Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
God bless, I hate Chapel Hill and the Tar Heels more than life itself.
seriously.
Quote : | "Why Tyler should leave
By Eddy Landreth Tyler Hansbrough should turn pro after the season ends for the sake of his own safety. The Atlantic Coast Conference and its officials have failed him.
They have done this young man who has performed so much for the league in the last two years a great disservice by allowing one team after the other this season, from the first game forward, to hack and hammer Hansbrough unmercifully every time he touches the ball.
If the league cares no more about the safety of its players than this, why should they hang around and make the ACC and its school millions of dollars?
The players should be the one cashing the checks.
What occurred on Sunday, when Gerald Henderson of Duke slammed a forearm into Hansbrough's face and knocked him to the floor, is the culmination of a season of abuse.
Hansbrough now has a fractured nose and some tooth damage.
In 20 years of sports writing and a lifetime of watching basketball, I have only witnessed Shaquille O'Neal and Eric Montross take this kind of consistent punishment.
And it is no coincidence that Montross is remembered as much for the blood streaming off his head in a game against Duke as for his stellar play and a national title at Carolina.
If the ACC can clean up its act and protect its players, perhaps Hansbrough could stay and develop his game. Otherwise, he will be risking life, limb and his career to hang around college basketball any longer.
The game has become a joke. The fact is basketball at every level has become a farce.
Basketball was never meant to be a form of boxing or wrestling.
Oh, there has always been some contact beneath the boards, and to some degree that is OK. It's part of the game, but what is occurring these days is out of control.
What's truly unfortunate is that it filters down.
I can recall coaching little kids and literally begging recreation department officials to have the referees call fouls. Instead they continued to allow the kids to pound on one another.
When that happens, a coach has no alternative other than to teach his players how to play the game physically in order to compete.
Perhaps nothing about this game angers me more than seeing a ref call a touch foul on the perimeter, because that's easy, and then turn around and let some tall guy in the middle get brutalized.
We can only surmise officials and the league believe the big guys can withstand it.
Well, here is a truth. Big guys' bones break the same as the guys on the perimeter. Their heads crack open the same as the ones on the perimeter. The truly horrible thing about Sunday is Hansbrough sustained more than one injury on two different cheap shots.
He got popped in the face earlier in the game and may eventually require a root canal to repair a tooth. When Henderson hammered him, a fracture in Hansbrough's nose was the least of what could have happened. What if he had hit the court head-first? He could have sustained a career-ending injury. He might have suffered a concussion.
Yet here is what Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski said the real travesty was: "The person who it is most unfortunate for is G. The main thing is for Gerald's reputation. He's not that kind of player. These kids don't have long careers, and you never want an incident to soil or taint someone's reputation."
For heaven's sake, you have to be kidding.
When Krzyzewski came to the press room on Sunday and blamed Roy Williams for having Hansbrough in the game, one wouldn't think it could get worse. But that ridiculous statement managed to surpass Sunday's ignorant rant.
Krzyzewski has yet to show any genuine concern for Hansbrough, and that may be because Hansbrough has kicked Duke's butt in three of the four games he's played against the Blue Devils since coming to Chapel Hill.
Just listen to this statement and think about it for a moment.
"It's unfortunate that that kid got hurt," Krzyzewski said.
That kid? That kid has a name.
Tyler Hansbrough.
He's an All-American, twice All-ACC player, admirable for his ability to take the beatings and maintain his composure. He's been a credit to his school and his conference.
Yet the best K can do is call him "that kid."
Good Lord. Maybe they should suspend Krzyzewski for displaying a level of ignorance an otherwise intelligence person should never display. I've never made any secret of my admiration for Krzyzewski. I've said time and again, in print, that he and Dean Smith are two of the smartest people I've ever known.
But, after what I witnessed in the last few days, my respect for Krzyzewski has dropped immensely.
Mike talks a good game about relationships and people, but, no matter what one of his players does, he never fails to rationalize it and find justification for it. This time he topped himself by blaming Roy Williams and saying the harm is to Henderson.
Krzyzewski had his starters in. He was still calling timeouts. He was trying to win the game.
Williams actually had a substitute at the scorer's table ready to enter the game for Hansbrough, who couldn't come out while he was shooting free throws.
Truth is, that doesn't really matter. Henderson flung himself across the lane, leading with his forearm. I've never seen anyone grab a rebound with a forearm.
Remember back just a few years ago during an altercation at the Smith Center when Duke reserve Andre Buckner came running off the bench after then-UNC coach Matt Doherty. The next day Krzyzewski tried to award Bucker the Nobel Peace Prize by calling him a "peacemaker." Krzyzewski has exposed himself as one of the great hypocrites in sport.
He talks about the kids, but his talk is cheap and tawdry after what we witnessed this time.
As for the ACC, only the conference office and its officials are more to blame than Krzyzewski.
Had they blown their whistles more often this year and let it be known that brutal play would not be tolerated, Hansbrough might not have a broken nose today.
But the accepted strategy has become to beat Hansbrough as much as possible, because opposing coaches know the officials are only going to call so many fouls.
Duke school officials, and what Dean Smith once called "the esteemed Duke faculty," should be ashamed of Krzyzewski's behavior through all of this. He has become an example of why it is so dangerous for any human being never to hear the word "no."
The ACC should be ashamed of itself for not protecting its most prized assets: its players.
Either clean it up or petition the NBA to let these guys go pro right out of high school again. At least they could bank several million for whatever punishment they may endure.
The whole affair is disgusting and shameful, and that would be the case no matter which teams were playing and no matter which kid took the beating. It's just plain wrong.
Oh, one more thing.
What do you think Krzyzewski would have said if Josh McRoberts had suffered a broken nose from an opponent flying across the lane, forearm first?
Everyone knows the answer.
Eddy Landreth can be reached at chnsports@nando.com" |
3/8/2007 10:41:53 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
ahahahahaha
what a pussy. 3/8/2007 10:43:34 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
its people like Eddy Landreth that reaffirm all my hate of UNC's fanbase 3/8/2007 10:44:53 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
ahahahahaha
what a pussy. 3/8/2007 10:45:00 AM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ahahahahaha
what a pussy.
" |
3/8/2007 10:45:08 AM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
He can dish it out but he sure can't take it. 3/8/2007 10:46:16 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
i sent Eddy this email btw
Quote : | "RE: "Why Tyler should leave"
Eddy:
Great article…I just wanted to add one thing…aside from Shaq and Eric Montross, the only other players who have been exposed to as much physical abuse in the college game are the people who try to guard Hansbrough and get a barrage of elbows and shoulder plows every play. I haven’t seen a player who gets away with that many offensive fouls since Sean May. Thanks and keep up the good work " | ]3/8/2007 10:48:27 AM |
pocketduces All American 1861 Posts user info edit post |
Let's reaim this tread
"Why Tyler should actually leave the ACC"
1) Hickson is going to own his ass next year 3/8/2007 10:49:56 AM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
Why Tyler Should Leave
Reason 1 of 1: Millions of dollars. Fuck everything else. 3/8/2007 10:49:58 AM |
jamz0r All American 1612 Posts user info edit post |
Last time I check, this is why you rest your starters at the end of games.
I wonder what this guy said about the "punch" at Costner 3/8/2007 10:50:20 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
this is also why you kick the ball out to a guard with 14 seconds left and a 12 point lead, not go up for a dunk.
He deserved it. 3/8/2007 10:51:25 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
if UNC was up on us in football by like 21 points and there was 1 minute left in the 4th quarter...and they were throwing the ball...the QB deserves a late hit 3/8/2007 10:56:22 AM |
PimpinHonda All American 4331 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Why Tyler should actually leave the ACC"
1) Hickson is going to own his ass next year " |
McCauley and Costner are going to be up there as well
FUCK UNC3/8/2007 11:05:04 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
IMAGINE HOW MANY MORE TITLES UNC WOULD HAVE IF JORDAN HAD STAYED IN 83
WHATS THAT JORDAN WAS THERE IN 83 WHEN STATE WON THE TITLE OH MY BAD 3/8/2007 11:08:50 AM |
scooterncst8 Veteran 373 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I've never seen anyone grab a rebound with a forearm." |
Usually the rebound doesn't start until after the attempted shot.3/8/2007 11:13:06 AM |
snowman All American 4751 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this is also why you kick the ball out to a guard with 14 seconds left and a 12 point lead, not go up for a dunk.
He deserved it." |
dont be so fucking ignorant...if costner puts one up like that on duke tonight with 10 seconds left up by 12 you're gonna be like "duurrr fuck yeah!!!!"3/8/2007 11:16:36 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
^^Haha, yeah he was if anything trying to block a shot (even though the ball was knocked away right before Hansbrough was about to go up), not grab a rebound. And this guy says he knows basketball and has watched it for 20 some-odd years.
^yeah, but that's b/c the fans are like "fuck yeah run up the score" when they're playing one of their most hated rivals. the players and coaches though should be still playing basketball the right way though, and run off the clock. this is the same thing as attempting to score on a team in the final minute of an already decided football game, instead of running out the clock.
[Edited on March 8, 2007 at 11:20 AM. Reason : ] 3/8/2007 11:18:15 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Eddy Landreth can be reached at chnsports@nando.com" |
give this bitch a tww welcome3/8/2007 11:18:58 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
I already did 3/8/2007 11:20:35 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
hahahahha, awwwww poor wittle Tyler-poo! 3/8/2007 11:23:54 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
why does this douche have what looks like an n&o email address? 3/8/2007 11:24:57 AM |
ncsucharlie Suspended 4074 Posts user info edit post |
Hahaha I emailed that douche bag also:
Quote : | "Eddy,
If you have watched a UNC game before, and I'm sure you have, you would know that Tyler is a very physical player and he looks for contact. When he gets the ball he is very good at flailing his elbows at defenders, with the elbows up very high near the defenders head. Also, when UNC gets in a game where they are losing and being pushed around (which hasn't happened often this year) he lets his emotions get the best of him, such as throwing his fists at Brandon Costner in Raleigh a few weeks back. No mention of these hostile emotions in your article, which is disappointing.
This article is has to be one of the worst I have read, it is more biased than Michael Irvin to T. Owens. Also, speaking of calling fouls, where are all the traveling calls that aren't made 2 of the 5 times Hansborough gets the ball?
In my opinion, the real reason why Tyler should leave after this year? For the $$$ of course. Please attempt to write something objective in the future and not an article based purely on unproven assumptions.
Charlie" |
3/8/2007 11:31:57 AM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
I did an internship with The Chapel Hill News. The sports editor isn't that biased, but Landreth sure is. Anyway, the CHN is a small, twice-weekly newspaper, and the N&O is a kind of "host" for it. They print it, and, unless things have changed in the last two and a half years, they do the website stuff, too.
I may be wrong, but that's my best recollection of it.
[Edited on March 8, 2007 at 11:33 AM. Reason : ^ p.s. It was a column, which are, by nature, subjective. ] 3/8/2007 11:32:47 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This article is has to be one of the worst I have read" |
...3/8/2007 11:35:39 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
What a dumb article. Between this and the crappy one in the Duke student paper, both sides are looking like absolute fools..
Though, much like Greg Doyel, I admire how this guy can get everyone worked up in to a frenzy. I've turned the corner on Doyel. His exchange with K in the ACC teleconference was priceless.. Motherfucker offered to give K his glasses so he could see the Laettner stomp clearly!
[Edited on March 8, 2007 at 11:46 AM. Reason : x] 3/8/2007 11:45:01 AM |
wolfpack1100 All American 4390 Posts user info edit post |
Didin't Tyler take a swing at Costner when they played at State?? I mean he is a hot headed kid that if you get to him he will screw up. I think the punching in the Nuts that Chris paul did was worse than the elbow shot Tyler got. Or atleast the punch was more deliberate. Atleast there was a ejection with that foul Paul didn't get one. 3/8/2007 11:47:56 AM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What a dumb article. Between this and the crappy one in the Duke student paper, both sides are looking like absolute fools.. " |
and we felt left out, so im sure a bunch of wolfpack people sent in retarded emails talking shit so we look stupid as well. 3/8/2007 11:49:47 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Though, much like Greg Doyel, I admire how this guy can get everyone worked up in to a frenzy." |
i think it's more comical than anything3/8/2007 11:52:10 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Didin't Tyler take a swing at Costner when they played at State?? I mean he is a hot headed kid that if you get to him he will screw up. I think the punching in the Nuts that Chris paul did was worse than the elbow shot Tyler got. Or atleast the punch was more deliberate. Atleast there was a ejection with that foul Paul didn't get one." |
EXCELLENT ANALYSIS OF THE SITUATION THERE CAPTAIN OBVIOUS3/8/2007 11:54:54 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This article is has to be one of the worst I have read, it is more biased than Michael Irvin to T. Owens" |
learn to proof read3/8/2007 11:56:53 AM |
JCTarheel All American 2430 Posts user info edit post |
I agree that was poorly written. Tyler is a physical player and some contact is necessary in the game. The incident with Henderson was rather brutal but I believe the officials took the appropriate actions. I highly doubt Hansbrough needs to fear for his life in future ACC games. However, I do agree with his statements regarding K's handling of the recent incident. He's shown little to no remorse and attempted to place responsibility on anyone other than Henderson and himself.
[Edited on March 8, 2007 at 11:59 AM. Reason : ] 3/8/2007 11:59:11 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
is the audio w/ Doyle and K's presser online anywhere 3/8/2007 12:00:10 PM |
ncsucharlie Suspended 4074 Posts user info edit post |
"is has to be" isn't correct? hahaha, I don't give a shit about that Eddy fucker he'll probably sit there for an hour trying to figure it out. 3/8/2007 12:07:17 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Shaq, Hansdouche, and Montross are the only centers to ever get fouled!! OMG!!! 3/8/2007 12:11:28 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he will be risking life" |
3/8/2007 12:19:21 PM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
If you're making fun of the idea that playing basketball will be risking his life, then yes.
But, if you're making fun of the way it's worded, then no. Nothing wrong, grammatically, with that statement. 3/8/2007 12:21:51 PM |
jstpack All American 2184 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like they're going to have to cut out some serious eye holes for his pretty new mask...
3/8/2007 12:28:03 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
This is what happens when Writing and Rhetoric is the hardest elective at your school... 3/8/2007 12:28:27 PM |
gts92483 All American 859 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That kid? That kid has a name.
Tyler Hansbrough.
He's an All-American, twice All-ACC player, admirable for his ability to take the beatings and maintain his composure. He's been a credit to his school and his conference.
Yet the best K can do is call him "that kid." " |
Mike Krzyzewski, although an asshole, is so much more than Tyler Hansbrough could ever be. For someone who has won over 12 ACC and National titles, I think he can call any player a "kid."3/8/2007 12:39:39 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""is has to be" isn't correct? " |
SINCE YOU ASKED...
no, its not
is one of the worst OR has to be one of the worst
Quote : | " of the 5 times Hansborough " |
you also did a great job of misspelling his name
[Edited on March 8, 2007 at 12:44 PM. Reason : sdf]3/8/2007 12:43:40 PM |
asdf1234 Veteran 386 Posts user info edit post |
No need to even comment on this article. Its pretty obvious Eddy Landreth wouldnt know ACC Basketball from his sister's titty 3/8/2007 12:49:50 PM |
state2285 All American 558 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he will be risking life, limb " |
seriously?? his life is at stake??
hahahaha3/8/2007 12:52:46 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^ He's biased and doesn't know the sport? He'd fit in perfectly on here! 3/8/2007 12:53:47 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
haha 3/8/2007 12:54:23 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Maybe they should suspend Krzyzewski for displaying a level of ignorance an otherwise intelligence person should never display." |
an intelligence person? hmm... never heard of that one.3/8/2007 1:26:59 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
there have been plenty of UNC fans on some local sports radio shows today who say THEY think the whole premise of the article is stupid 3/8/2007 1:28:21 PM |
snowman All American 4751 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Duke investigates felony assault report Basketball court assault may lead to jail time.
BOB SAKACRAP, Staff Writer DURHAM - Duke University police are investigating a reported assault at the end of the Duke men's basketball game against the University of North Carolina yesterday.
With 14.5 seconds left and the game squarely in hand, Tyler Hansbrough swung his head violently into the elbow of Duke freshman Gerald Henderson. Luckily, Henderson escaped without serious injury.
In the post game conference, Coach Krzyzewski said that he has witnessed few more brutal acts in all of his years of coaching. "Sometimes players act in the heat of the moment. That, however, is the same excuse used by many murderers. Hansbrough should apologize to Henderson and should also be suspended the remainder of the year. It would be poor leadership not to do so."
District Attorney Mike Nifong stated that while he had not talked to any of the witnesses, he was going to push forward with felony assault charges. "I have it on good authority from Coach . . .er . . . one of the deputies, that there was indeed an assault and charges are appropriate." Staff writer Bob Sakacrap can be reached at 956-2404 or bsakacrap@newsobserver.com." |
http://virtualburst.com/436192.html
[Edited on March 8, 2007 at 1:54 PM. Reason : .]3/8/2007 1:54:35 PM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
^ ha. Clever, but Nifong went to UNC. 3/8/2007 1:57:22 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i hope their whole team leaves.
and ^, isn't that the point? 3/8/2007 2:30:02 PM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
Well, the spoof article posted is about how Duke is investigating how Hansbrough assaulted Henderson with his head.
My point was that since Nifong went to UNC, he probably wouldn't take his word from K to proceed with felony assault charges.
Plus, the spoof article wasn't that funny anyway.
[Edited on March 8, 2007 at 2:40 PM. Reason : ] 3/8/2007 2:36:59 PM |