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"Tommy Morrison prepares for MMA debut Thu, Jun 7, 2007 By Associated Press CAMP VERDE, Ariz. -- Tommy Morrison says an MMA fighter is no match for a trained boxer. And he plans prove it Saturday night in a cage outside a casino in northern Arizona. Morrison, the former world heavyweight champion who tested positive for HIV 11 years ago, will make his mixed-martial arts debut in an unsanctioned bout at Cliff Castle Casino against John Stover, a 325-pounder who outweighs Morrison by more than 100 pounds. ''I'm just going to walk out and hit him on the chin,'' Morrison said at a news conference Thursday night. ''I'm concerned about killing someone. I'm not kidding. ''We're trained to hit a moving target. These guys run in with their chin hanging out.'' The brash-talking Morrison remains a boxer at heart, and he hopes for another shot at the heavyweight title. But for now - and for an undisclosed sum - he's venturing into the wild world of MMA. Morrison, who said he weighs about 213 pounds, said he has done little MMA training, although he expressed concern about wearing four-ounce fingerless gloves. ''I'm a little nervous about that - not for myself but for the other guy,'' Morrison said. ''To me, it just seems like someone signing up for assassination class. He must be out of his mind.'' Stover didn't attend the news conference, and there were questions about whether he would show up for the fight, which will be held about 90 miles north of Phoenix. ''I'm sure he's on his way,'' promoter Peter McKinn said. ''If it was me, I wouldn't be on my way.'' Morrison's MMA venture is the latest chapter in the colorful life of the man who beat George Foreman, stopped Razor Ruddock and fought Lennox Lewis. Morrison seemed on his way to a big-money showdown with then-champion Mike Tyson when he tested positive for HIV before a 1996 tuneup bout in Las Vegas. The 38-year-old Morrison has been attempting a comeback after an 11-year retirement following the discovery that he was HIV positive. Morrison claims he has taken several HIV tests during his comeback bid and all have been negative. ''They've been telling me I've been dying for 11 years,'' said Morrison, who became emotional as he discussed the subject. McKinn said Morrison would not have to take a blood test for the MMA fight. The bout is being held on the Yavapai-Apache Nation, outside's the state boxing commission's jurisdiction. The fight is not part of Morrison's three-year contract with Top Rank. McKinn said he was trying to arrange a Top Rank-sponsored boxing match for Morrison at Cliff Castle June 29. ''I'm a boxer,'' Morrison said. Morrison returned to the boxing ring earlier this year in West Virginia, knocking out John Castle in the second round. MMA star Dan ''The Beast'' Severn (81-15-7) will fight Victor Vincelette (2-2) in the main event Saturday night. Severn, who turns 50 next year, wrestled at Arizona State from 1976-80 and served as a coach there until 1986."

http://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=141187&t=0

6/8/2007 9:37:54 AM

who in the hell would get in a cage to fight him when he has fucking HIV?

6/8/2007 9:50:32 AM

^please tell me you're joking

6/8/2007 9:54:17 AM

I'm not. I don't want to draw blood on someone with HIV while I have open wounds on myself.

6/8/2007 9:59:25 AM

HE DOESNT HAVE HIV

6/8/2007 10:06:16 AM

^ Cured?

6/8/2007 10:16:49 AM

213 lbs? He's going to get juggernaut smashed.

6/8/2007 10:18:29 AM

Hey dipshits, read the damn article.

6/8/2007 10:18:51 AM

He says the test which said he was positive was a mistake. He now has to take a HIV test prior to every boxing match and no longer tests positive.

6/8/2007 10:19:01 AM

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"^ Cured?"

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"Hey dipshits, read the damn article."

thank you

6/8/2007 10:24:24 AM

still too much of a risk for me.

He did test positive once. And that's enough for me to stay the fuck away.

6/8/2007 10:28:13 AM

this is retarded

hes obviously fighting out of his weight class which means several things

1) this shit aint gonna be sanctioned
2) the result wont go toward any record, so it is a meaningless fight that wont prove anything
3)there are very few superheavyweights in MMA that are worth a shit, why not go down to LHW (205 in most cases) or fight heavyweight

im sure whoever this stover guy was handpicked because he most likely has a tendency to only strike, and probably employs no ground game to speak of to neutralize the one dimensional boxer

...in fact im sure this guy is nothing more than a swing for the fences brawler, and tommy will se his boxing experience and pick the big, most likely slow guy apart

id put my money on Tommy winning this fight, its obviously nothing more than a statement fight to saveface for boxers who act like MMA is going to eat them alive when no one but them sees it that way

i say tommy will win, but I hope he loses not because he is shouldering the cause of boxers, but he is completely disrespecting the sport by calling professional mixed martial artists talentless bums, but wont take the time to get an MMA fighters license, but in the time to find a competitive weight for him, and get in the game and prove his point the right way, at LEAST an amateur sanctioned fight as there is plenty of solid talent even in those ranks

ending my rant

[Edited on June 8, 2007 at 6:02 PM. Reason : j]

6/8/2007 6:01:19 PM

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"but he is completely disrespecting the sport by calling professional mixed martial artists talentless bums, but wont take the time to get an MMA fighters license, but in the time to find a competitive weight for him, and get in the game and prove his point the right way, at LEAST an amateur sanctioned fight as there is plenty of solid talent even in those ranks"

Chill out, your acting like Tommy Morrison isn't himself a bum. This is simply a pay check for both fighters, nothing more. I don't know about the other guy, but Tommy needs it. And don't take what he says seriously. He's just trying to create buzz so he can get more money. That being said, I'm still interested to see how this turns out. The thought of a heavyweight with four ounce gloves is scary.

6/8/2007 6:13:23 PM

well im not ever goign to call anyone in combat sports a bum, at least not intentionally

6/8/2007 6:17:49 PM

Of course Tommy had HIV. The first test wasn't no fucking mistake. Nowadays you can take drugs which will keep the HIV virus to virtually undetectable levels. It doesn't change the fact that he had the virus, and probably still has it in trace levels.

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"Back in the 1980’s, there was no direct test for the HIV virus. Instead, we tested for antibodies to HIV, proteins made by the body to attempt to fight off the infection. This is an indirect but very reliable test. However, once you develop antibodies to HIV, they never go away; once you test positive for HIV antibodies, you never test negative. This is likely the type of test Morrison was subjected to in February1996, that he claims was incorrect. In more recent years, two things have changed. First, a direct test for the presence and amount of virus in the blood has been developed. Second, effective treatment for HIV has emerged. So effective, with time many patients will reduce the amount of virus in their system to levels so low that the direct test for virus in the blood will be negative. The most famous case of this type is Magic Johnson. He tested positive for HIV by the antibody (indirect) test in the late 80’s. He was treated with the three-drug combination therapy, and after a number of years the quantity of virus in his system fell to zero, as measured by the direct viral test. However, his antibody test remains positive to this day. Morrison is not specific in as to the type of test he claims has been negative four or five times over recent years. Dan Rafael of ESPN.com quoted him yesterday, “they can't find any virus. I have taken test after test and they have all come up negative.” In that same article, Rafael quotes former Nevada State Athletic Commission chief Marc Ratner, reiterating what he has steadfastly maintained over the elapsed eleven years. "I can say unequivocally that he tested positive," Ratner said, "and that's why he did not fight. . . that night (February 10, 1996)." So these two statements are not necessarily in contradiction. Morrison could well have been positive by the antibody test in 1996. And, with treatment, he could test negative today by the direct virus test. Was this the case, an antibody test done today would be expected to be positive, while a direct virus test today would be negative. "

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"The medical community believes that a zero measurement seems to indicate not that all traces of the virus have been eradicated; only that the viral load has fallen below our ability to measure it. The HIV remains in the system, just at very low levels. And if the patient stops taking medicine, the virus will return to high levels. In Morrison’s defense, there are a few reports of patients who have remained free of measurable HIV virus even after ceasing to take medication. But these outliers are a severe minority in the medical literature. Morrison has also claimed to have never taken anti-HIV medication. However one of his ex-wives (the second of two ex-wives named Dawn, to whom he was married simultaneously, for those keeping score at home) maintains in a 2006 interview with Hearne Christopher, JR., of the Kansas City Star that Morrison was indeed taking the anti-viral cocktail. Indeed, most of his disability income, $1700 of $1800 a month, was going to pay for the medication. Further, the stated cause of his disability was HIV infection."

http://ringsidereport.com/rsr/news.php?readmore=1033

He's all roided out in this picture:



[Edited on June 8, 2007 at 7:03 PM. Reason : 2]

6/8/2007 6:59:39 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/06/08/morrison.hiv.ap/index.html

6/9/2007 6:49:50 AM

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"http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/06/08/morrison.hiv.ap/index.html"

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"Dammit100: ^please tell me you're joking"

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"Dammit100: HE DOESNT HAVE HIV"

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"Blind Hate: Hey dipshits, read the damn article."

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"Dammi100: thank you"

I'll accept apologies.

6/9/2007 1:54:12 PM

i read an article where he said the test that came up positive was wrong and that he doesnt have aids

6/9/2007 2:06:49 PM

would you fucking read the thread before responding with your inane bullshit?

6/9/2007 2:18:15 PM

also, whoever quoted that bullshit about being able to falsify an HIV test by taking drugs needs to do some serious reading. HIV isn't something you just supress to get around drug testing.

Besides, you'd think someone that starred in Rocky V would want to stop taking medicine and let their mockery of a life end quickly and without further embarrassment.

6/9/2007 2:22:54 PM

So this guy has HIV?????

6/9/2007 3:40:37 PM

i know this isnt really on topic, but while driving home from atlantic city today, i saw abillboard advert for a kimbo slice cage fight at one of the trump properties.


lawl

6/9/2007 5:10:59 PM

^i think that he is fighting in cage rage, but kimbo has been properly training for this fight for awhile now

im actually excited to see what he does

6/9/2007 5:20:35 PM

this on tv?

6/9/2007 10:07:18 PM

did he win?

6/10/2007 12:33:50 AM

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"I'm concerned about killing someone. I'm not kidding."

From fighting or HIV? j/k

6/10/2007 1:14:31 AM

gunn won....he's a pussy though no takedowns...no leg strikes. wow he can beat an mma guy in a boxing match, congrats.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/06/10/morrision.mma.ap/

6/10/2007 7:44:13 AM

o thats not a fucking mma bout thats bullshit tommy morrison is a clown


this is why he took the non sanctioned route so he could pull shit like this, stover might have actually been a fuckin decent opponent but they added those retarded stipulatons an hour before the fight...so what the fuck he was suppose to do

that shit proves nothing, im sure boxing wants nothing to do with that clown morrison or his "mma" fight result

[Edited on June 10, 2007 at 8:56 AM. Reason : c]

6/10/2007 8:52:55 AM

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"Stover said he originally agreed to the bout despite a stipulation against grappling, a big disadvantage for the 340-pound Stover, who outweighed Morrison by 125 pounds. But an hour before the fight, Stover said he was told he would not be allowed to strike Morrison with his knees or feet. That essentially reduced the bout to a boxing match with five-ounce gloves."

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"But even with the rules tilted in his favor, Morrison struggled to put away Stover, a 36-year-old sheetrock hanger from Pine Ridge, S.D. Early in the bout, Stover tied Morrison up and ran him into the fence. Morrison looked at the ref, his eyes wide, as Stover threw a series of ineffective right hands at the side of his head. "I wanted to knee him," Stover said. Asked how the fight might have gone under traditional MMA rules, Stover said, "If I could have went to the ground, he would have been done in 30 seconds, maybe." Morrison also wore shoes, which are typically not allowed in MMA competition."

MMA, only with the rules of boxing!


Morrison would have gotten his butt kicked in a real fight.

6/10/2007 10:03:39 AM

horse shit fight

6/10/2007 11:50:14 AM

I bet the Carolina Panthers could beat the San Antonio Spurs in basketball as long as they used football rules.

6/10/2007 2:19:52 PM

TOMMY GUNN WINS






































DUE TO AIDS

6/10/2007 2:28:03 PM

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" Morrison would have gotten his butt kicked in a real fight."

Obviously. The end of Rocky V taught us that.

6/10/2007 7:05:17 PM

there are reports that morrison tested positive for hiv in jan 07

6/12/2007 6:36:25 PM

Thats not surprising at all.

The guy is a liar and drug addict who will say anything.

And he has bitch tits.

6/12/2007 6:44:17 PM

bitch tits ?

6/12/2007 6:45:30 PM

6/12/2007 6:50:10 PM

usually i think of bitch tits as fat and pointy

his seem pretty muscular.

6/12/2007 6:53:47 PM

Those are implants, dude.

He's got the AIDS wasting syndrome, and his body is falling apart.

6/12/2007 6:58:15 PM