danmangt40 All American 2349 Posts user info edit post |
autoblog:
" Fabled porsche über-tuner Ruf, the house of mad genius that brought us enthusiast miracles such as the legendary CTR "Yellow Bird," appears ready to knock everyone's socks off once again. This time, the wow factor is attached to the company's new CTR3, a Cayman-based supercar that makes its debut today in Bahrain, where is likely no shortage of individuals able to pony up the car's projected $300,000 price tag.
Under its aluminum and carbon-fiber skin, which makes the CTR3 look like something that would have appeared right at home dueling the likes of the Toyota GT-ONE, Porsche 911 GT1, and McLaren F1 in LeMans races past, the new RUF has the heart of its bigger and equally insane brother, the 911 RT12. Its 3.8L twin-turbocharged six delivers 700 horsepower and 656 lb-ft of torque, all of which is sent rearward via a rumored seven-speed sequential gearbox. Top speed? Figure around 224 mph. Can an assault on the Nürburgring by this earthbound cruise missile be far off?
"http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/11/ruf-set-to-launch-cayman-based-ctr3-supercar/
4/11/2007 4:09:38 PM |
superchevy All American 20874 Posts user info edit post |
the back half is fugly! it looks ~3ft. too long.
[Edited on April 11, 2007 at 4:42 PM. Reason : ] 4/11/2007 4:41:19 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "porsche über-tuner Ruf," |
i would like to point this out4/11/2007 9:03:14 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
if saleen is a car company ruf should be too. 4/11/2007 9:07:14 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
saleen did make the s7 4/11/2007 9:11:58 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
Ford made the F150 4/11/2007 9:14:00 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
i was using that to justify that saleen is a car company, not just a tuner shop
but whatever
[Edited on April 11, 2007 at 9:30 PM. Reason :
4/11/2007 9:29:50 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i would like to point this out" |
ummm... everybody knows that RUF is a tuner.
and anyway, how is that relevant here?4/11/2007 9:32:21 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
saleen had its own vin #s before the s7 4/11/2007 9:32:53 PM |
guth Suspended 1694 Posts user info edit post |
ruf has its own vin numbers 4/11/2007 9:33:53 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
then technically they're an automaker... not ubertuner 4/11/2007 9:35:26 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
here is where the engine comes from:
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/porsche_ruf_rt12.asp 4/11/2007 9:43:09 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and anyway, how is that relevant here?" |
everyone and their mother talks about how RUF is an independent auto maker4/11/2007 9:51:43 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
i don't know about everyone and their mother, but no one said it here, and you are the one who stoked the flames by bringing it up.
so, irrelevant, as i said. 4/11/2007 9:59:13 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
hey nigger.. look a few posts up. 4/11/2007 11:08:56 PM |
richthofen All American 15758 Posts user info edit post |
I like. 4/11/2007 11:20:30 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "hey nigger.. look a few posts up." |
how about you open your eyes you raghead.
you were the 3rd person to post in here, but the FIRST to bring up the stupid irrelevant issue. no one said IN THE THREAD BEFORE YOU anything about it.4/12/2007 9:40:03 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
4/12/2007 10:09:58 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
4/12/2007 10:20:52 AM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
ok ok enough pussies, back the car....
I don't mind the back end... not the best but at least it's not vanilla as fuck 4/12/2007 12:03:48 PM |
seeteuu99 Veteran 393 Posts user info edit post |
I like the openings on the inside of the rear fenders. Not sure how functional they are but they're very Le Mans prototype esque. 4/12/2007 12:12:21 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
i think the front bumper looks horrible.
a mix between frog eyes and wide mouth bass
it has that 959 look from the side
[Edited on April 12, 2007 at 12:19 PM. Reason : ] 4/12/2007 12:18:29 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18966 Posts user info edit post |
I think the whole car looks awesome, but I'd like to see a cleaner back windshield, one you could actually see out of of. maybe just get rid of the stuff on the side 4/12/2007 12:39:05 PM |
danmangt40 All American 2349 Posts user info edit post |
AUTOBLOG update... no, I really do go to other sites, I just keep checking there first, I guess:
" Full official specs, new photos of the RUF CTR 3
Posted Apr 12th 2007 8:50PM by Alex Nunez Filed under: Sports/GTs, Euro, Supercars
Click image for an updated photo gallery
First things first: as was widely reported (including here) the RUF CTR 3 is not derived from the Porsche Cayman. That makes it no less amazing, as the technical data pasted after the jump bears out. The CTR 3's bodywork is a RUF creation in aluminum and carbon fiber, and the earlier reports stating that the car is Cayman-based were probably a result of the automaker's use of the small Porsche coupe's taillamps. That's where it ends, however.
The 3,746cc twin-turbocharged flat six produces 700 horsepower and over 656 lb-ft of torque, which, according to RUF, enables the CTR3 to run from zero to 62 mph in 3.2 seconds and max out at 235 mph. Shifts come courtesy of a six-speed sequential manual gearbox. The tall shifter is capped with a metal knob and features prominently in the Ruf's leather-lined cabin. 15" 6-piston ceramic-composite brakes fore and aft handle the task of stopping this rocketship. The brakes are tucked behind a set five-spoke wheels sized 19" in front and 20" in back. As much a supercar as the Enzo, Carrera GT, and SLR McLaren, the CTR 3 is priced accordingly at €380,000 plus VAT. That's over $510,000 US dollars at the current exchange rate, and for the buyers who would consider adding one to their collections, it's probably worth every single penny.
[Source: RUF]
Gallery: RUF CTR 3
RUF CTR 3 Technical data
Body Body build in steel, aluminium and kevlar-carbon. Rollover protection in A-pillar and in birdcage. The birdcage forms a torsion resistant unit with the front chassis by joining to the sill beam and the A pillar.
Front structure: steel, zinc dipped Safety passenger compartment: steel, zinc dipped Engine and transmission frame: space frame and birdcage Front bonnet and doors: aluminium Body shell: Kevlar-Carbon composite
Engine Type: turbocharged boxer Cylinders: 6 Displacement: 3,746 cc / 228.6 in3 Bore: 102 mm / 4.01 in Stroke: 76.4 mm / 3.01 in Output: 515 kW (700 hp) at 7,000 rpm Max. torque: 890 Nm / 656.5 lb-ft Compression ratio: 9.2 : 1 Engine control unit: Bosch Motronic with OBD-2 Turbo charger: two KKK turbo chargers Intercooler: two air-air-intercoolers
Transmission Power delivery: rear wheel drive Transmission: sequential 6-speed-manual transmission, transversal, angle drive, shift indicator in the instrument panel Limited slip differential: multi-disc locking differential Locking value load / deceleration: 40 % / 60 %
Chassis Front axle: McPherson struts, anti-roll bar Rear axle: multilink rear axle, anti-roll bar, horizontal coil over shock absorbers Steering: Power assisted rack and pinion
Brakes Brake calipers front/rear: 6 piston fixed light alloy calipers Brake discs front/rear: ventilated and cross drilled ceramic composite discs Brake disc diameter front/rear: 380 mm / 15 in / 380 mm / 15 in Anti-lock braking system: Bosch ABS 8.0
Wheels and tyres Wheels front/rear: 8.5" x 19 / 12.5" x 20 Tyres front/ rear: 255/35 ZR 19 / 335/30 ZR 20
Size and weights Length: 4,445 mm / 175.0 in Width: 1,944 mm / 76.5 in Height : 1,200 mm / 47.2 in Wheelbase: 2,625 mm / 103.3 in Front track: 1,506 mm / 59.3 in Rear track: 1,585 mm / 62.4 in
Empty weight with 6 speed manual transmission According to DIN: 1,400 kg / 3,086.4 lbs According to EG-standards: 1,475 kg / 3,251.8 lbs
Performance Top speed: 375 kph / 235 mph 0-100 kph / 0 – 62 mph: 3.2 sec
Price Euro 380,000.00 (plus VAT) " http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/12/full-official-specs-new-photos-of-the-ruf-ctr-3/ 4/12/2007 9:15:35 PM |
danmangt40 All American 2349 Posts user info edit post |
4/12/2007 9:20:59 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
god damn
btw, what's the purpose of making the back window like that, like not a window?
nice interior btw: http://www.autoblog.com/photos/ruf-ctr3/211545/
and this pic is very artistic: http://www.autoblog.com/photos/ruf-ctr3/211546/ 4/12/2007 9:21:40 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i think the front bumper looks horrible.
a mix between frog eyes and wide mouth bass" |
i can see that... looks like they tried to do 3 different things in that area... and ended up fugly4/13/2007 11:17:00 AM |
aias Veteran 242 Posts user info edit post |
I'd hit it, but not from the back. 4/13/2007 11:47:27 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
I'll take a CGT instead 4/13/2007 1:10:47 PM |
danmangt40 All American 2349 Posts user info edit post |
lol. I'm a dummy. jalopnik is saying the ctr3 is really based on the 911, which seems like a bizarre choice when you consider that the boxster is a perfectly good place to start when you'd like to build a mid-engine super-porsche since they already baked in 2 of those three things, but this pic:
really shows the tube chassis, and some detail elements do suggest 911, like the interior (remember, boxsters and caymans have round vents, as if it mattered), and the headlights are fully round like a 997... again, doesn't matter, but wouldn't make sense to add them if you started with a boxster/cayman and those elements were already paid for... and weren't from the 911... (not that this is exactly a carefully budgeted build...)
[Edited on April 13, 2007 at 4:12 PM. Reason : oops... image linking to jalopnik is weird] 4/13/2007 4:09:59 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^ actually, yeah, this made me think.
the front end is completely 911 GT3, but i was fooled by the pushed down squatted body, which made it look like it was based on the cayman.
see these pics:
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/11/rufctr307_01.jpg
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/03/porschegt307_12.jpg
btw, how about these two:
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/911_alzen.asp http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/sportec_spr1.asp
2007 Porsche 911 Turbo Mission 400 Plus by Jurgen Alzen Motorsport
3.6 litre TT 1054 hp 760 lb-ft > 250 mph (wants to break the 400 kph mark)
2006 Porsche Sportec SPR1
3.6 litre TT 802 hp 656 lb-ft 0-60 mph in 2.9 sec > 236 mph
4/13/2007 4:42:19 PM |
danmangt40 All American 2349 Posts user info edit post |
^sidenote: doubling and tripling a car's power makes my eyes roll a little. it HAS to be at the expense of cost, tractability, reliability, composure, grip, economy (and hence how often you can drive it!) and life expectancy.... I respect the ruf for being an (overpriced) but holistic re-porsche-ing in a way the other two really aren't... I recently got a ride in a 997 turbo in greensboro, and all I can say is that there is really a rapidly decreasing margin of return on performance much beyond that much power without significant changes to the chassis of the car and with massive weight reduction... with the variable vane turbos, it had NO lag, and it was all the 4wd could take just to keep pointed in a straight line (the owner may have just been fooling around more than he should have). I can't even imagine how undriveable a (600hp stock) 2008 Viper is going to be.
deep down, when I first saw that ctr3, I think I wanted it to have like 450 hp but weigh around 2600-2700 lbs. like that's any kind of conservative maximum! but certainly more interesting than 700 hp and 3200. Also, with maximum useful power being accessed by a 70k 'vette now, where is ferrari supposed to live without killing its drivers/writing off its most ridiculous supercars (save the enzos)?
anyone here seen the bmw m-coupe with the carbon widebody? now that's a mod I could really get into. 343 hp is more than enough when you're taking an already fast car and dropping 400 600 lbs!
http://www.tcklineracing.com
[Edited on April 13, 2007 at 6:06 PM. Reason : corrected weight saving and added link] 4/13/2007 5:58:54 PM |