NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, season starts this week. It's time to roll out the predictions.
AL East: Yankees AL Central: Twins AL West: Angels AL Wildcard: Red Sox
NL East: Mets NL Central: Brew Crew -> huge reach, but fuck the Cards NL West: Dodgers NL Wildcard: Bravos -> really I should pick the Phillies but fuck 'em
AL MVP: Alex Rodriguez in his Bronx farewell tour. Win the MVP and say peace out... AL Cy Young: Johan Santana -> if this differs for anyone then they are wrong AL RoY: Dice-K
NL MVP: Jose Reyes NL Cy Young: Roy Oswalt NL RoY: Stephen Drew -> I didn't look up his ABs/games; is he eligible? -- if not, then Mike Pelfrey
[Edited on March 27, 2007 at 1:41 PM. Reason : x] 3/27/2007 1:40:29 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
World Series Winners: Mariners Cy Young: Felix Hernandez AL MVP: Raul Ibanez AL RoY: Jeff Clement
Then I woke up... 3/27/2007 1:43:43 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
AL RoY = Alex Gordon 3/27/2007 1:49:19 PM |
jamz0r All American 1612 Posts user info edit post |
AL East: Yankees AL Central: Twins AL West: Athletics AL Wildcard: Red Sox (ChiSox make it a good race)
NL East: Mets NL Central: Cubs NL West: Dodgers NL Wildcard: Phillies (just because it's a tossup between them and Braves, and NyM410 picked ATL)
MVPs: Joe Mauer (MIN) & Carlos Beltran (NYM) Cy Youngs: Santana (MIN; Rivera close 2nd) & Sheets (MIL) RoY: Daisuke Matsuzaka (BOS; mainly for all publicity beats out NYY's Philip Hughes) & Chris Young (ARI) 3/27/2007 1:55:32 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
AL East: Yankees AL Central: Good Guys AL West: Angels AL Wildcard: Tigers
NL East: Phillies NL Central: Cardinals NL West: D'Backs NL Wildcard: Reds
AL MVP: Paul Konerko or Ichiro (he's in a contract year) AL Cy Young: Javier Vasquez AL RoY: 'Da Meat Hook's younger brother AL Manager: Oswaldo
NL MVP: BIG ALBERTO NL Cy Young: Carpenter NL RoY: Chris Young, D'Backs NL Manager: Charie Manual 3/27/2007 2:00:18 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
AL East: Yankees AL Central: Twins AL West: Angels AL Wildcard: Red Sox
NL East: Braves NL Central: Cardinals NL West: Dodgers NL Wildcard: Phillies
AL MVP: Jeter AL Cy Young: Johan Santana AL RoY:
NL MVP: Andruw Jones (showing off before big Free Agency comes around) NL Cy Young: Pettite NL RoY: 3/27/2007 2:02:33 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
I predict that Pettite only gets 5-7 starts before suffering a career ending shoulder injury 3/27/2007 2:04:55 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
lol, I was waiting to see when the first "ARE YOU KIDDING" posts would come rolling in. 3/27/2007 2:08:52 PM |
Gumbified All American 1304 Posts user info edit post |
AL East: Yankees AL Central: Twins AL West: Angels AL Wildcard: Red Sox
NL East: Mets NL Central: Cardinals NL West: Dodgers NL Wildcard: Phillies
AL MVP: Jeter AL Cy Young: Johan Santana AL RoY: Philip Hughes (ok more likely to be Dice-K, but I'm a bombers fan)
NL MVP: Carlos Beltran NL Cy Young: Pettite NL RoY:Chris Young 3/27/2007 2:14:44 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Um, you guys are aware that Andy Pettitte is on the Yankees and can't win the NL Cy Young, right?
[Edited on March 27, 2007 at 2:21 PM. Reason : unless of course you mean Y. Petit is going to come out of nowhere and take home some hardware] 3/27/2007 2:20:04 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
AL East: Red Sox AL Central: Tigers AL West: Rangers (I can dream...probably Athletics) AL Wildcard: Twins
NL East: Mets NL Central: Astros NL West: Dodgers NL Wildcard: Padres
AL MVP: Alex Rodriguez AL Cy Young: Johan Santana AL RoY: Daisuke Matsuzaka
NL MVP: Albert Pujols NL Cy Young: Chris Carpenter NL RoY: Chris Young 3/27/2007 2:27:30 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
well, that shows who's paying attention 3/27/2007 2:27:45 PM |
PackMan03 All American 4594 Posts user info edit post |
AL East: Red Sox AL Central: Twins AL West: Angels AL Wildcard: Yankees
NL East: Braves NL Central: Astros NL West: Dodgers NL Wildcard: Cardinals
AL MVP: David Ortiz AL Cy Young: Johan Santana AL RoY: Delmon Young
NL MVP: Albert Pujols NL Cy Young: Jake Peavy NL RoY: Chris B Young 3/27/2007 2:32:03 PM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
AL East: Yankees AL Central: Twins AL West: Angels AL Wildcard: Red Sox
NL East: Mets NL Central: Cubs NL West: Dodgers NL Wildcard: Cardinals
AL MVP: A-Rod is gonna have a huge year AL Cy Young: Santana AL RoY: Dice-K NL MVP: Albert Pujols NL Cy Young: Chris Carpenter NL RoY: Lastings Milliage (is he elligable?) 3/27/2007 2:32:18 PM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
I don't care.
Not at all. 3/27/2007 2:41:04 PM |
NCSUHOO Veteran 193 Posts user info edit post |
Indians all the way! hopefully their fielding wont be so crappy this year. 3/27/2007 2:48:22 PM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
^^ then why bother in the thread? troll.
[Edited on March 27, 2007 at 2:54 PM. Reason : fat fuck.] 3/27/2007 2:54:19 PM |
jamz0r All American 1612 Posts user info edit post |
Lastings Milledge does NOT qualify. He has 166 Career ABs
In order to qualify officially as a 'Rookie' in MLB, a player must not have had ANY ONE of the following: 1. 130 AB's (At Bat's) 2. 50 IP (Innings Pitched) 3. 45 days on a Major League roster during the 25-man limit (i.e., before September 1). Time in military service or on the disabled list does not count against this limit. 3/27/2007 3:04:00 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Drew isn't eligible either. My pick is Mike Pelfrey for NL RoY now...
how long until Crede shows up calling this thread retarded because no one can get predictions correct?
[Edited on March 27, 2007 at 3:07 PM. Reason : x] 3/27/2007 3:05:22 PM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
^i'm going to agree with you on Pelfrey. I just thinK Chris Young is overrated. 3/27/2007 3:32:06 PM |
maverick31 Veteran 413 Posts user info edit post |
AL East: Yankees AL Central: Tigers AL West: A's AL WC: Red Sox
NL East: Braves NL Central: Cards NL West: Dodgers NL WC: Phillies
AL MVP: A-Rod AL Cy Young: Johan Santana AL ROY: Delmon Young
NL MVP: Ryan Howard NL Cy Young: Chris Carpenter NL ROY: Chris Young 3/27/2007 4:23:20 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
I don't understand how it's so popular for the Yankees to win the division. Don't get me wrong, they're a good team with an extremely potent lineup, and they definitely have a good shot at winning. But they've got a subpar rotation and a bullpen in no better shape.
I just wouldn't expect every single person to post here except 2 to pick them.
[Edited on March 27, 2007 at 4:28 PM. Reason : a] 3/27/2007 4:27:50 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
AL East: Yankees AL Central: Tigers AL West: Angels AL Wildcard: White Sox
NL East: Mets NL Central: Cubs NL West: Diamondbacks NL Wildcard: Astros
AL MVP: Derek Jeter AL Cy Young: Johan Santana AL RoY: Dice-K
NL MVP: Derrick Lee NL Cy Young: Randy Johnson (no I'm not kidding) NL RoY: Chris B. Young 3/27/2007 5:05:42 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure eeveryone remembers how I dominated this thread last year.
If not, Ill just re-dominate for you
AL East: Yanks (who else would i pick, TB?)
AL Central: Det (repeat the magic, too much balance not to)
AL West: Oakland (get down early, make the move late as usual)
AL Wildcard (BoSox, THEY HAVE AN ASIAN!!!)
NL East: Mets (They have some stiff competition if the Phillies get a pitching staff, the Marlins grow up together, or the Nationals get a payroll. Hell, if the Braves get lucky they could even go .500)
NL Central: Cardinals (If the Pirates go .500 ill jerk off in my g/f's face for a fortnight)
NL West LA Dodgers (do these teams even count? Serisouly their games end at like 3 AM EST and none of them are competitive)
NL Wildcard: Cincinatti Reds. Do they still have Jose REyo and Chris Sabo? No? Oh well, good thing the nL sucks so they can still make it
AL MVP: Justin Morneau, we all know the fans love a white guy AL CY: Johan Santana cause he has a pretty face
NL MVP: Albierto Pujoles, you may not have heard of him but since taking steroids in '02 he's become a really good power hitter
NL CY: Aaron Harang, No this will never happen but this guy boosted me to a fantasy championship last year so ill just throw his name out there for good luck
Most likely to get hurt playing Guitar Hero on Nintendo Wii and cost me a $HUGE bet on the World Series by walking every batter: Joel Zumaya
NL MVP 3/27/2007 5:16:28 PM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
AL East: Red Sox (This is the year) AL Central: Tigers AL West: Angels AL WC: Yankees
NL East: Mets NL Central: Cincinnati NL West: Giants NL WC: Cards
AL MVP: A-Rod AL Cy Young: Roy Halladay AL ROY: Daisuke Matsuzaka
NL MVP: Albert Pujols NL Cy Young: Carlos Zambrano NL ROY: Mike Pelfrey 3/27/2007 6:57:09 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
red sox, tigers, angels, white sox
braves, cardinals, dogers, cubs
roy: matsuzaka, justin upton mvp: mauer, pujols cy young: santana, peavy
world series: red sox over dodgers 3/27/2007 7:00:18 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
WHO CARES, BASEBALL FUCKING SUCKS
now excuse me while i tend to my fantasy team 3/27/2007 7:12:46 PM |
spro All American 4329 Posts user info edit post |
I'm looking forward to seeing what happens in the NL West, I think it's the most wide open race in all of MLB
well, open to everyone but the Rockies anyways 3/27/2007 7:35:58 PM |
CPanther90 Veteran 286 Posts user info edit post |
AL East: Yankees AL Central: Indians AL West: Angels AL Wildcard: Red Sox
NL East: Phillies NL Central: Reds NL West: Dodgers NL Wildcard: Marlins
World Series: Angels over Marlins 3/27/2007 8:03:17 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Flying under the radar, nice. And, for the record, 97% of these predictions are wrong. 3/27/2007 9:14:01 PM |
IIDX All American 2815 Posts user info edit post |
NL East: Mets NL Central: Brewers NL West: Giants
AL East: Yankees AL Central: Indians AL West: Angels
NL Wildcard: Reds AL Wildcard: Red Sox
NL MVP: Chase Utley AL MVP: Justin Morneau AL Cy: Roy Hallady NL Cy: Matt Cain
World Series: Mets over Indians
The Nationals will lose 100 games.
[Edited on March 27, 2007 at 10:49 PM. Reason : .] 3/27/2007 10:34:52 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
i predict a 20 win season for Vasquez
...and for the Pirates 3/27/2007 11:24:35 PM |
IIDX All American 2815 Posts user info edit post |
The Pirates are going to kick some ass this season. Well, LaRoche will at least. 3/27/2007 11:30:48 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
tigers tigers tigers tigers tigers 3/27/2007 11:45:47 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And, for the record, 97% of these predictions are wrong." |
LOL, going the safe route this year... learned your lesson?
Quote : | "and for the Pirates" |
that hurt
3/28/2007 2:09:37 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
AL East: Dylan AL Central: Dylan AL West: Dylan AL Wildcard: Dylan
NL East: Dylan NL Central: Dylan NL West: Dylan NL Wildcard: Dylan
AL MVP: Dylan AL Cy Young: Dylan AL RoY: Dylan
NL MVP: Dylan NL Cy Young: Dylan NL RoY: Dylan 3/28/2007 8:45:58 AM |
GangGanja21 Veteran 358 Posts user info edit post |
watch out for the AL central this year. Twins bring their shit every year, without a doubt. But the ChiSox will rebound after a tough year, the Tigers just went to a World Series, and keep an eye out on the Cleveland Indians. Thats right, I'm calling it right now, they get the wildcard. 3/28/2007 1:15:17 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
90 wins = tough year 3/28/2007 1:43:46 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
AL East: Yanks AL Central: Tribe AL West: A's AL Wildcard: Jays
NL East: Mets NL Central: Cards NL West: Giants NL Wildcard: BrewCrew
AL MVP: A Rod AL Cy Young: Rich Harden AL RoY: does matsuzaka count? AL comeback poy: Mikey Pizza
NL MVP: Ryan Howard NL Cy Young: Zito NL RoY: C. Young NL comeback poy: Biggio
WS: A's over Giants just like in '89 ! 3/28/2007 2:05:55 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Barry Zito will pull a Marquis this year. 3/28/2007 2:09:07 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
AL East: Yankees AL Central: Twins AL West: As AL Wildcard: Tigers
NL East: Mets NL Central: Cardinals NL West: Padres (this division blows) NL Wildcard: Phillies
AL MVP: Nick Swisher (in a huge upset over Morneau, Jeter, Papi, etc) AL Cy Young: Johan Santana AL RoY: Dice-K
NL MVP: Albert Pujols NL Cy Young: Chris Carpenter NL RoY:Chris Young (This is the kid that played bball at Princeton too right?, if so yes him) 3/29/2007 1:00:56 AM |
kable333 All American 5933 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Barry Zito will pull a Marquis this year." |
You mean start off great, then start losing a lot after the All-Star break?
AL East: Yankees (They always find a way) AL Central: Twins AL West: Athletics AL Wildcard: Red Sox
NL East: Mets NL Central: Cardinals/Astros NL West: Dodgers NL Wildcard: Cardinals/Astros
AL MVP: Alex Rodriguez/Derek Jeter AL Cy Young: Johan Santana/Roy Halladay AL RoY: Dice-K
NL MVP: Albert Pujols NL Cy Young: Chris Carpenter/Jason Schmidt NL RoY: Stephen Drew/Josh Hamilton (if eligible) (Wild Card Pick: Alejandro De Aza - Saw him come up through Carolina, now Marlins starting CF)3/29/2007 8:30:15 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
OPEN YOUR EYES FAGGOTS
weighted averages of ERA+ for braves, phillies, and mets projected starters over last three seasons:
04 05 06 ----------- 157 144 126 Smoltz 133 125 91 Hudson 116 James 89 53 Davies 55 86 90 Cormier ----------- 115 111 95 | WEIGHTED AVERAGE = 103
79 122 118 Myers 121 115 103 Garcia 83 101 102 Moyer 92 Hamels 87 90 92 Eaton ----------- 92 107 105 | WEIGHTED AVERAGE = 103
119 118 113 Glavine 136 87 95 Hernandez 66 120 Maine (only 26 total GP) 139 73 68 Perez 79 Pelfrey (only 4 GP) ----------- 131 86 95 | WEIGHTED AVERAGE = 98
one more reason why the mets are screwed this year3/29/2007 12:18:40 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, because that matters. Do you realize what the Mets rotation was for large parts of last year? Jeremi Gonzalez and freaking Jose Lima were in it for a month at a time. Steve Trachsel was the worst 15 game winner in the Mets history. Victor Zambrano was there for the first 2 months..
Braves fans seem to think fatboy in the 9th will close the 18 game gap or whatever huge number it ended up being after the Mets were pissing around as early as May b/c they had the division locked up. It ain't that easy...
In case you haven't noticed your little numbers show a downward trend for the Braves, which isn't the case for the Mets [or Phillies]. Plus, Oliver Perez is a completely different pitcher under Rick Peterson (his velocity is touching 97 and stead b/t 92 and 94 whereas his last year years in PIT it was in the upper 80's) and Maine and Pelfrey were both Top 50 prospects (via Baseball America) who have very high ceilings and will progress upward as their development goes forward.
[Edited on March 29, 2007 at 12:30 PM. Reason : fwiw cormier, davies, and james were never has highly rated as ANY of the 3 mets young guns..] 3/29/2007 12:25:39 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yeah, because that matters" |
yeah era+ matters, dummy
Quote : | " Do you realize what the Mets rotation was for large parts of last year? Jeremi Gonzalez and freaking Jose Lima were in it for a month at a time. Steve Trachsel was the worst 15 game winner in the Mets history. Victor Zambrano was there for the first 2 months" |
none of whom are represented in the numbers above
what are you talking about?
Quote : | "Braves fans seem to think fatboy in the 9th will close the 18 game gap" |
big bob is just the first piece of the puzzle
our pen is completely overhauled, our starters are all showing signs of improvement, and don't forget our offense was the second best in the NL -- behind the phillies, not the mets
also, billy wagner will be a non-factor this year -- no way can the mets hand him the ball 50 times with a chance for the save, the pen is pretty good but the starting pitching is HORRID
Quote : | "In case you haven't noticed your little numbers show a downward trend for the Braves, which isn't the case for the Mets [or Phillies]" |
?
i'm looking at sagging numbers for glavine, hernandez, and perez on my screen
Quote : | "fwiw cormier, davies, and james were never has highly rated as ANY of the 3 mets young guns.." |
let me know when baseball america starts awarding world series trophies
[Edited on March 29, 2007 at 12:31 PM. Reason : ]3/29/2007 12:31:04 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "none of whom are represented in the numbers above
what are you talking about?" |
The ERA+ for the Mets last year with those guys was god awful. Far worse than it is projected to be this year. Still, the division was over my mid May.
Quote : | "big bob is just the first piece of the puzzle
our pen is completely overhauled, our starters are all showing signs of improvement, and don't forget our offense was the second best in the NL -- behind the phillies, not the mets
also, billy wagner will be a non-factor this year -- no way can the mets hand him the ball 50 times with a chance for the save, the pen is pretty good but the starting pitching is HORRID" |
The starting pitching is on par with the Braves and slightly below Philly if you really look at it. Each team has questions (Smoltz is getting older, Hudson SUCKED last year, James is a nibbling soph, Davies wasn't very good last year, Cormier is a young scrub). The Phillies pen is the worst in the division though. Wags will be fine. 4-5 blown saves, 40 saves, and a ~2.25 ERA. Just like always. No reason to worry at all. Plus he has a splitter now to take some of the stress off of his arm.
Quote : | "?
i'm looking at sagging numbers for glavine, hernandez, and perez on my screen " |
Maybe you should look at the averages you posted. The only team that has gone down from the previous year each time is your boys. In '06 the Mets and Braves pitchers listed had identical 95 averages.
Quote : | "let me know when baseball america starts awarding world series trophies" |
I don't think I insinuated that. Just that the Mets young 3 have higher ceilings and more projectability than do the Braves young 3. I don't think you'd find a GM in America that thinks the Braves have better young pitching than the Mets. In fact the Mets have one of the fastest rising farm systems in the game (<3 Omar)3/29/2007 12:36:54 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
we have all season to argue so i'm not going to blow my load here
however
Quote : | " Wags will be fine. 4-5 blown saves, 40 saves, and a ~2.25 ERA. Just like always. No reason to worry at all. Plus he has a splitter now to take some of the stress off of his arm." |
i never meant to imply that wagner would blow saves -- he's still the best closer in the division
but there is no way in hell that the mets rotation can consistently pitch 6 or 7 quality innings, night in and night out, all season long
the starters will be blowing save opportunities before billy boy can take off his warm up jacket3/29/2007 12:43:16 PM |