According to a friend of mine at Carolina, there are rumors going around that Tywon Lawson could be suspended or kicked off the team indefinitely for some unnamed violation - he has a pretty good source... it's all over the UNC and Duke message boards - and on insidecarolina, seven threads have already been locked about it

obviously it all could be bs, but it sure would make things interesting if it wasn't - i guess we'll know something tonight

3/1/2007 4:25:58 PM

hmm, what an interesting situation

we can only hope that he will be kicked off the team b4 ACCT time

3/1/2007 4:27:44 PM

3/1/2007 4:28:11 PM

A moderator over at IC called the UNC althletic department where they said that there was no reason why Lawson should not be playing tonight. So if the rumors are not complete BS, then it is doubtful that anything else will be learned before game time.

3/1/2007 4:28:38 PM

What I do know is that Roy Williams has a pretty strict no-tolerance policy for his players and recruits violating team rules/regulations/etcetera

he dumped jameson curry as a recruit the second he found out he was involved with his marijuana situation, and now curry is doing very well out in stillwater

the point is, i don't think williams would hesitate (too much) to pull the trigger on something like this

3/1/2007 4:30:44 PM

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"the point is, i don't think williams would hesitate (too much) to pull the trigger on something like this"

You have a source... that said it was for an unnamed violation... and then you say he wouldn't hesistate to pull the trigger on something like this... without having the first clue of what happened.

YAY for internet rumors!

3/1/2007 4:32:20 PM

dude, don't be a jackass

i mean the source is one of the managers of the JV team over there, so that's why I didn't dismiss it completely at first - and then upon looking into it, there's all sorts of rumors flying around all over the place, and it obviously could be bullshit, like i said it could be - and hell, probably is

i mean stuff like this is the raison d'etre of most sports related message boards in general, so that's what we do, we talk about it

3/1/2007 4:35:42 PM

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"According to a friend of mine at Carolina, there are rumors going around that Tywon Lawson could be suspended or kicked off the team indefinitely for some unnamed violation - he has a pretty good source"

his source is probably someone with premium access to IC, haha. i'm reading it and there's nothing substantial on there

3/1/2007 4:37:11 PM

no credible link? lock this bullshit. This isn't Chit Chat.

3/1/2007 4:38:31 PM

whats funny is given lawson's late game performances lately this might actually hurt them

but not really since UNC is 4-3 since Wes Miller came back

3/1/2007 4:39:55 PM

Because everything we talk about here in sports talk is credible, and properly cited.

3/1/2007 4:40:10 PM

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"but not really since UNC is 4-3 since Wes Miller came back"

Since when did Wes Miller go anywhere?

3/1/2007 4:41:53 PM

He got suspended for a couple of games his senior year at Oak Hill, because myself and some friends go watch Oak Hill games occasionally. We went one time when they were playing some school from Fayetteville or something, and sure enough, he was suspended.

They almost lost that game also.

I don't know what that was for though.

[Edited on March 1, 2007 at 4:44 PM. Reason : ]

3/1/2007 4:43:27 PM

bobby frasor

3/1/2007 4:43:30 PM

I doubt this is anything.

He probably missed practice and Roy will make him sit out 10 minutes of the first half or something.

3/1/2007 4:45:26 PM

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"'there's no reason to believe Lawson won't play tonight.'"

from steve kirschner, the unc sports information director. i agree he was probably just late to a meeting or whatever and won't start, but will play

3/1/2007 4:47:26 PM

well there ya go

i don't like to see any talented young ballplayers squander their careers, even if they are Tar Heels - one sean williams is enough for one year

3/1/2007 4:51:41 PM

he probably forgot to have sex with a man

3/1/2007 10:26:12 PM

maybe he refused the pedicure.

3/1/2007 10:30:55 PM

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"he probably forgot to have sex with a man"

I confirmed this. His boyfriend(s) were PISSED.

3/1/2007 10:47:32 PM

Is it Alex Stepheson?

3/1/2007 11:09:28 PM

i hear he is "unhappy"

3/2/2007 12:04:37 AM

I would be unhappy too if my "pending national champion" team was 4-4 over the last 8 games.

3/2/2007 12:11:00 AM

so no offical reason why he was held out of the game tonight?

Any news about against Duke?

Is there a way for both of them to loose?



I guess go duke by default

3/2/2007 12:26:48 AM

I mean, he played, just didn't start, as I predicted.

95% he starts the duke game.

Roy said he "had a terrible practice," but he probably broke a minor team rule or was late/missed practice and lost his start, and Roy is keeping it in house.

I'll say go duke this time. I always pull for the away team between them, so I can see the sad expressions of the crowd.

[Edited on March 2, 2007 at 12:31 AM. Reason : ]

3/2/2007 12:30:22 AM

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"What I do know is that Roy Williams has a pretty strict no-tolerance policy for his players and recruits violating team rules/regulations/etcetera he dumped jameson curry as a recruit the second he found out he was involved with his marijuana situation, and now curry is doing very well out in stillwater"

no he didn't. he thought about keeping him for a while.

3/2/2007 10:27:22 AM

It wasn't like they had much of a choice, he had multiple felonies and i don't think that any school with any kinda of morals would take him. thats why ok state took him

3/2/2007 10:37:30 AM

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"Since when did Wes Miller go anywhere?"

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"bobby frasor"

i meant bobby frasor

3/2/2007 10:38:10 AM

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"he dumped jameson curry as a recruit the second he found out"

ahahaha no he didn't

3/2/2007 10:38:48 AM

^was it doh who dumped curry or what? i know when curry got busted for selling weed somebody at unc pretty much renegged on his scholarship

3/2/2007 10:44:48 AM

From what i understand, he didnt start b/c he missed a coaches meeting

3/2/2007 10:49:19 AM

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"It wasn't like they had much of a choice, he had multiple felonies and i don't think that any school with any kinda of morals would take him. thats why ok state took him"

??? I thought he was CHARGED with a felony (sort of like Shelden Williams), but wasn't convicted (though I think ALL charges against Shelden were dropped and Curry still had a few misdemeanors).

In any case, I don't have a problem with a school giving a second chance to players. Georgetown with AI, UConn with Caron Butler, and OK State with Curry. Those players have taken full advantage of their opportunity. Hell, Butler was a cokehead in high school and turned himself around to the point he is one of bright spots off the court of the NBA and will have his college degree in less than a year..

.... and I knew this thread was bullshit regardless. Things that 'break' on the Internet are rarely, if ever, correct... no matter how many 'sources' some random has..


V Duke is a terrible match for UNC. They lose to crazy athletic teams like VT, UMd, or GT but not to slow, prodding unathletic teams like Duke. They'll be a final four team still imo..

[Edited on March 2, 2007 at 11:29 AM. Reason : watch]

3/2/2007 11:23:57 AM

my two cents on this:

whatever, doesnt matter because they are going to lose to Duke, in the first round of the ACC

get a 3 or 4 seed and get blown out by a midmajor in the first or second round of the big dance

then everyone can declare for the draft

3/2/2007 11:28:10 AM

how many more straight games does carolina have to lose for people to realize they're overrated

3/2/2007 12:43:10 PM

none, i think its pretty much fact now

3/2/2007 12:43:49 PM

Let UNC stay overrated ! They will lose more players to the NBA with the more hype they get!

3/2/2007 12:46:05 PM

i'd rather them be one-and-done in both tourneys and all get injured in a helicopter wreck

3/2/2007 12:49:59 PM

^Im sure such a thing could be arranged.... with a few good men.....

3/2/2007 12:55:21 PM

Davey Allison style

get caught in the power lines

pwnt!

3/2/2007 12:56:06 PM

speaking of which some school i hadnt heard of (probably d1aa or d2 or d3) had some bad bus wreck last night...6 people died and a couple dozen injured...4 students dead i think...dont know the details heard about it on the radio

3/2/2007 12:57:17 PM

yeah it is on ESPNs front page

sad stuff

3/2/2007 12:59:27 PM

Bluffton College Baseball Team in Ohio. Bus did a header off a ramp onto the road below, 6 people died.

3/2/2007 1:01:31 PM

it was a pretty disgusting scene...I drive that stretch of 75 to go to work (opposite direction from accident). I hadn't heard about it until I was in my car on the road. at first all they were reporting was a college team bus had crashed - made me think something happened to UNC on the way back last night. They had about 10 miles of the interstate southbound shut down completely. it was a creepy thing to see this bus in the highway and cops at the overpass where it flew off.

3/2/2007 1:21:06 PM

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" he dumped jameson curry as a recruit the second he found out he was involved with his marijuana situation"

As others have noted, he def considered keeping him at first.

Also, you mentioned marijuana but he was also charged with selling cocaine

3/2/2007 4:04:53 PM

I would think every coach would "think" about keeping a recruit like Currry but depending on the program they would ultimately let him walk

Roy is the one that contacted OSU about Curry to help him get another chance somewhere else

he wouldnt have been able to get away from it staying in NC, i hope the guy keeps his act straight

3/2/2007 4:10:54 PM

i thought curry sold weed to a cop / cops at school? are you confusing him with danny green's dad? or am i just off?

3/2/2007 4:14:44 PM

they had like a 6 month sting operation at the school to catch people

he wasnt the only one to get caught

^ and i just realized you must not have been talking to me

they need to do the same at North Johnston

[Edited on March 2, 2007 at 4:17 PM. Reason : >.<]

3/2/2007 4:16:47 PM

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"Also, you mentioned marijuana but he was also charged with selling cocaine"

No. And if he was initially charged with it, nothing ever came of it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35202-2005Mar14.html

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"Inside it, Curry found a handwritten letter on Tar Heel stationary bearing the signature of none other than North Carolina basketball coach Roy Williams, who had revoked Curry's basketball scholarship after he pled guilty to six felony drug counts in April 2004 for selling marijuana to an undercover police officer posing as a student at Eastern Alamance High School."

I was, however, admittedly off on the situation leading up to Curry's dismissal
[link]http://media.http://www.dailytarheel.com/media/storage/paper885/news/2004/04/08/Sports/Curry.Denied.Spot.On.Roster-1358825.shtml[/link/

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""This has been a very difficult time for JamesOn and his family and also for our basketball program," said UNC coach Roy Williams in a statement. "He is a nice young man, but one who made some very serious mistakes. We felt we needed to let the legal process take place over the last few months, and now it has.""

Once they figured out that the damage to the reputation of school's recruiting policy would be too great, they let him go - I imagine he probably would've had a very tough road to hoe playing in North Carolina as well. I still think if you even consider that Roy Williams would've seriously kept him on long-term once he realized the aforementioned implications of the whole ordeal, you're nuts. I think he let the process run with options open as long as possible as a favor to JamesOn, with the 1 in ___ outside possibility that the whole thing would blow over and Curry would be cleared - as has been mentioned in this thread, Williams was the one who put in the call to Sutton and Co. at Oklahoma State to get James a fresh start.

3/2/2007 5:37:32 PM

hmmm

There was definitely cocaine involved.

I cant remember the exact details.

Maybe they were in the plea or maybe he jsut never got charged but i know he was definitely selling coke. I mean think about it, its Mebane for gods sake.

3/2/2007 5:58:05 PM

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"whatever, doesnt matter because they are going to lose to Duke, in the first round of the ACC"

We won't even play Duke in the 1st round.

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"then everyone can declare for the draft"

Who exactly does "everyone" refer to? The only guy who is likely to leave is Wright.

3/2/2007 6:17:40 PM