ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
54th Annual ACC Men's Basketball Tournament Round 1
#10 NC State (15-14, 5-11) vs. #7 Duke (22-9, 8-8)
Well, at the beginning of the season, most thought that NC State would end up playing on Thursday. That prediction was correct, although very few people thought that Duke would play on Thursday, let alone be seeded 7th. In the first and only match up between Duke and NC State during the regular season, Duke came in to the RBC Center and won easily, 79-56. Yet, Duke will be without Henderson, who scored 8 of Duke's points in the only regular season matchup. (Averages 6.5 PPG) After Duke losing to UNC, who knows just exactly what will happen.
Duke regular season results: 11/12 Columbia W 86-43 11/13 G Southern W 72-48 11/16 UNC Greensboro W 75-48 11/20 Air Force W 71-56 11/21 #17 Marquette L 73-62 11/25 Davidson W 75-47 11/28 Indiana W 54-51 12/02 #23 G'town W 61-52 12/06 Holy Cross W 57-45 12/09 G Mason W 69-53 12/19 Kent St W 79-72 12/21 at #24 Gonzaga W 61-54 12/31 San Jose St W 70-51 01/02 Temple W 73-55 01/06 Va Tech L 69-67 01/10 at Ga Tech L 74-63 01/14 at Miami W 85-63 01/18 W Forest W 62-40 01/20 at NC State W 79-56 01/25 #17 Clemson W 68-66 01/28 BC W 75-61 02/01 at Virginia L 68-66 02/04 Florida St L 68-67 02/07 #5 UNC L 79-73 02/11 at Maryland L 72-60 02/14 at #21 BC W 78-70 02/18 Ga Tech W 71-62 02/22 at Clemson W 71-66 02/25 at St John's W 67-50 02/28 Maryland L 85-77 03/04 at #8 UNC L 86-72
Previous Meetings Duke 79 NC State 56
Duke Leaders: DeMarcus Nelson 14.2 PPG Josh McRoberts 7.7 RPG Greg Paulus 3.8 APG
Winner moves on to Friday to play Virginia @ 7pm
Game 3 of the ACC Tournament - Round 1: Thursday, March 8th - 7:00pm - Tampa, Florida
TV: ESPN2HD ( TWC )
One can only hope there is some magic in the air.
GO STATE! ]3/4/2007 10:16:22 PM |
cheezcurd All American 1914 Posts user info edit post |
WOLFPACK!
hopefully I can pick this up on AM in Linville, somehow
[Edited on March 4, 2007 at 10:18 PM. Reason : ;] 3/4/2007 10:18:06 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
here's to hoping sidney can get em up for the tourney. 3/4/2007 10:21:35 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
red blazer ftw 3/4/2007 10:22:23 PM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
GO PACK, looking forward to it! 3/4/2007 10:58:47 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
63-62 NC State 3/4/2007 11:06:09 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
red blazer all the way 3/4/2007 11:07:11 PM |
FatTony All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
Do you believe? 75-62 State. 3/4/2007 11:09:27 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Our guys need to calm down and realize we match up at every position. 3/4/2007 11:24:08 PM |
badboyben All American 7631 Posts user info edit post |
Raycom is suppose to show the whole tournament in HD. I would imagine it would be in HD on WRAL. 3/4/2007 11:26:08 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
I'll be there, anything could happen depending on which NC State shows up. 3/4/2007 11:33:46 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
Aww man 3/4/2007 11:41:50 PM |
state2285 All American 558 Posts user info edit post |
just hoping that a different team shows up for this game, rather than the one who showed up for the first match-up earlier this season 3/4/2007 11:46:42 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on March 4, 2007 at 11:49 PM. Reason : ] 3/4/2007 11:48:56 PM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
state makes a run and beats duke and virginia and loses to VT... 3/4/2007 11:51:37 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
we could beat duke
but we won't beat UVA
but we would beat VT 3/4/2007 11:53:57 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Well, if we have to lose, Losing to VT in the semifinals isn't a bad way to go.
Because we know that Carolina won't win at least. 3/4/2007 11:54:33 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
After the last game I really doubt we can win this one
The last game against Duke, I mean
[Edited on March 4, 2007 at 11:56 PM. Reason : .] 3/4/2007 11:55:52 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
you didn't really need to qualify that 3/5/2007 12:04:46 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Everyone picks us to win?
Have any of you been watching these games? Against Maryland or FSU we didn't even give a flying fuck. 3/5/2007 12:09:08 AM |
state2285 All American 558 Posts user info edit post |
^this is the ACCT, maybe we'll start giving a fuck 3/5/2007 12:10:15 AM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62457 Posts user info edit post |
I would say State has about a 15% chance of victory
but
the women had 5% saturday, and they made it count 3/5/2007 2:02:43 AM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
We have way better than a 15% chance to win.
I'd say 30% is more realistic.
We need to win this game to make up for our poor performance in the 2nd half of the ACC reg. season. 3/5/2007 2:40:14 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not one for superstition... but we've all seen the coincidences. 3/5/2007 2:42:08 AM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Raycom is suppose to show the whole tournament in HD. I would imagine it would be in HD on WRAL." |
only espn2 for the 7:00 game3/5/2007 7:11:08 AM |
Fermata All American 3771 Posts user info edit post |
Coincidences?
Is Whittenburg coming back from an injury? There is no coincidence. 3/5/2007 7:13:27 AM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
#7 in the acc and still top 20. thats a mean conference right there. i cant wait to see these games, jesus christ~ 3/5/2007 7:45:27 AM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
if there was a single team i was hoping we wouldnt have to play, it was duke.
for some reason, we just never play them well. 3/5/2007 8:21:02 AM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
well, if anyone can show them what can happen in the ACCT, it's Sid. 3/5/2007 8:55:59 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "#7 in the acc and still top 20." |
, what are the top six teams in the ACC ranked?
#1: UNC (8th) #1: UVA (25th) #3: Maryland #3: VT (21st) #3: BC #6: GT #6: Duke (14th)
[Edited on March 5, 2007 at 9:06 AM. Reason : Tied for 6th by my count]3/5/2007 9:01:12 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
excuse me... i'm going to be a snarky nc state fan for a minute...
we really got the best of both worlds on sunday, Hansbrough got bloodied and a duke player is suspended for our game... not a starter, but still, it reduces their depth some... 3/5/2007 9:08:50 AM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "#7 in the acc and still top 20" |
That ranking is purely off of name. If we had their record and the same wins and same losses we wouldn't be anywhere near the Top 25.3/5/2007 11:07:03 AM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
Over Rated
This game might actually be fun. 3/5/2007 11:09:58 AM |
FitchNCSU All American 3283 Posts user info edit post |
I may have to drive up to Tampa for this one.
It will be worth the 4 and a half hour drive 3/5/2007 11:27:45 AM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
i guess name is built into the rpi ratings too. we will turn the ball over too much with our lazy passes. when we play a team with good interior defense we rely heavily on great passing and perimeter play to win so when we play a team that has good interior defense and overplays the wings we lose. @unc maryland x2 and duke. the biggest headline coming off our win over unc was why didn't roy press. 3/5/2007 1:17:44 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Duke has a good resume. Definitely Top 30 and borderline Top 25 (especially since they have a good record against Top 50 teams but they are mostly lower end Top 50 teams), but the RPI is still a bit flawed. I made the same argument last year about the computer rankings for basketball (football is totally different).
The rankings take into account the 175-250 games strongly over the 250-336 games. The reality is that any team in the Top 75 will EASILY destroy the 175-250 teams 99.99% of the time they would the 250-336 teams. Duke does a good job scheduling no one lower than 250, whereas teams like us schedule some 250-336 teams. There isn't much difference in real life b/t those category of teams on the court but to the computers there is a huge difference.
If you watch a lot of basketball and come to the conclusion that Duke is a Top 10 team (like thier RPI) this year you are completely out of your mind..
I think this is the best case for us. We just need to play with intensity and use our strengths over their weaknesses. That is make sure Grant and Fells get the freedom to create against Duke's unathletic backcourt. With the threat of Atsur there they should get much more freedom to create. Neither team is particularly deep (Duke has 4 players average 30 minutes they said yesterday) so I'm not worried about getting run off the court or worn down by 40 minutes of pressing like I would be by GTech.
[Edited on March 5, 2007 at 1:27 PM. Reason : duke is 21, maryland is 20.. kind of funny that they are that close since UMd is CLEARLY better] 3/5/2007 1:24:12 PM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
unathletic backcourt? paulus will be on atsur. grant and fells won't see him for the most part unlesss the lineup is them with horner costner and mccauley on the floor.
mccauley and grant won't be a factor. costner will have a favorable matchup when thomas isn't in the game and will lead state in scoring. fells and atsur are going to have to step up with huge games for state to win. 3/5/2007 1:41:17 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "unathletic backcourt? paulus will be on atsur" |
yeah, prbly the most unathletic back court in the nation behind NCSU3/5/2007 1:43:20 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Atsur isn't terribly athletic but he is a smarter player at this point than Paulus.
Both Grant and Fells are more athletic than Scheyer by a wide margin.. but he is a smart player for a freshman. Whichever player Scheyer is on will have huge a matchup advantage.. it's just up to Atsur to get them the ball in the right places (i.e.- not in the corners where they can get trapped).
Obviously Nelson at the 3 is very athetic but the loss of Henderson really does hurt Duke. They lose their second most athletic/explosive player and a guy who always play hard and has the athleticism to be a nightmare..
I think Duke will probably end up winning by 2 or 3 in this one but I'll hold out on my prediction for now. I nailed the UNC-Duke game (well off by 1 point) so I'm feeling pretty good... 3/5/2007 1:50:22 PM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
here we go again. every year people on the street talk about how dukes backcourt isn't athletic dating all the way back to duhon and ewing. paulus yes but nelson is insanely athletic and scheyer isn't the most athletic guy out there but you wouldn't call him unathletic.
and wtf are you talking about behind ncsu? fells and grant are two of the most athletic players in the nation.
then i realize its guns and he's a trickster anyway.
[Edited on March 5, 2007 at 1:54 PM. Reason : ^duke by 8] 3/5/2007 1:53:35 PM |
Deshman007 All American 3245 Posts user info edit post |
go pack! 3/5/2007 3:02:55 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "fells and grant are two of the most athletic players in the nation" |
at turnovers, yes
[Edited on March 5, 2007 at 4:21 PM. Reason : sdfs]3/5/2007 4:21:51 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Playmakers at 5:30
then staying to watch UT lose to LSU 3/5/2007 4:24:01 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^was UT that good v Florida last week, or was Florida that bad? 3/5/2007 4:30:54 PM |
PackMan03 All American 4594 Posts user info edit post |
nm
[Edited on March 5, 2007 at 6:27 PM. Reason : .] 3/5/2007 6:26:58 PM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
Go PACK! 3/6/2007 10:06:29 AM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
A State win would be a great way to celebrate my bday. 3/6/2007 11:02:29 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
additional broadcast schedule
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/acc/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/rlf07tourneythursday.pdf 3/6/2007 11:14:24 AM |
babyface Veteran 354 Posts user info edit post |
Duke ALWAYS does well in the ACC tournament.
Doesn't matter if half the players have the flu or gonorrhea... they still find a way to win 3/6/2007 11:21:59 AM |
FatTony All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
bttt 3/7/2007 9:51:13 AM |