond wings and away they go. The Chargers' plotters and schemers are either the craftiest crew of brilliant thinkers in the NFL, or the luckiest sons of guns to ever throw a dart at a draft chart. Either way, I'm on board. If I don't have anything nice to say about the geniuses in San Diego, I won't say anything at all. Mom would be so proud. If they bring in the great underachiever, Norv Turner, or backslider Dennis Green, to coach, I'll button my lip and marvel at the 15-1 season. If they go with a 27-year-old junior college assistant coach, I'll assume he's the next Tony Dungy. Heck, if they hire Denzel Washington because they liked the job he did with the Titans, it's OK by me. It's pretty obvious by now, the Chargers front office can do no wrong. Maybe the players and coaches can have their airhead moments at the worst time, say, in a postseason game against the Patriots. But the guys upstairs? They've been perfect for six years. Drink a toast to that, 1972 Miami Dolphins. Spanos cited the ongoing "dysfunctional" relationship between Smith and Schottenheimer as the reason he had to let the coach go, as if it were a bad thing. In the same way that dysfunction has fueled every money-making TV reality show, it seemed to work with the Chargers, too. But we can only assume the brass knows best. Its unblemished recent track record should also be great news for Chargers fans who live in fear that the team is moving just as soon as the last bobbled stadium deal falls through or gets voted down. It may look like the Chargers aren't really trying, or may be sabotaging efforts to keep their game in town, but looks, as we've learned, can be deceiving. I don't think they're going to Los Angeles, Anaheim or Las Vegas. I think they're going straight to the Super Bowl. It doesn't matter that there's barely anyone left on the staff that guided them to the best record in history, or that a new coach may tinker poorly with one of the NFL's most talented rosters. The important thing is the front office still has nearly a year to toss in a few more staggeringly deft gambits disguised as colossal gaffes. I can't wait to keep my mouth shut."

2/20/2007 12:13:40 AM

They should have hired mora. WEST COAST OFFENSE BITCHES

2/20/2007 12:15:38 AM

Well, they did get the DC they wanted and even landed Rivera as their LB coach. I'm not a big fan of Norv BUT I am a big fan of them keeping the same offense and allowing Rivers to keep running it instead of having to try to learn something else for once. Hopefully it'll help Rivers out keeping consistency in the offense and their defense will basically be the same.

2/20/2007 12:52:24 AM

lol, I just love it when I see a sports team run itself into the ground. After all the times you see it, you think it will never happen again. But here come the Chargers fucking things all up again. GG guys, way to go from SB favorites, to "lucky to make the playoffs"

Quote :

"Well, they did get the DC they wanted and even landed Rivera as their LB coach."

haha, how do you interview a guy for the head coaching job, who is a GREAT DC, had a great interview, only to not hire him as you HC, nor your DC, and hire him to coach the linebackers? GREAT FUCKING JOB AJ SMITH!

Either way, Rivera is out of there next year to be a head coach somewhere, so I suppose it really didnt matter.

[Edited on February 20, 2007 at 12:55 AM. Reason : .]

2/20/2007 12:52:28 AM

you dont hire him as your DC because he doesn't know how to run a 3-4

2/20/2007 12:59:27 AM