im really interested in this vehicle, perhaps later in the year when ive got some money

anyone ever driven/ridden in one?

4/8/2007 8:43:00 PM

0-60< 5 sec wet or dry...

thats pretty cool.

gas mileage will blow though.

4/8/2007 8:47:12 PM

wtf dude, seriously?

4/8/2007 8:48:26 PM

yea they're cool. if u dont care about burning money

4/8/2007 9:03:03 PM

They're badass. I think they're overpriced, but badass. I've drien 2 of them. They handle well, and are quick.

4/8/2007 9:49:19 PM

^over priced? Show me a higher performing SUV that costs less.

The only flaw is that the dual exhaust is a center exit. You know, where you'd put a trailer hitch

[Edited on April 8, 2007 at 10:52 PM. Reason : k]

4/8/2007 10:52:33 PM

mopar/jeep actually has a trailer hitch for it


and yeah, they kick ass.

4/8/2007 11:15:19 PM

whats the 0-60 time while pulling a small boat

4/8/2007 11:22:07 PM

SUV's should not be high performance, its fucking retarded

4/8/2007 11:25:32 PM

^why?

[Edited on April 8, 2007 at 11:26 PM. Reason : .]

4/8/2007 11:26:35 PM

^^ i tend to agree
then again
if i were to buy an SUV (which is not in the forseeable future)
i would sure as hell want the fastest and most powerful one

4/8/2007 11:30:21 PM

cars make better cars than suv's

4/8/2007 11:35:18 PM

the only SUV (and maybe a land rover range rover sport) that gets me going. srt8 badge= schwing on anything...

4/8/2007 11:35:46 PM

yeah the only real market i see for these
is guys who have to get an SUV for some sort of family vehicle
but really wanted to buy a sports car

4/8/2007 11:36:27 PM

but see, these sports suv's are not needed for family cars. as far as i know none of the sports suv's have 3rd row seating so youre better off getting a sport wagon if you need a fast family car.

[Edited on April 8, 2007 at 11:38 PM. Reason : and none of them can tow for squat]

4/8/2007 11:37:43 PM

^R63 AMG? hardly cheap, and more like a minivan, but if so, then the R-class is the only longitudinal-drivetrqin minivan...

4/8/2007 11:43:02 PM

ive been wanting to get an SUV and this one just enthralls my websurfing

4/8/2007 11:52:24 PM

^^^having a "family" doesn't mean you have 4-5 kids. I'm pretty sure most families have closer to 2 kids on average.

[Edited on April 8, 2007 at 11:53 PM. Reason : j]

4/8/2007 11:53:14 PM

Quote :

"youre better off getting a sport wagon if you need a fast family car."

i don't see any sport wagons with 4wd.

Quote :

"and none of them can tow for squat"

more than any car/wagon.

i don't see any problem or the stupidity with an all in one vehicle. performance, utility, etc. pratically speaking, it makes alot more sense than anything else.

4/8/2007 11:58:54 PM

lots of people buy large suv's for the third row. but if you are getting one of these sports suv's then you obviously dont need it so a sport wagon is great. on road trips with kids you need more trunk space than you get with a regular sedan and the wagon fits that need. when i have kid my wife is gonna be driving something like a 540i touring w/ sports package

Quote :

"i don't see any sport wagons with 4wd."

plenty with awd

Quote :

"more than any car/wagon."

the 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 is capable of towing up to 3500 pounds, so is a bmw 540it (which is less than some other cars/wagons)

[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 12:10 AM. Reason : .]

4/8/2007 11:59:03 PM

^Forester STi ftw

4/9/2007 12:07:58 AM

I have an '05 Grand Cherokee Limited w/ the 5.7L HEMI. It's got the power. I have no need for more horsepower in an SUV than the HEMI provides, but if you're willing to get a max of 14mpg everywhere you wanna go, the SRT8 is certainly an option.

The HEMI gets ~20-23 on the highway, ~18 mixed driving. I love my GC, btw, amazingly smooth ride.

4/9/2007 12:08:18 AM

awd =/ 4wd.

there is no way in hell i'd put 3500lbs. behind a 540 on a regular basis. besides the obvious suspension/braking safety issues, you're asking for eventual subframe failure. not to mention you're limited to only a 2" ball with the factory setup.

the srt8's rating is for legal/liability issues. it's capable of towing much more. (~7k iirc).

[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 12:12 AM. Reason : .]

4/9/2007 12:11:45 AM

gas guzzler tax on that truck is worth more than the market value of my car

4/9/2007 12:12:17 AM

Quote :

"the srt8's rating is for legal/liability issues. it's capable of towing much more. (~7k iirc)."

look up the 540i in another country, its rating is higher too. i mean people tow with sedans and wagons all the time in other countries. its only in america where we need a huge truck to tow a boat to the lake. go to europe and you'll see people towing huge ass campers, horse trailers, other cars behind their family sedan all the time.

[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 12:15 AM. Reason : .]

4/9/2007 12:12:58 AM

just because europeans tow stupid loads with cars doesn't make it okay.

4/9/2007 12:14:01 AM

post tah vid of the lil european car that couldn't

[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 12:15 AM. Reason : with the RV]

4/9/2007 12:15:06 AM

etc...

^found it
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lAfZ1N56qjY&mode=related&search=

[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 12:20 AM. Reason : .]

4/9/2007 12:19:38 AM

damn that's some dangerous shit. wonder if they even have trailer brakes...

4/9/2007 12:26:29 AM

Quote :

"look up the 540i in another country, its rating is higher too. i mean people tow with sedans and wagons all the time in other countries. its only in america where we need a huge truck to tow a boat to the lake. go to europe and you'll see people towing huge ass campers, horse trailers, other cars behind their family sedan all the time."

Ever spend any time towing?

4/9/2007 8:02:23 AM

^ yea really, there is a huge difference. The ass end of a car, will get jerked by a trailer way more than a heavy SUV or Truck, in addition to the lack of power and braking.

[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 9:07 AM. Reason : k]

4/9/2007 9:07:07 AM

towing with a car in the us is just plain dumb ours aren't really designed for it.

4/9/2007 10:10:04 AM

ive spent plenty of time towing some pretty heavy stuff (bobcats, tractors, etc...) and im not saying that you should try that in your sedan, but a big v8 wagon is more than enough to get a small boat to the lake or tow a trailer full of lumber home from the lumber yard (which is more than 99% of SUV owners are going to do)

^huh? we have the same cars (and lots of even bigger cars)

[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 10:13 AM. Reason : .]

4/9/2007 10:12:39 AM

the srt8 is the first grand cherokee i would want to own since they changed the body style after 98. i always wanted the 98 5.9 but never wanted to get rid of my 96 5.2

4/9/2007 10:19:03 AM

^^Well, sure, you can tow a boat or a single axle trailer (and even some tandem axle trailers) with a larger car.

Hell, a buddy and I used to tow about 1500 pounds with a first gen Volkswagen Jetta.

But I would place about a 3500 lb cap (and possibly a 5000 lb cap if it's something like a mid '70s Olds Vista Cruiser or an LTD or something) on any kind of bigger car produced in the last 15 years or so. They just ain't that big, nor are they designed to tow heavy loads.

It's lunacy to tow a horse trailer or a car trailer or a huge ass camper with an average sized car.

The only reason they do it in Europe is that large personal vehicles are a rarity because they are so damn expensive to own.

4/9/2007 10:28:56 AM

and my point is that 99.x% of people will never need to tow something over 3500 lbs
and if you do you are buying a real truck/suv and not one of these sports things

[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 10:35 AM. Reason : .]

4/9/2007 10:34:20 AM

i saw a civic towing a ~16' ski boat once. that's all i have to contribute to this thread.

4/9/2007 10:34:22 AM

i pretty much completely agree with guth on this.

the whole "sport suv/sport truck" seems fucking stupid.

If you NEED a truck, get a beater. If you NEED an SUV, get a cheap normal one.

Then spend the rest of the loot on a real sport whip.

4/9/2007 10:56:57 AM

I would like to see a family sedan pull our boat out of the OI ramp.

4/9/2007 11:17:24 AM

^^Well THAT philosophy I agree with.

I personally think it's stupid to drive a tow vehicle every day and make outrageous payments on it.

My truck is PAID FOR. And I'm still shopping for something that gets 30+ mpg to drive every day.

300 bucks a month in diesel fuel is driving me batshit.

But still, I've come to the conclusion that I will always have something that can tow 7000 lbs + if I can swing it.

4/9/2007 11:35:35 AM

Quote :

"a big v8 wagon is more than enough to get a small boat to the lake or tow a trailer full of lumber home from the lumber yard"

it's not about the power. it's about the suspension and brakes.

Quote :

"If you NEED a truck, get a beater. If you NEED an SUV, get a cheap normal one. Then spend the rest of the loot on a real sport whip."

that's what i would personally do, but not everyone has the means or desire to own multiple vehicles. i can see the point and coolness of having something like the gc str8 that does a little bit of everything (and pretty well i might add). hell, it's got more "sports" than alot of sports cars.

4/9/2007 4:58:15 PM

you can get electric brakes, and any suv thats been sports tuned doesnt have the suspension for a heavy tounge weight either

[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 5:30 PM. Reason : .]

4/9/2007 5:17:56 PM

^^if you have the means to buy a cherokee SRT8, you have the means to get a beater truck and a car. Hell, it'll probably cost less in the long run just from gas and maintenance savings.

Not to mention you wouldnt have to worry about beating your nice shit up in day-to-day use.

[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 5:23 PM. Reason : .]

4/9/2007 5:22:49 PM

i want the srt8 not to tow anything but only to get to the bar faster with my entourage

4/9/2007 5:30:21 PM

^^^throwing a brake controller in a car does not autmatically make it okay to tow with. tongue weight? what does that have to do with anything? even alot of 1 ton trucks are only rated for 500lbs. of tongue weight.

^^by means i wasn't talking financially. i meant the hassle of storing another vehicle, keeping it up, etc... alot of people don't care anything about doing that.

4/9/2007 5:44:00 PM

i wouldnt have a problem towing a boat behind a ~2 ton car

4/9/2007 5:54:05 PM

Quote :

"i saw a civic towing a ~16' ski boat once. that's all i have to contribute to this thread."

Shit...We put the 22'er in with my brothers old 4-cyl Accord all the time. Once had a guy at the boat ramp say "Y'all know how much a clutch costs" to which we responded "You know how much a truck costs?" We're less than 1/4 mile from the house to the boat ramp so we're not endangering anybody in the process though.

All it takes is one fuckup on the highway and you'll learn pretty quickly why you don't want to tow over the weight limit.

[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 5:56 PM. Reason : s]

4/9/2007 5:55:54 PM

^^sure, a jon boat.

4/9/2007 6:13:24 PM

my parents have an 18' bowrider with fluids and trailer its about 3500 lbs. we tow it with an suv but its apparently under the capacity for the cars mentioned so i wouldn't hesitate to tow it with one. not sure how a car would do on a ramp though.

4/9/2007 6:24:25 PM

you mean it's right at the capacity of one wagon mentioned...

[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 6:34 PM. Reason : 1]

4/9/2007 6:30:07 PM