Okay here is how the thread goes.

Someone lists their social and political stances and you try to match the candidate that best fits their needs.

Let's contain this to VIABLE candidates as in they are one of the top 10 running.

I'll start.


First and foremost I want a candidate who stands for economic prosperity for the nation. I despise protectionist policymakers, socialists, and overspenders.

Secondly, I want moderate values. I dont want to persecute gay people but i dont want statues of penises intertwining on the white house lawn.

Thirdly, i dont want a sheep or clone but i dont want someone whose pride is bigger than their brain. In other words, I dont want a Gore/Kerry or a Bush in office.

TWW, pick my candidate!

5/8/2007 3:40:30 AM

^ Based on your posted requirements, Rudy Giuliani would probably be a good match.







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5/8/2007 4:32:35 AM

Ron Paul, or Gravel.

Gravel's a bit on the socialist side, but not so far that it's disgusting.

Paul also tends to cater to the libertarian crew, some of who are kinda scary

5/8/2007 7:18:44 AM

^ Gravel's a moonbat.

Quote :

"[Gravel] admitted that by 1980, when he went down to defeat in a Democratic primary after 12 years in the Senate, he had alienated 'almost every constituency in Alaska.'"

Quote :

"Now, however, [Gravel] is broke, unemployed and happy. He has, in his own words, 'zero net worth.' His Senate pension all goes to his ex-wife, and he hasn't earned a regular paycheck in years. Since leaving the Senate he has endured two bankruptcies, one corporate and, just three years ago, one personal. He doesn't care. He quotes mythology scholar Joseph Campbell, who advised everyone to 'follow your bliss.' He and his wife have 'difficulties' financially, he says, but he also says he has never been more content."

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/05/07/mike_gravel/




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5/8/2007 8:46:13 AM

That's actually a good article about Gravel though, good read (despite you took it out of context to make him look bad).

5/8/2007 9:47:13 AM

OH NOES HE'S BROKE

5/8/2007 11:54:34 AM

^so you're saying you have problem with a man that can't control his own finances controlling the finances of the entire nation?

(i really don't know anything about Gavel)

5/8/2007 1:02:27 PM

If he was broke and all "WAAHHHH, I'M SO POOR, WOE IS ME," that would be one thing.

This guy is poor and he likes it. It doesn't sound like he "can't control his own finances" to me.

5/8/2007 1:06:18 PM

you can be poor without declaring bankruptcy B/c that is irresponsible, b/c you're fucking over other people.

5/8/2007 1:28:16 PM

He declared bankruptcy after having 3 expensive surgeries while he was working without a salary for 3 nonprofit groups. Read the article.

5/8/2007 1:42:05 PM

5/8/2007 1:52:53 PM

This might be similiar to the original post, but here is what I want...pick me a candidate...

1. Same as rallydurham's

Quote :

"First and foremost I want a candidate who stands for economic prosperity for the nation. I despise protectionist policymakers, socialists, and overspenders. "

2. Similiar to rallydurham, but I want to insert my pro-choice views on abortion

Quote :

"Secondly, I want moderate values. I dont want to persecute gay people but i dont want statues of penises intertwining on the white house lawn. "

3. Same as rallydurham

Quote :

"Thirdly, i dont want a sheep or clone but i dont want someone whose pride is bigger than their brain. In other words, I dont want a Gore/Kerry or a Bush in office. "

4. Someone who will clean up/terminate social programs, and focus more on domestic problems, rather than international.

Do the candidates mentioned above still fit?

5/8/2007 3:06:28 PM

you want ron paul then.

he's pro-life but wants it left up to the states to decide. also he's mr. super-libertarian

5/8/2007 3:10:28 PM

Mitt Romney and Rudy Guiliani are the 2 socially moderate republicans.

I'm trying to think of a fiscally conservative democrat...

5/8/2007 3:14:22 PM

http://www.speakout.com/VoteMatch/senate2006.asp?quiz=2008

5/8/2007 5:24:45 PM

^^ error: does not compute. The words "fiscally conservative" and "democrat" without a negating clause to begin cannot be read.

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5/8/2007 5:38:47 PM

Fiscally conservative democrats and socially liberal republicans fall into the proverbial black hole of libertarianism in American politics.

Most other democracies have a viable party or coalition that identifies with fiscal restraint and progressive social policy, (ie the Blue Tories in Canada, Sarkozy's center-right coalition in France, etc), but the 2-party system has seemingly locked them out of mainstream US politics.

5/8/2007 5:51:49 PM

yeah i think im starting to like Romney. He seemed pretty engaging on Hannity & Colmes last night.

In general i think the republicans have put out a lot of strong candidates this time around. Just hope they dont beat up on each other too much in the primaries.

5/8/2007 6:43:17 PM

^Which Romney?


Also, say what you want about Democrats and spending, but noone can compare to the fiscal recklessness demonstrated by Bush and the Republican Congress. I'd rather have tax and spenders than borrow and spenders.

5/8/2007 8:01:46 PM

I'd rather have borrow and spenders than tax & spenders.


Taxing hurts the economy while borrowing helps it. Its a simple issue between deadweight loss and investment.


As long as you keep the borrowing to a low % of overall GDP. We're still in that low range (albeit barely) currently... I woudlnt mind seeing us borrow a slightly smaller % just to keep things safe.

5/8/2007 8:29:50 PM

Quote :

"That's actually a good article about Gravel though, good read (despite you took it out of context to make him look bad)."

SkankinMonky

I did nothing of the sort:

1. Do you want a candidate that is "frightened" by the other Democrat presidential candidates and believes that Obama can't wait to "nuke" a country?

Quote :

"Mean, angry Mike Gravel, the man who had said during the first Democratic presidential debate that the other candidates 'frighten[ed]' him, who demanded of Sen. Barack Obama, 'Tell me, Barack, who do you want to nuke?'"

2. Do you want a candidate who--by his own admission--alienated almost all of his constituents?

Quote :

"He admitted that by 1980, when he went down to defeat in a Democratic primary after 12 years in the Senate, he had alienated 'almost every constituency in Alaska.'"

3. Do you want a 76-year-old candidate who has been off the political radar screen for over 25 years?!

Quote :

"Gravel's support seems to be coming from those disaffected Democrats who, tired of politics as usual, watched the debate and saw a fiery man no one had heard from for 25 years saying things no other candidate would dare. After the debate, the image of Gravel as a sort of cross between Adm. James Stockdale and Grampa Simpson -- crotchety, rambling and maybe a little dotty -- is congealing into conventional wisdom in the snarkier quarters of the mainstream media. But there are some Democratic primary voters who not only don't mind cantankerousness [sounds better than crazy] but relish it as the mark of a plain speaker."

4. Do you want a candidate who hasn't worked in who knows when? Okay, he went bankrupt due to medical bills, which sounds fishy to me, what prevented him from getting back on the horse?

Quote :

"He has, in his own words, 'zero net worth.' His Senate pension all goes to his ex-wife, and he hasn't earned a regular paycheck in years."

In addition, medical bills are not the reason he stated for his corporate bankruptcy:

Quote :

"He had a condo business that went bankrupt; it was undercapitalized, he says, and there was a lawsuit."

Quote :

"Gravel had watched one of his business concerns go bankrupt two decades before [his medical problems]."

5. Do you want a candidate that has numerous medical problems?

Quote :

". . .three surgeries in 2003, one to install rods in his back and two for neuropathy. . . . "

6. Do you want a candidate who supports school vouchers and a national sales tax?

7. Do you want a candidate who is a cohort of Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky?

8. Do you want a candidate who doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning--much less of getting the nomination?

BTW--committing the same infraction you accused me of--you neglected to mention that Giuliani was dressed in drag for a charity event.

This is a better image of him:



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5/9/2007 1:04:29 AM