went and test drove one today. i was really impressed with it. it will be a grocery getter for the wife i think. does anyone have any first hand experience with an X5? if you were in the market for similar would you consider it?

4/27/2007 9:27:58 PM

yes, get it. what year are you looking at?

4/27/2007 9:29:14 PM

If I was in the market for something like that, I would consider these:

FX45
X5
Cayenne
Range Rover Sport

In looks, FX45 is a killer.

4/27/2007 9:44:49 PM

fx series interior quality is really shitty compared to the bmw, especially after about a year (go look at a lightly used one to see)
I wouldn't have a range rover myself... not a ford fan
the fx is fast, i've driven both the 35 and 45, both are pretty quick.

My dad and i went through this w/ my moms car, and we settled on the bmw. (and my dad always said he'd never ever own one) Besides, the maintenance being included is nice, I know mercedes doesn't do that anymore.

[Edited on April 27, 2007 at 9:54 PM. Reason : .]

4/27/2007 9:53:58 PM

yeah, i got pwnt by a cayenne at a stoplight on glenwood one time

4/27/2007 10:01:53 PM

The RRS is really a BMW, with a supercharged Jag 4.2. Trust me the RRS and x5 are more alike than not, BMW Bought the Rover group and dumped tons of money into it, then realized they were losing their ass, so they developed the X5 and dumped rover off to ford. Ford isnt going to totally re-engineer any of BMWs work, it would be like Picasso retouching the Mona Lisa.

The problem with the RRS is its price tag compared to the v8 X5. Its a luxury thing, if your already own a 760 BMW and you want a truck, but diversity is your thing, you buy the RRS. If you just aspire to break into the luxury SUV market and you want to do it in a big way, but not spend too much both up front and on maintenance compared to the $75k plus you will pay for the RRS, you buy the v8 X5.

The Cayenne is in a totally different leauge in my opinion, and the fucking japanese FX shitbox can rot. Which it probably will, while you try to find it in a mall parking lot amidst 200 other nissans.

4/27/2007 10:05:05 PM

the cayene has 300 more hp than my truck, plus weighs 3,000 lbs less = pwnt like a motherfucker

4/27/2007 10:06:27 PM

Quote :

"The Cayenne is in a totally different leauge in my opinion, and the fucking japanese FX shitbox can rot."

1) Not necessarily. The base Cayenne is cheap and slow. When you say different league, you are talking about the S and Turbo models.

2) FX45 performs better than Cayenne S and X5 (according to various magazine tests). And its looks are the best in my opinion. So you hate it just because it is a Nissan, and not some exclusive brand?

4/27/2007 10:10:57 PM

Yes.

Welcome to america, the land of equal oppurtunty hatred. I hate you cause of what you like. Like Nissans over a brand with prestige. You who bases his decisions on numbers printed in a magazine, you are the scum of the automotive earth, and I hate you. You are the same guy spouting off about his 500hp Charger with a 340, just wearing a different trucker hat. Die and let us breathe that air you are wasting.

4/27/2007 10:16:01 PM

WTF?

4/27/2007 10:18:57 PM

hate to say it but...

cayenne

4/27/2007 10:34:27 PM

get her a minivan, last thing we need is another woman driving a SUV.

4/27/2007 11:10:43 PM

Last thing we need is another asian with a gun.

4/27/2007 11:14:46 PM

Quote :

"get her a minivan STATION WAGON"

station wagons looks hot, but only the european ones. and you are looking at bmw anyway.

check out wagons by MB, BMW, Audi, VW, etc.

4/27/2007 11:23:12 PM

^^touche.

4/27/2007 11:32:56 PM

05 with the 4.8

similar to this one http://tinyurl.com/yo5xex

[Edited on April 28, 2007 at 11:22 AM. Reason : psi]

4/27/2007 11:43:55 PM

I just couldn't buy a pre-2007 X5 after seeing the news ones

good heavens that one on the racetrack commercial (escp. the wheels) is the hotness

4/27/2007 11:53:46 PM

Quote :

"Yes. Welcome to america, the land of equal oppurtunty hatred. I hate you cause of what you like. Like Nissans over a brand with prestige. You who bases his decisions on numbers printed in a magazine, you are the scum of the automotive earth, and I hate you. You are the same guy spouting off about his 500hp Charger with a 340, just wearing a different trucker hat. Die and let us breathe that air you are wasting."

all that shit just came out of your mouth? god damn. this is a good day. you piece of shit retard redneck fuck.

4/28/2007 2:07:17 AM

zing~

the guy i worked under this summer took a job as project engineer over the hvac/nav shit for the X5's but i doubt he has any effect till the next model

4/28/2007 2:32:28 AM

reid, get it.

4/29/2007 12:54:51 AM

DOOO IT

sweet rides, meredith and i checked one out one time. she didn't have the $$.

4/29/2007 1:08:31 AM

Please tell me, WTF is the point of an X5. The 5 series wagon has more cargo capacity and can be had with AWD. Though I suppose that's changed with the redesigned '07?

If cost is no object I'd rock a Cayenne, but if it is then I'd try for a Toureg (same damn SUV anway).

4/29/2007 2:38:56 AM

honda civic hatchback.

has more cargo room than most SUVs.

but its not AWD.

4/29/2007 2:47:32 AM

Quote :

"Please tell me, WTF is the point of an X5. The 5 series wagon has more cargo capacity"

The point is when us "country boys" get money we can afford shit that baffles you "rich loser fratboy douchenozzles". Pat I have a little respect for you, dont ruin it now. Look around, other TWW Garage regulars who used not to have shit when you had a 2nd gen GSR, now we have jobs and money and real shit. What are you driving now? Or better yet, when was the last time you drove it?

Walk down to the corner newsstand and buy a Car and Driver or something.

4/29/2007 3:42:11 AM

Toureg V10 TDI FTW, Leith VW has one

4/29/2007 9:46:23 AM

I still don't see the point of getting a SUV for grocery shopping.

4/29/2007 10:03:47 AM

I highly considered the X5 for the last few months, our family came to the decision that the Audi Q7 was the better option. We have only had it for a couple weeks and we love it, the features are amazing and the dealership treats you a lot better.

4/29/2007 10:57:45 AM

x5 4.8is or fx. (Or jeep grand cherokee srt-8...), but seriously... go drive a 540iT first

4/29/2007 11:32:04 AM

Quote :

"The point is when us "country boys" get money we can afford shit that baffles you "rich loser fratboy douchenozzles"."

what? a 5 serious wagon costs money too. his point was the wagon is some hot shit and will make a much better car than an x5 will. if its styling then whatever thats your opinion, but i dont think you understood the point he was making.

you dumbfuck redneck

4/29/2007 12:31:53 PM

Quote :

"5 serious wagon "

lol

[Edited on April 29, 2007 at 12:38 PM. Reason : .]

4/29/2007 12:37:38 PM

how about mclaren F1 engine swap

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vC33J-zMR78

4/29/2007 12:52:45 PM

^
wrong bmw msport engine....
The engine in the x5 lemans was from the LMP

4/29/2007 2:13:17 PM

^no, it is not wrong. it is the same engine that powered mclaren F1. they also used the same block, obviously detuned for 8-series during mid 90's.

4/29/2007 3:07:23 PM

HAahaha

The BMW x3 and x5 are just as fucking stupid and worthless as the entire Range Rover line is now.

It's a shitbox with gold trim that doesn't do anything well, but people buy it because it "means you have money".

I swear on my grave, no matter how much I make, I will continue to daily drive my shit Saturn SL2 until it kicks the bucket because it's a damn good car and I don't give a flying shit what other people think of me.

Quote :

"The point is when us "country boys" get money we can afford shit that baffles you "rich loser fratboy douchenozzles". Pat I have a little respect for you, dont ruin it now. Look around, other TWW Garage regulars who used not to have shit when you had a 2nd gen GSR, now we have jobs and money and real shit."

The point is, SMART people don't go blow their monetary load on depreciating posessions as soon as they can.

4/29/2007 4:50:15 PM

Quote :

"The BMW x3 and x5 are just as fucking stupid and worthless as the entire Range Rover line is now."

i'm hardly a rover fan, but they still do exceptionally well off road compared to other stock suv's. imo, they've managed to keep their off road performance mixed with on road luxery heritage intact over the years.

do i think they're worth the price tag? hell no, they never have been.

4/29/2007 4:58:52 PM

Quote :

"The point is, SMART people don't go blow their monetary load on depreciating posessions as soon as they can."

i agree to an extent, but to a lot of people in the garage, cars are hobby. some people spend thousands every year to go climb a mountain, ride a bike on utah trails, four wheeling whatever. you can't put a price on a hobby.

4/29/2007 10:14:00 PM

or happiness

4/30/2007 12:21:59 AM

I probably spend thirty minutes a day in a car. Over 70 years that adds up, why not spend it in a nice place?

Not a gay place though like in an X5. Get the Range Rover. It'll help with that small penis, even if your wife drives it.

4/30/2007 12:50:24 AM

^^^
^^ftw

i already own a house, make some investments for my future, so i don't see the point in hoarding any extra money. shit gets spent HARD on stuff i enjoy.

[Edited on April 30, 2007 at 1:10 AM. Reason : .]

4/30/2007 12:54:11 AM

i cant argue with people who drive saturns. on paper they make perfect sense. but god what a boring car.

4/30/2007 1:07:06 AM

Quote :

"Welcome to america, the land of equal oppurtunty hatred. I hate you cause of what you like. Like Nissans over a brand with prestige. You who bases his decisions on numbers printed in a magazine, you are the scum of the automotive earth, and I hate you. You are the same guy spouting off about his 500hp Charger with a 340, just wearing a different trucker hat. Die and let us breathe that air you are wasting. "

Wow you garage ppl are harsh... worse than the soap box.

4/30/2007 1:15:09 AM

The garage is my soap box.

4/30/2007 1:21:49 AM

Quote :

"i agree to an extent, but to a lot of people in the garage, cars are hobby. some people spend thousands every year to go climb a mountain, ride a bike on utah trails, four wheeling whatever. you can't put a price on a hobby."

and BBR:

I completely agree with both of you, and that's exactly my point. How the HELL is a BMW X5 a hobby? And how in the world does it "make you happy"? All a luxury vehicle does is pump up your social penis so other people will think you have some kind of imaginary status. And if that is happiness, or a hobby, maybe I just missed the boat on that one.

Quote :

"i'm hardly a rover fan, but they still do exceptionally well off road compared to other stock suv's. imo, they've managed to keep their off road performance mixed with on road luxery heritage intact over the years. "

Yea, I actually mean't to say Land Rover as a whole, but the RR has still held up it's end of the bargain. It's a shame that the most expensive model is the only one left that is off-road worthy. The final straw for me came a few years ago when a dealership owner told me he was almost ashamed to sell them anymore and that they had to stop having the Uwharrie festivals, because the new models couldn't make it through the trails.

Quote :

"i cant argue with people who drive saturns. on paper they make perfect sense. but god what a boring car."

Couldn't agree more. That's why I drive the saturn to GO scuba diving, or sky diving, or hiking or whatever else. Who cares how much exciting it is to drive to the grocery store? Or how exciting it is to go 75mph on the highway on a road trip?

I mean, you might get your kicks for about the 45 seconds it takes to get up to speed, but for the next several hours, I'm getting the same experience for about 40 grand less.

I'm not downing on cars for recreation, hell I have a project car and soon to have a truck too.

4/30/2007 9:51:40 AM

Quote :

"i cant argue with people who drive saturns. on paper they make perfect sense. but god what a boring car"

Bunch of faggets in here anyways.

People buy cars for different reasons. Who gives a flying FUCK how much god damn cargo space a car has? Shut the fuck up already......pansy asses. People buy X5's because they like them, and they aren't some gay ass dent resistant joomobile's.

4/30/2007 6:31:06 PM

Quote :

"The point is when us "country boys" get money we can afford shit that baffles you "rich loser fratboy douchenozzles". Pat I have a little respect for you, dont ruin it now. Look around, other TWW Garage regulars who used not to have shit when you had a 2nd gen GSR, now we have jobs and money and real shit. What are you driving now? Or better yet, when was the last time you drove it? Walk down to the corner newsstand and buy a Car and Driver or something."

Joel, what the hell man. Alright, so you've noticed I still have my GS-R. Most people know that. Most people that know me on here (like you) also know that I have a great job and live in NYC and have no need for a car, except for trips outside of the city. Are you trying to upstage me b/c I haven't upgraded my car, that I don't use!?! Please tell me what the point would be for me to buy a new car when I don't even use the one I have.

I'd understand your rant if I was still putzing around Raleigh in the GS-R. But thats not the case man

4/30/2007 7:36:26 PM

Quote :

"i agree to an extent, but to a lot of people in the garage, cars are hobby. some people spend thousands every year to go climb a mountain, ride a bike on utah trails, four wheeling whatever. you can't put a price on a hobby."

no no, driving cars is a hobby......working on cars is a hobby....."cars" is not a hobby....

i don't think the experience of climbing a mountain can be compared to dumping money into something that is constantly depreciating (99% of the time), no matter how much you like it

4/30/2007 10:45:46 PM

i'd say driving a fun vehicle is directly comparable to the feeling of climbing a mountain.

your point of a vehicle depreciating doesn't make any sense. exactly what appreciating asset are you gaining from climbing a mountain, etc.?

[Edited on April 30, 2007 at 10:50 PM. Reason : .]

4/30/2007 10:48:50 PM

i appreciate driving up a mountain [/thread]

4/30/2007 11:09:07 PM

Quote :

"i don't think the experience of climbing a mountain can be compared to dumping money into something that is constantly depreciating (99% of the time), no matter how much you like it"

hobby=accumulation of knowledge about certain area that you consider enjoyable. whether you are dumping money into cars or dumping money into climbing gears it doesn't matter. it is relative and matter of preference. i would agree that buying cars without working on them by yourself is not a hobby, although car collecting is definitely a hobby. either way you turn it you are learning about that specific area.

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