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http://www.charlotte.com/217/story/41307.html

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"OUTBURST IN COURT Mental tests set for UNC suspect Man accused of injuring 9 with SUV on campus Associated Press HILLSBOROUGH --A man accused of driving an SUV into a crowded plaza at UNC Chapel Hill, injuring nine people, was sent for a mental evaluation Monday after an outburst in court. During a hearing about letters he wrote to a judge, Mohammed Taheri-Azar turned to the gallery and said, "Everybody, I hate all Americans and all Jews." Taheri-Azar, 23, also asked the name of the judge and said to his attorney: "Who is this fool? Who is this moron? I don't know who this moron is." Within seconds he was led out of court and the proceedings finished without him. Superior Court Judge Ken Titus agreed to move Taheri-Azar to Dorothea Dix Hospital for assessment. He had been held at Raleigh's Central Prison on $5.5 million bail. In January, Taheri-Azar, a native of Iran who grew up near Charlotte, pleaded not guilty to nine counts of attempted first-degree murder and another nine counts of felony assault. No one was seriously injured March 3, 2006, when the SUV was driven into a UNC plaza. In a call to emergency dispatchers, Taheri-Azar said he wanted to punish the U.S. government and later told investigators he wanted to "avenge the deaths of Muslims around the world." After Monday's court session, Public Defender James Williams said his client "has a severe mental illness" that had affected his actions in court and on the day he drove through campus. Williams questions his client's ability to participate in his defense. If a judge finds Taheri-Azar incompetent, his case could be delayed until he is judged competent. But it's too early to assume incompetence, said Orange-Chatham District Attorney Jim Woodall. "All indications, frankly, are that he is competent," he said. "He seemed to be voicing his position. I think that's what throws people off. He's just expressing opinions that most of us would disagree with." In recent months, Taheri-Azar had appeared in court clean-shaven and composed, wearing sport coats and trousers. On Monday he entered the courthouse with a beard, wearing an orange jumpsuit with his arms, waist and legs chained. "What the (expletive) is this (expletive)?" he asked as he entered the courtroom. To Laila Taheri, her brother's outburst shows his mental instability. To his family, there's the "normal" Ray, the name close friends and family call him, and then there is the "other" Ray. "Normal" Ray smiles lovingly at his sisters and parents in court. He writes poems. He regrets driving onto the UNC campus. The "other" Ray still struggles with extreme religious views his family says he picked up from a family friend in recent years. He thinks he did what he had to for Allah. "One minute he's Ray, our brother," Taheri told The News & Observer of Raleigh. "He's kind and sweet and everything. And the next, he doesn't know who we are and who he is. ... He can't tell the difference between who he is and who he was." The Taheri-Azars moved from Iran when Ray was 2, his sister said. Taheri-Azar, a U.S. citizen, grew up in Charlotte. He was raised in a largely secular household, sometimes attending Baptist church. But after moving to Chapel Hill to attend UNC, a family friend exposed Taheri-Azar to Islamic beliefs that the family thinks bordered on extreme. "

So this guy drives a vehicle through a student area and his lawyer says he needs more mental tests...do we really need Dorothea Dix to tell us this dude is not right in the head? And will his lawyer somehow convince the courts that because he is not right in the head, he should be found not guilty? I don't know but this guy clearly seems like he's got some problems and should be locked up...maybe some of the cats in jail will teach him a less radical version of Islam

3/6/2007 10:59:53 AM

I don't think he's "not right in the head." His family claims he's a normal, nice guy who "changes" into this new guy, who happens to be a violent hater of Americans and Jews...LOL.

He's obviously guilty. And the only reason for pleading not guilty is to get the excitement and attention of the spectacle of a trial. I doubt he'll get off on the insanity defense. (People are getting tired of that shit.)

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 11:43 AM. Reason : sss]

3/6/2007 11:43:02 AM

Just cause one person actually drives his car through the pit at UNC and tries to run people over he is crazy??? I believe any mentally stable person thinks that idea up atleast once a day.

3/6/2007 11:44:57 AM

muslims like this dude are mentally unstable.

3/6/2007 11:47:52 AM

Are we getting to the point of complete denial of the threat to this country?
Radical islam, the enemy who hates us and wants us dead, just needs a little professional psychiatric care?

3/6/2007 11:54:07 AM

^exactly...maybe he had his feelings hurt once as a child...therefore we should coddle him in every way possible

fuck all that "be responsible for your own actions" garbage

3/6/2007 11:54:50 AM

It's not just "radical Islam." It is Islam.

3/6/2007 11:54:52 AM

3/6/2007 11:59:13 AM

but anyway

shouldnt his act of driving an SUV into a crowded gathering place / group of people and his comments about hating and wanting all Americans and Jews dead be sufficient evaluation of his sanity? Or at least his responsibility

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 12:00 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 12:00:19 PM

He's clearly fucked up...at the same time, I don't have a lot of a problem with him being in prison.

3/6/2007 12:02:33 PM

I don't have a problem with him being in prison either...I think they should lock him up

3/6/2007 12:08:04 PM

send him to gitmo for some "treatment"

3/6/2007 12:12:59 PM

So what's the rule on insanity in NC? Does he just have to be crazy or does he also have to know right from wrong?

Cause I'm betting he knew right from wrong and did it anyway, which is what differentiates him from the rest of us who have ever fantasized about terrorizing others (I fantasize about running cars off the road.)

3/6/2007 12:13:49 PM

This guy's "craziness" is starting to make me feel......normal

3/6/2007 12:40:07 PM

I think people should curse more in court.

3/6/2007 1:13:09 PM

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"It's not just "radical Islam." It is Islam."

So why is this guy getting so much attention and why haven't there been 5 million cases in the US of rampaging SUV weilding muslims running amuck at our local colleges?

3/6/2007 1:23:00 PM

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" It is Islam."

Then why are there hundreds of millions of Muslims who are nice, law abiding people who are not much different than you and me? If that "is Islam" why isn't there a billion man march to kill every non-muslim on the planet?

Because you have no idea what you're talking about.

3/6/2007 1:53:51 PM

I actually watched this really cool thing on CSPAN early one morning where the folks at Gallup had a conference on their findings about the differences between high-conflict Muslims and no-conflict Muslims. Thy focused on Muslims, but they really didn't find any connection between Islam and terrorism. In fact, the high-conflict group is actually less devout than the no-conflict group. High-conflict group had more wealth than the no-conflict group so, while others were watching after their basic needs, the high-conflict group has the time to get together and discuss the things they're unhappy with.

Both groups said they admired the freedoms we have in America. And the biggest complaint of both groups is that they feel humiliated and disrespected that the West doesn't seem to take them seriously. Their sense of honor and desire to protect that honor is much stronger than ours. I mean, here in America, we have this idea of "laughing all the way to the bank." In other places, it's more of a "stop laughing at me!" type deal.

3/6/2007 2:28:12 PM

haha

So Militant Muslims

are like the Columbine kids on a larger scale.

I dig it.

3/6/2007 2:57:23 PM

FFS.

HE DROVE AN SUV INTO A CROWD OF PEOPLE HOPING TO KILL THEM.

THERE'S NO FIX FOR CRAZY/STUPID. EITHER LOCK HIM UP OR EXECUTE HIM.

NEXT CASE.

3/6/2007 3:07:54 PM

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"Thy focused on Muslims, but they really didn't find any connection between Islam and terrorism. "

Is that like the connection between Nick Berg's head and his body?

CPAN should interview some muslim terrorists..you know the ones actually trying to kill us. They could split them into "highly-murderous" and "moderately-murderous". The West doesn't take them seriously? I stopped laughing at them after the USS Cole was attacked by them.

3/6/2007 4:06:23 PM

I think it's radical SUVs.

3/6/2007 4:26:34 PM

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"CPAN should interview some muslim terrorists..you know the ones actually trying to kill us."

This wasn't a CSPAN poll. This was a poll done by Gallup with thousands of participants in 14 countries.

And they did poll terrorists (high-conflict Muslims) and non-terrorists (no-conflict Muslims).

3/6/2007 4:55:27 PM

^
I bet the marines would've liked to go along with CSPAN when they were going to interview the "high-conflict" terrorists.

3/6/2007 5:02:08 PM

I bet the marines would've liked to go along with CSPANGallup when they were going to interview the "high-conflict" terrorists.

3/6/2007 5:03:53 PM

The problem comes when you have sociologists with pre-concieved agendas trying to interpret the statistics and responses from these polls.

Nevertheless I would be interested in seeing what the poll asked and the responses.

3/6/2007 5:05:42 PM

Gallup was probably like "for the virgins in heaven" huh? i guess i can include that with the "social injustice" category?

3/6/2007 5:09:15 PM

gallup is SOOOO liberal.

3/6/2007 5:16:25 PM

that poll sounds SOOOOOOOO reliable

3/6/2007 5:22:05 PM

i didnt realize you were qualified to question the validity of a poll which was only mentioned, and about which you know zero actual details.

3/6/2007 5:39:20 PM

i didnt realize you were qualified to defend the validity of a poll which was only mentioned, and about which you know zero actual details.

HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE VALIDITY OF A POLL THAT ADMITS TO QUESTIONING "TERRORIST MUSLIMS" AND "NON-TERRORIST MUSLIMS"

THAT POLL IS SURELY A PRIME EXAMPLE OF STATISTICAL BRILLIANCE

WHAT IN THE HELL GIVES YOU THE QUALIFICATIONS TO DARE QUESTION A POLL, HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 5:51 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 5:47:17 PM

prison

3/6/2007 7:05:52 PM

this guy is obviously guilty and should go to prison, and if you ask me, is trying to act insane in court so that he can get away with.

but hey, if he does get away with it... it balances out with people being locked up without charge or trial and then suddenly being released after 5 years without explanation or apology.

sometimes two worngs can make a right, i guess.

3/6/2007 8:32:43 PM

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"i didnt realize you were qualified to question the validity of a poll which was only mentioned, and about which you know zero actual details."

He disagrees with the results. Isn't that enough reason for anyone?

3/6/2007 9:11:24 PM

0EPII1... how the heck would this guy going free help anything?

3/6/2007 10:31:06 PM

because OEP is anti-America

3/6/2007 10:52:04 PM

it was sarcasm.

3/6/2007 11:10:05 PM

This thread was a really lame attempt at trolling.

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 11:53 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 11:52:55 PM

Well, considering who started it...

3/6/2007 11:54:15 PM

but if i had bttt'd one of the other threads about this incident (if they werent all > 90 days) would it still be a lame attempt at trolling?

^^good thing you really made a difference

3/7/2007 9:57:57 AM

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"The problem comes when you have sociologists with pre-concieved agendas trying to interpret the statistics and responses from these polls."

The one lady I watched who was presenting the data kept referring to the fact that the data was very surprising. They had thought unemployment would be an issue, for example, and it wasn't. And at the end, she made this lame attempt to explain the data using like three social theories, but she was like, "We don't know. We'd hope you have some ideas." And then all the people who were there just to say they'd been there continued finishing their lunches, and the people who wanted to seem smart asked leading/loaded questions, and the people who were genuinely interested asked complex questions that she couldn't answer.

I watched the shit for, like, two hours, and it was a Muslim lady presenting the data, and every once in a while, I'd be like, "Oh, sure... " just cause she was Muslim, and I had a recent bias against Muslim authorities after I heard one of them call 9/11 a "mistake." But, by the end, I was with it.

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"Nevertheless I would be interested in seeing what the poll asked and the responses."

I've been looking for it. I'm checking Gallup next, but they make you pay sometimes (fuck Gallup!).

The last time they attempted to do this was in 2000 or 2002, I can't remember. And the poll was incomplete. Supposedly, they'll be performing this poll yearly now to see if there are any changes, particularly if actions by the West change anything.

3/7/2007 10:22:14 AM

This guy tried to join my friend's fraternity at UNC. He was not religious in the least and they would not let him join because he was too coked out to be a frat guy.

I do not think you can go from druggie to radical militant in less than 2 years. I guarantee he did too many drugs one night and fried his brain.

3/7/2007 11:33:20 AM

He does enjoy a good popped collar, I see.

3/7/2007 1:07:42 PM

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"too coked out to be a frat guy."

must have been pretty coked out

3/7/2007 8:20:42 PM