Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/040507/col_9074908.shtml
Quote : | "Q: Do you feel that you had an adversarial relationship with the media while at N.C. State as some have suggested? I think it's all bull, because 95 percent of the [media] people that sat in those meetings, there was one paper that had it out -- not just for me -- but our university, in any sport, any game or any guy sitting in that [head football coach] seat, or the basketball seat. It was ridiculous.
I had more fun in these meetings, because I tried to make it fun. I said, 'You guys have a job to do, and I've got a job to do, and I'll do everything I can do to help you to a point, and you guys do everything you can to help me, to a point.' I understand you have a job to do. I had people come up to me and say, 'Chuck, don't change. We love it. We haven't had somebody take a 15-minute thing, turn it into a hour thing, and we're laughing our [butt] off on the way out of here.' There's only one group. ... It was bull. I didn't have a problem with the press, even them. ...
I've been around long enough to know, the power of the pen, you can't beat them because you don't run out of ink. You're going to write whatever you want to. ... They wanted me to be really [mad]. You know what, 'Just keep feeding it. You're doing my marketing for me [writing about] red shoes, the glasses, he drives a Corvette.' ... They would say, 'Boy, you're flamboyant.' Why am I flamboyant? 'Well, you drive a Corvette.' Mike Krzyzewski drives a Jaguar, but I've never read that in the paper.
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haha, GG
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Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Haha, nice. I always liked Chuck. It's a shame that it didn't work out for him here. Good call on K driving a Jaguar. Besides the Corvette is considered the common man's sports car (if there was such a thing.) But it definitely is a lot more affordable than a Jaguar. 4/5/2007 2:51:22 PM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
That's awesome. Gotta love the call out. 4/5/2007 3:03:10 PM |
ben94gt All American 5084 Posts user info edit post |
I liked his quote about "that one paper" having it out for our sports teams and our university 4/5/2007 3:03:27 PM |
Docido All American 4642 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "To show you how close we were, if I had red-shirted Philip Rivers, his fifth year, he would have been the quarterback on the No. 1 defensive football team in America. We would have probably played for the national championship." |
4/5/2007 3:08:36 PM |
ncsucharlie Suspended 4074 Posts user info edit post |
you think it was the N&O? 4/5/2007 3:17:11 PM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know exactly what Chuck was lacking as a head coach, but I believe he's a helluva coach and maybe the best recruiter in college football. 4/5/2007 3:48:04 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
yea i liked chuck too. sucks we had to let him go but it was obviously the right move. especially when i read quotes like that ^^^
[Edited on April 5, 2007 at 3:50 PM. Reason : hjfjfh] 4/5/2007 3:50:07 PM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
^yeah I agree. Best of luck to Chuck, i'm sorry it didn't work out for him, but no coach should ever play the "what if" game.... 4/5/2007 3:59:48 PM |
monvural All American 558 Posts user info edit post |
Chuck lacked sound decision making. He recruited his ass off, but when it came to understanding what decision to make where, he seemed to always pick the wrong one. Otherwise, I thought the players always seemed to be well coached in practice (as they were usually prepared for games, whether they made adjustments or not), and definitely we had some great recruiting classes. 4/5/2007 5:29:21 PM |
buddha1747 All American 5067 Posts user info edit post |
He also lacks coaching skills as far as disipline as evidenced by watching any NC state game from the last 3 years. But as was said he was a hell of a recruiter 4/5/2007 5:35:18 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
gad i still cant understand why everybody hates herb and loves chuck. chuck only ever lied, herb only ever told the truth.
anyway
Quote : | "hey would say, 'Boy, you're flamboyant.' Why am I flamboyant? '" |
YOU RODE A FUCKING MOTORCYCLE INTO REYNOLDS
GOOD GOD
Quote : | "To show you how close we were, if I had red-shirted Philip Rivers, his fifth year, he would have been the quarterback on the No. 1 defensive football team in America. We would have probably played for the national championship."" |
and we would have lost most of our games his freshman year including to teams like Arkansas State.4/5/2007 6:30:03 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Jatavis Sanders would have led us to victory
Quote : | "you think it was the N&O?" |
Of course
[Edited on April 5, 2007 at 6:48 PM. Reason : 2]4/5/2007 6:47:29 PM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
all chuck really lacked was a coaching staff.....we had a revolving door when it came to assistants b/c we wouldn't sign multi-year contracts with those guys. It makes a difference, just ask that coaching staff in blacksburg that has been together for 10-20 years or however long it has been 4/5/2007 7:00:46 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
The N&O was incredibly complimentary of our football program during Chuck's first 4 even 5 years. In fact, I remember thinking it was totally different than their coverage of UNC (the Bunting picture by himself and the articles of how he lost control of his program) at the time. Of course the last 2 years changed that but we were pretty venomous towards Chuck as well so that is to be expected. Also wasn't the N&O firmly in Sendek's corner, which was the reason so many State fans were pissed off? That would fly in the face of Amato's quote if it was the N&O as well..
Frankly I think he might have been talking about the Herald-Sun. We barely get a column in that paper even when we were in the Sweet 16...
Quote : | "and maybe the best recruiter in college football." |
If by Chuck Amato you mean Doc Holliday then I agree.
[Edited on April 5, 2007 at 7:09 PM. Reason : x]4/5/2007 7:05:26 PM |
LetsTAILGATE All American 2331 Posts user info edit post |
the N and O has it out for our university. I know it. You know it. We all know it. 4/5/2007 7:38:15 PM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if I had red-shirted Philip Rivers" |
Are you fuckin' kidding me?4/5/2007 7:41:31 PM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
i don't think he's seriously saying that he looks back on not red-shirting Rivers as a regret... he's just being up a random example (a rather silly one, mind you, but still)...
he knows he had to play P.Riv his freshmen year... he can't be that foolish... 4/5/2007 7:44:45 PM |
ncsujoker All American 675 Posts user info edit post |
if he had red shirted Philip Rivers, he wouldnt have lasted 7 years... 4/5/2007 7:44:56 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
at least we've gotten a sense of appreciation for chuck. i feel bad for the guy, he put everything he had into this team. but in the same breath, i wanted him fired, badly. he just wasn't cutting it, and it was a real shame being an alumn and all, but it wasn't working.
he also made an ass out of himself a lot towards the end there, bringing up partial qualifiers and whatnot. oh well, i'm excited about red tom. 4/5/2007 10:08:58 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
The Independent had it out for Chuck EVERY WEEK. emo kids were screaming for his head
[Edited on April 5, 2007 at 10:14 PM. Reason : .] 4/5/2007 10:14:11 PM |
coppertop wolpfack! 1803 Posts user info edit post |
I don't have a problem with the coaching change but I liked chuck. He was an NC State guy and I never minded his 'antics' Kinda liked most of em! 4/5/2007 10:46:48 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
he may have been the best recruiter of florida players but he sure as fuck didn't seem to like recruiting from any other state 4/6/2007 12:48:12 AM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he may have been the best recruiter of florida players but he sure as fuck didn't seem to like recruiting from any other state" |
With this gem, it's obvious you read the N & O religiously and take their word for it. Let me know the percentage of kids on our team last year from NC and FL. Also, our top two first rounders last year, Manny and Mario, NC boys4/6/2007 12:50:20 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Amato only recruited Alabama. 4/6/2007 1:10:39 AM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
Wow. Very touching. I was against firing Chuck but I now understand it had to be done to accomodate TOB. I will always appreciate what Chuck did for our football program and I hope he goes down in history as a member of the Wolfpack and not as a Seminole.
Thanks for everything Chuck, dont hold it against us when we hate on you from across the sidelines in the coming years... its football ... its religion to many of us... and you helped our faith grow tremendously....
Fuck the N&O 4/7/2007 2:04:13 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I was against firing Chuck but I now understand it had to be done to accomodate TOB." |
hahaha, what??4/7/2007 2:16:34 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " if I had red-shirted Philip Rivers, his fifth year, he would have been the quarterback on the No. 1 defensive football team in America. We would have probably played for the national championship." |
you fuckwads are retarded, bc you know he is right. who the fuck would dispute that? the fact that we took ohio state to 3 overtimes that next year is legitimate proof
[Edited on April 7, 2007 at 2:35 PM. Reason : e]4/7/2007 2:34:55 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
you mean when we took osu to OT while rivers was there
how is that relevant? 4/7/2007 4:16:11 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
rat what are you talking about? 4/7/2007 4:46:50 PM |
jamz0r All American 1612 Posts user info edit post |
Bump... SportsCenter segment about him (most likely) coming up
"He's had Bobby Bowden's number the past few years, and now he's back on his side. Find out who he is, and how he's changing the FSU attitude" 4/12/2007 6:06:55 PM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
Chuck was a hell of an assistant coach but he'll never make a head coach, unless he starts at the bottom, as in non-BCS conference schools, and learned from all the mistakes he made here. Too bad he couldn't have been an assistant coach here. 4/12/2007 9:30:29 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
^he was an assistant coach here 4/12/2007 9:31:56 PM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
did you hear what they said?
"He is bringing a lot of discipline to the team." I lol'd
He is having each player follow a picture as far as their lockers go. They must have the locker set up PERFECTLY. dub tee eff 4/13/2007 8:03:52 AM |
FatTony All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
I laughed at the discipline remark too. FSU will have the most disiplined lockers in the NCAA.
Maybe while he was here he should have diagramed how to not false start. 4/13/2007 11:20:43 AM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^he was an assistant coach here " |
oops
well maybe he should try again4/13/2007 11:38:30 AM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on April 13, 2007 at 11:50 AM. Reason : ]
4/13/2007 11:50:02 AM |
superchevy All American 20874 Posts user info edit post |
amato is a disciplinarian. y'all don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 4/13/2007 11:54:10 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
He may be a disciplinarian in terms of players being accountable OFF the field but you can't say with a straight face that his teams were disciplined ON the field. If you can, then you weren't watching the same games as us. You can say that's all on the players all you want but it starts and ends with the head coach in major sports..
[Edited on April 13, 2007 at 12:07 PM. Reason : V that was what I thought to, but what I see with my own two eyes is what I know and thats penalties] 4/13/2007 12:04:34 PM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
amato was no disciplinarian off the field either. 4/13/2007 12:06:07 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
yea he totally disciplined the hell out of derrick morris when he shoved a coach on the sideline and ?anthony hill? when he shoved another player to the ground during a close game
they were suspended until the next play, taht showed them! 4/13/2007 12:34:39 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "
amato was no disciplinarian off the field either." |
haha, winner. i don't know where all this talk of discipline is coming from, i think fsu just made it up. like a, 'hey, let's see if we can get amato a reputation of being a disciplinarian.' apparently it worked, b/c that is the only damn way he could've gotten that rep, and you're hearing about it everywhere.4/13/2007 12:36:29 PM |
superchevy All American 20874 Posts user info edit post |
i got my insight from conversations with players like terrence holt, jerricho cotchery, freddie aughtry-lindsey, and many others; as well as members of his staff. y'all believe what you want, and i'll believe what i want i guess.
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Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
He wasn't a disciplinarian. He tried to be, but in the end he really wasn't. Players did what they wanted and rarely had to deal with serious consequences. 4/13/2007 2:28:06 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
mostly good comments in this thread
i just have one revision
Quote : | "we had a revolving door when it came to assistants b/c we wouldn't sign multi-year contracts with those guys" |
It's pretty well known that our assistants kept leaving because they hated working for Chuck Amato.
I'm not going to give him a free pass for running people off. Just like Im not going to give Herb a free pass for running off the best and third best players he ever recruited.4/13/2007 2:29:39 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm not going to give him a free pass for running people off." |
egggggggggggggggggggggzactly.4/13/2007 2:32:04 PM |
superchevy All American 20874 Posts user info edit post |
well, i heard different, ronny. i was told by those guys that amato was basically a son-of-bitch and always on players' backs. they said they hated him at times, but they still respected him as a coach. but hey, i guess you and chris know first-hand how things were, so the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. 4/13/2007 5:38:57 PM |
Punter16 All American 2021 Posts user info edit post |
Well one thing hasn't changed about Chuck.....he still can't speak in complete sentences and I still can't understand half of what he says 4/13/2007 5:45:37 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i got my insight from conversations with players like terrence holt, jerricho cotchery, freddie aughtry-lindsey, and many others; as well as members of his staff. y'all believe what you want, and i'll believe what i want i guess.
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ok so maybe it isnt fair to say Amato wasnt a disciplinarian
instead, lets say Amato wasnt an effective disciplinarian
which any person with two eyes and an iq over 2 who watched his NCSU football teams play cant really argue with.4/14/2007 2:33:21 AM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Besides the Corvette is considered the common man's sports car (if there was such a thing.) But it definitely is a lot more affordable than a Jaguar." |
not really. the cheapest corvette msrps at 45 new. the cheapest jag msrps at 35. jags go up to about 75. corvettes go up to 77 so they are about the same with vettes typically being a little more.4/14/2007 2:57:22 AM |