ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
We know. We've known since 1989.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2798498
Rose admits to betting on Reds every night ESPN.com news services
Pete Rose revealed Wednesday that he bet on the Reds "every night" while he was manager of the team and that the Dowd Report was correct when it said he did so.
ESPN Radio Pete Rose Rose Appearing on the Dan Patrick Show on ESPN Radio, Pete Rose said he bet on the Reds to win every night while he was their manager because he believed in his team. Listen
Rose spoke Wednesday with Dan Patrick and Keith Olbermann on ESPN Radio to discuss the new Pete Rose exhibit that will be on display at the Great American Ballpark as part of the Reds Hall of Fame. The exhibit will be on display for 11 months.
"I bet on my team every night. I didn't bet on my team four nights a week. I was wrong," Rose said.
Rose said that he believed in his team so much that he bet on them to win every night.
"I bet on my team to win every night because I love my team, I believe in my team," Rose said. "I did everything in my power every night to win that game."
Rose accepted a lifetime ban for gambling in 1989, but denied for nearly 15 years that he bet on baseball. He finally acknowledged in his latest autobiography, published in January 2004, that he made baseball wagers while he managed the Cincinnati Reds.
Rose said he doesn't worry about getting into the Hall of Fame anymore, but if he is reinstated, he hopes to manage again in the majors.
"I quit worrying about it," Rose said about the Hall. The former Reds great said that he thought he was going to be reinstated when he met with commissioner Bud Selig before his book came out. Rose said he met with Selig about a year before the book came out and told him everything that was in the book.
"I really thought I was going to be reinstated. Something changed [Selig's] mind," Rose said.
Rose said he believes it should be up to each individual owner whether he should manage in the majors again.
"[It's] all about dollars, Dan and Keith. If I was ever reinstated. If an owner don't want to win and draw people, don't call my number," Rose said.
Major League Baseball's Hit King also said he thinks that Mark McGwire is getting a raw deal from the writers voting for the Hall of Fame. The reason he said he supported McGwire is because nothing has been proven and they're all "allegations."
"Don't penalize McGwire because you think other guys are taking steroids," Rose said.
McGwire wasn't voted into the Hall of Fame in his first appearance on the ballot in January because of allegations he used performance-enhancing drugs in his career.
Rose admits he made a mistake in betting on baseball.
"I made a big mistake. It's my fault, It's nobody's else's fault," Rose said. However, he said he should be reinstated because "I'm the best ambassador baseball has."
Because of the ban, Rose is not eligible for induction into the Reds' or Baseball's Hall of Fame. He also is not allowed to be involved in most on-field activities, which has prevented the Reds from retiring his uniform No. 14.
Major League Baseball did include him in two events -- 1999's All-Century Team and 2002's 30 Memorable Moments -- that were sponsored by a credit card company.
The new exhibit includes more than 300 items from the career of Rose, who finished playing in 1986 with a record 4,256 hits. His total is reflected at the Reds' Hall in a three-story high wall of baseballs -- one for each hit.
The Associated Press contributed to this report. 3/14/2007 4:06:02 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
o rly? 3/14/2007 4:07:02 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
what an idiot....either you don't lie about it, or you go down with the ship.....you can't lie for 20 years when everyone knows anyway then come clean and just expect everything to be good. He must need money. 3/14/2007 4:09:25 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
ummm. It's pretty damned obvious that MM did steroids... 3/15/2007 12:56:28 AM |
TheOffice Suspended 2343 Posts user info edit post |
I dont really know whats so bad about it if he put money on his own team to win. If anything, it only gave him more motivation to be a better manager and get them to win the game. 3/15/2007 1:05:16 AM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
I don't necessarily agree than managers should be allowed to bet on their team only if it's to win, but I agree that Pete Rose should be in the hall 3/15/2007 1:10:31 AM |
budman97420 All American 4126 Posts user info edit post |
^ too bad he won't get in during his lifetime 3/15/2007 1:11:53 AM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
did you see this year? they only let Cal Ripken Jr. and Tony Gwynn in. This was both players first year eligible. They are running out of people. I think Pete gets in pretty soon. 3/15/2007 1:21:09 AM |
Saddamizer Suspended 5294 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They are running out of people." |
shut the fuck up, dummy3/15/2007 1:44:32 AM |
budman97420 All American 4126 Posts user info edit post |
^^ wtf are you talking about 3/15/2007 1:54:40 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
http://7online.com/sports/entries-in-long-hidden-notebook-show-pete-rose-bet-on-baseball-as-player/799103/ 6/22/2015 1:17:26 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I don't care as long as he bet on his team to win. 6/22/2015 1:29:33 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
the timing of this is amazing, amid speculation that he would be reinstated during the all star events in Cincy 6/22/2015 1:39:09 PM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't care as long as he bet on his team to win" |
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Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't care as long as he bet on his team to win." |
6/22/2015 1:53:59 PM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
I want to see Pete Rose in the HoF & I want to see the players from the steroid era in the HoF (especially guys like Piazza & Bagwell that are up to this point just suspected of using PED's). 6/22/2015 1:58:13 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
to be fair, bagwell admitted to using andro (while it was still legal tho).
also, he's a poor man's frank thomas. he'll get in eventually.
until someone comes up with some evidence that Pete Rose bet against the Reds, it's a travesty that he's not in the hall of fame. hell, cheating is so revered in baseball so much that gaylord perry is deified for throwing spitballs. THE GUY CHEATED TO WIN GAMES AND IS IN THE HALL OF FAME. 6/22/2015 3:18:10 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
so you think he just bet on the Reds every game? seems pretty naive 6/22/2015 3:56:59 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't care as long as he bet on his team to win." |
6/22/2015 3:57:56 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so you think he just bet on the Reds every game? seems pretty naive " |
Depends on how often he bet on the Reds. If he just did it sporadically when they were playing a really shitty team with their ace...then sure. Or even a little more than that.
But you're right...he probably did it when he was deep in the hole and thought he could strike out a few times and make a difference in the outcome.6/22/2015 4:05:35 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
i definitely think what rose did (and the steroid users) was wrong, unethical, etc.
but he (and the steroid users) should still be in the HOF imo. 6/22/2015 4:07:16 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Steroids seem more like cheating, but there's a slippery slope when it comes to potentially fixing outcomes for the mafia.
He just comes across a complete degenerate gambler. If he was a lot more disciplined and did only bet on the Reds every now and then when they played a bad team and a bad pitcher, that's one thing. But he probably wouldn't have been caught if he only gambled occasionally, and not all the time. 6/22/2015 4:17:20 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Steroids seem more like cheating," |
yeah i definitely agree - and Rose and the steroid era are complete apples and oranges. I just see the HOF and Cooperstown as a museum and historical shrine to the greatest baseball players of all time. Regardless of steroids or gambling, there are some guys that simply deserve to be honored and not ignored.6/22/2015 4:44:50 PM |