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mathman
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,277058,00.html

Go ahead, flame the source.

In short, the Clintons say do as say not as I do.

All you Clintonistas out there, why is this ok ?

As far as I've heard she has been nonapologetic about
taking these flights on behalf of this apparently scummy
company.

6/2/2007 7:24:15 PM

SourPatchin
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This sounds exactly like the Clintons to me.

They just don't give a shit.

That doesn't necessarily mean they aren't right for the presidency.

[Edited on June 2, 2007 at 7:38 PM. Reason : ...]

6/2/2007 7:35:56 PM

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Two things that jump out at me about the article:

1) Of what relevance is the company being known for scamming people to the contradictory stance Hilary holds?

2) Why does an article that has no obvious look of an editorial or opinion collumn read like a blog entry?

6/2/2007 7:39:21 PM

SourPatchin
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^Cause it is a blog.

It says BLOGS in big, blue letters and FOXNEWS.COM HOME > FOX FAN CENTRAL > BLOGS.

[Edited on June 2, 2007 at 7:42 PM. Reason : sss]

6/2/2007 7:42:00 PM

mcfluffle
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"In short, the Clintons say do as say not as I do."

Last time I checked, the world was full of hypocrites.

Quote :
"All you Clintonistas out there, why is this ok ?"

People don't tend to attack their figureheads.

6/2/2007 7:59:28 PM

JCASHFAN
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"That doesn't necessarily mean they aren't right for the presidency."
I love the "they" reference. Does anyone really think that A) Hillary is going to let Bill any closer to her Oval Office than she does her ovaries? She's suffered for this too long to let him even slightly steal the limelight. B) That she'll be anything like her husband?

Also, Dick Morris is an opportunistic political whore.

[Edited on June 2, 2007 at 8:44 PM. Reason : ">i]

6/2/2007 8:43:06 PM

Republican18
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no he tells it like it is

6/2/2007 8:49:04 PM

Scuba Steve
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As much as I hate people for accepting corporate favors, Dick Morris has spent half of his career slamming the Clintons. I'm sure he's trying to sexy it up a bit to sell more books.

6/2/2007 9:09:36 PM

EarthDogg
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^
I say thank God for that toe-sucking little guy.

The shareholders should be up in arms for the company using its funds to shuttle around politicians.

Hillary's comment “Those were the rules. You’ll have to ask someone else if it’s good policy.” seems more like something someone would say who is already safely in office, and not running for it. This smug retort reminds me of Bill's "Depends on what the meaning of 'is' is" and "I did not have sexual relations with that woman".

This is the kind of tortured legal strains you can look forward to with a Hillary presidency.

6/2/2007 10:31:39 PM

1337 b4k4
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"It says BLOGS in big, blue letters and FOXNEWS.COM HOME > FOX FAN CENTRAL > BLOGS.
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that's what I get for only reading the article and ignoring the side bars. I blame advertising for conditioning me to not read anything that isn't in the center of the page.

6/2/2007 10:46:42 PM

Boone
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Dick Morris seriously just needs to admit that he has a mancrush on Bill.

6/3/2007 12:49:20 AM

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The only reason this would be remotely newsworthy is if their behavior was worse than the current administration.

So, what's worse? Accepting flights from a "crummy" company or being neck deep with Haliburton and the World Bank?

6/3/2007 2:00:40 AM

drunknloaded
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i'm going with kneedeep in haliburton and world bank as being worse

6/3/2007 2:07:32 AM

kdawg(c)
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Is this even news? We've been hearing about this ever since Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas running for President in 1992.

What should be headlined is the fact that Hilary is a socialist. But again, that's not news.

6/3/2007 5:16:16 PM

Arab13
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i won't vote for clinton, ever

6/4/2007 10:18:16 AM

jccraft1
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who is going to vote for her, that is the question

6/4/2007 2:23:41 PM

roguewolf
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"This sounds exactly like the Clintons Bushes to me.

They just don't give a shit.

That doesn't necessarily mean they aren't right for the presidency."


Yet....


However i short all this hypocricy has got to have America thinking, are they any real honest people to lead us left? Has the system been broken by our own doing?

I mean Clinton, Edwards, Richardson and just about every Republican candidate outside of Romney (for now).

Another topic for another time.

[Edited on June 4, 2007 at 3:09 PM. Reason : dur]

6/4/2007 3:09:26 PM

synchrony7
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I smell a reality TV show...

6/11/2007 3:03:21 PM

wlb420
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She's right about her not making up the rules......and until we have major campaign finance and lobbyist reform they'll all keep doing it.

It further backs my belief that the law shouldn't be a guage to determine right and wrong.

6/11/2007 3:12:43 PM

RevoltNow
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"All you Clintonistas out there"

who?

6/11/2007 3:14:43 PM

Socks``
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Dick Morris.

6/11/2007 5:48:11 PM

Arab13
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"Yet....


However i short all this hypocricy has got to have America thinking, are they any real honest people to lead us left? Has the system been broken by our own doing?

I mean Clinton, Edwards, Richardson and just about every Republican candidate outside of Romney (for now).

Another topic for another time."


mostly that anyone who gets in one of these posistions of power is generally a horrible human being

6/13/2007 9:49:30 AM

EarthDogg
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Clinton Tape 'Captures Commission of Crime,' Lawyer Argues
By Fred Lucas,CNSNews.com Staff Writer. June 19, 2007

(CNSNews.com) - A videotape shows New York Sen. Hillary Clinton committing felonies and should be admitted as new evidence in a California civil case, a forthcoming legal brief to be filed by Friday argues.

The tape shows Clinton -- currently the leading Democratic presidential contender -- speaking in 2000 with Peter Paul, a Hollywood mogul, and comic book icon Stan Lee about a massive fundraising event for her 2000 Senate race. Paul spent about $2 million of his own money to produce the event. The legal contribution limit to a candidate then was $2,000.

"The evidence is of that rare type that captures the very commission of a crime, namely, that of knowingly soliciting, coordinating and accepting federal campaign contributions far in excess of the legal limit of $2,000," says the brief to be filed by Paul's attorney with the Court of Appeal, 2nd Appellate District arguing in favor of including the tape as evidence.

Cybercast News Service first reported the existence of the tape in April.

A portion of the videotape captures the closing words of a lengthy conversation in which Paul was present.

The voice of Hillary Clinton is heard telling Lee that Paul and her chief campaign aide "talk all the time, so she'll be the person to convey whatever I need." She is then heard adding, "I wanted to call and personally thank all of you ... [and] tell you how much this means to me. It's going to mean a lot to the president, too."

Clinton and her supporters have maintained that she had no direct knowledge that the event violated campaign finance rules. In a written declaration for the California court filed on April 7, 2006, the senator said only that she didn't remember discussions with Paul about the fundraiser.

"I have no recollection whatsoever of discussing any arrangement with him whereby he would support my campaign for the United States Senate in exchange for anything from me or then-President Clinton," Clinton said in the declaration.

"I do not believe I would make such a statement because I believe I would remember such a discussion if it had occurred," she added.

The Federal Elections Commission already ruled that Clinton's 2000 campaign committee underreported cash it received at the fundraising event Paul sponsored. The FEC slapped the campaign committee with a $35,000 fine.

The fallout from Paul's Hollywood fundraising event also led to the federal indictment of David Rosen, the senator's campaign finance director, who was acquitted on charges of lying to the FEC.

Paul alleges this tape proves Clinton and her campaign were not truthful to either the FEC or the grand jury investigation that led to Rosen's indictment.

Neither Clinton's presidential campaign nor her Senate office returned phone calls regarding this story Tuesday. Likewise, Clinton's attorney David Kendall did not respond.

In recent briefs in the case, Clinton's attorneys point out that Paul pleaded guilty to manipulating the company's stock price. He has a previous felony conviction of defrauding the Cuban government in the 1970s.

The U.S. attorney's office for the Eastern District of New York gave copies of 90 tapes to Paul on April 11. The office had taken possession of the tapes six years ago during an investigation of a securities case against Paul in 2001.

Paul was the majority partner with Lee in a multi-million dollar Internet venture in 2000 before the company collapsed.

Paul contends that President Clinton had agreed to work as a rainmaker for the company after he left the White House in exchange for the massive star-studded fundraising event in Hollywood which Paul produced that included Cher, Whoopi Goldberg, John Travolta, Brad Pitt, Sugar Ray, and Queen Latifah.

Trying to stay out of the lawsuit while she ran for reelection to the Senate and laid the groundwork for a presidential campaign, Clinton used a California statute intended to protect political candidates from frivolous lawsuits.

That's where this tape could be key, said election law expert John Armor, who has tried election laws since the 1960s.

"The tape shows her committing several crimes," said Armor, who is not a party to the case but will appear on camera for a documentary Paul is producing on the case. "The court either should accept it on appeal, or bump it back to the trial court."

Past precedents have denied the introduction of new evidence into appeals proceedings because it either could have been introduced at the trial level, isn't conclusive or contains a factual dispute, said Paul's attorney, Colette Wilson with the U.S. Justice Foundation.

That would not apply here, she said.

"This is set apart. It's a wow case," Wilson told Cybercast News Service. "At the trial level, this would have changed everything"


It takes a village to keep an eye on that wascally Clinton.

[Edited on June 25, 2007 at 10:23 AM. Reason : .]

6/25/2007 10:22:41 AM

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