Ok, so we adopted this dog a few weeks ago from the Wake shelter, took her to the vet, everything looked great. After a few weeks, she still is not really eating very much. She is supposed to be eating about 3.5 cups of dry food a day and is maybe eating a cup. She won't eat in the morning and will only eat her food at night if something is mixed in, like ground food or cheese. Even then, she still doesn't eat much. She has thrown up the yellow bile several times (And from what I read, this means she is hungry?) And tonight, after she ate some dinner, she immediately threw it back up. We will be calling the Vet in the morning, but I wanted to see if anyone had any idea what this is?

6/11/2007 10:38:46 PM

put her on a bland diet of cooked rice and ground beef

6/11/2007 10:42:30 PM

bullemic dog...feed her rectally

6/11/2007 10:43:06 PM

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"She has thrown up the yellow bile several times (And from what I read, this means she is hungry?)"

Never heard that one before

The dog won't vomit like that if he's hungry. She'll eat the food you provide.

But yes, a bland diet is a good idea, but I would recommend cooked chicken and rice instead of beef, it typically works better. However, calling your vet tomorrow is the best plan

[Edited on June 11, 2007 at 11:08 PM. Reason : .]

6/11/2007 11:08:14 PM

Yeah I'm cooking her some chicken and rice right now

6/11/2007 11:10:50 PM

Since you are able to do that, don't feed a large amount at one time. Just feed about 1/2 a cup or so and see if she can hold it down. If she does, feed a little more in about 30 minutes at the very earliest. If you feed a substantial amount, it could cause her to continue to vomit.

6/11/2007 11:16:17 PM

awww thats sweet

6/11/2007 11:16:28 PM

my dog can only last 5 mins in the car without puking

its rather annoying

6/11/2007 11:44:50 PM

She ate her chicken and rice like she hadn't eaten in a year and she kept it all down! Still goin to the vet tomorrow though to see how we can keep her tummy happy, plus she loves the vet office so its a treat.

6/12/2007 1:03:19 AM

maybe she doesnt like her dog food

6/12/2007 1:18:15 AM

my dog does that with the cheap dog food

he keeps the good stuff down just fine (blue, canidae, etc)

6/12/2007 1:49:45 AM

could also be heartworms, diabetes....

6/12/2007 6:31:36 AM

you should definitely get a stool sample, but you can also try quartering a 20mg pepcid AC tablet and giving her one quarter every 8-12 hours

if you can't get her to drink water, mix in a little boullion or broth (however, you don't want her tanking up on water, either so be careful about that also)

[Edited on June 12, 2007 at 6:55 AM. Reason : s]

6/12/2007 6:54:49 AM

She drinks a ton of water, has been tested for heartworms and that was negative. She had a fecal test 2 weeks ago that was clean. Its not that cheap of food, its Purina Beneful.

6/12/2007 8:15:04 AM

rofl

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"bullemic dog...feed her rectally"

6/12/2007 8:22:20 AM

beneful. I know a dog who throws up when he eats certain pieces. That could be your dog's problem.

6/12/2007 8:48:52 AM

i bet its due to letting the dog drink all that lake water

6/12/2007 8:56:28 AM

Purina is "okay". Not the cheapest but not considered premium.
If your dog does have a sensitive stomach then I'd consider switching to a premium food.
talk to your vet about it. There are the organic wholesome foods that some dogs do excellent on. 2 of my dogs have sensitive stomachs and didn't do well on those. They have been on Proplan sensitive skin and stomach for years and I recommend it. #1 ingredient is salmon (which is great for my shar pei's skin) and will make her coat shine.
everyone is going to recommend something different. just make sure you switch brands gradually.

the chicken and rice diet always works for me when a dog goes off feed.

dogs appetites also sometimes decrease in the summer due to the heat and humidity.
since you just adopted her it may be stress/nerves and she's still adjusting.

6/12/2007 8:58:54 AM

^^ She hasn't done that in like 2 weeks now, thanks

6/12/2007 9:16:09 AM

my dog used to throw up that yellow stuff every morning for a while and one day he just stopped doing it, my vet said not to worry about it, that it was normal behavior for a young dog

6/12/2007 9:53:53 AM

Our vet wanted us to bring her in to get xrays. I think we are going to try different food first. I have picked the Science Diet Lamb and Rice? Any opinions?

6/12/2007 10:41:35 AM

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"Its not that cheap of food, its Purina Beneful."

that is crap food, seriously.
this is the ingredient list for Beneful:

Quote :

"Ground yellow corn, chicken by-product meal, corn gluten meal, whole wheat flour, beef tallow preserved with mixed-tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), rice flour, beef, soy flour, sugar, sorbitol, tricalcium phosphate, water, animal digest, salt, phosphoric acid, potassium chloride, dicalcium phosphate, sorbic acid (a preservative), L-Lysine monohydrochloride, dried peas, dried carrots, calcium carbonate, calcium propionate (a preservative), choline chloride, vitamin supplements (E, A, B-12, D-3), added color (Yellow 5, Red 40, Yellow 6, Blue 2), DL-Methionine, zinc sulfate, glyceryl monostearate, ferrous sulfate, niacin, manganese sulfate, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin supplement, biotin, thiamine mononitrate, garlic oil, copper sulfate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), calcium iodate, sodium selenite. "

that is awful. you have to go down 7 ingredients to get to a meat...and the very first one is GROUND YELLOW CORN.

science diet is generally okay but what you really want to do is READ THE LABELS. the first ingredient should be meat (not meat byproduct and definitely NOT a grain), and ideally the 2nd ingredient should be a meat or meat byproduct too. even better if the 3rd is too, but that's only in a select few.

the ingredients that follow that should NOT be like 7 different grains. that means the grain quantity is higher than the meat, and that's not what you want either. if your dog has a sensitive system, try to avoid foods with corn. something like Bil-Jac that's not so highly processed is also good for a sensitive stomach, but it's not as crunchy so either only feed that food for a short time or start brushing the dog's teeth regularly.

there are different levels of "premium foods" too...regular premium and super/ultra/etc premium.

without getting into overwhelming detail, just read the labels.


[Edited on June 12, 2007 at 12:08 PM. Reason : ]

6/12/2007 11:58:39 AM

^ what he said

6/12/2007 12:19:28 PM

This is the Science Diet:

Lamb Meal, Brewers Rice, Rice Flour, Ground Whole Grain Wheat, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Corn Gluten Meal, Cracked Pearled Barley, Animal Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Chicken Liver Flavor, Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride, Iodized Salt, vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Taurine, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract.

6/12/2007 12:25:04 PM

*she

those ingredients aren't too bad, but i try to avoid the corn gluten meal w/ my dog who has a super sensitive stomach and skin...but that's just me.

i'm sure your dog will be 10000x better off on SD than Beneshit.

6/12/2007 1:37:39 PM

The yellow stuff is most likely just stomach acid. Mix her water and food before you feed her. There are several things that cause dogs to throw up...one is food expansion in their stomach. If they eat then drink all their water, the food will expand too fast in their belly and she will keep throwing it up. Also, feed her eairler in the morning. A different feeding time may stop a lot of that. 6am 1pm and 7pm is when i feed my dog.

6/12/2007 2:41:02 PM

My dog used to throw up the yellow bile in the morning because she didn't have enough food at night. I keep food out all the time and luckily my dog does not over eat. However when we first got her she would throw up the yellow bile in the mornings.

The vet said it was because she didn't eat enough at night and she was sleeping on an empty stomach and would awaken with stomach acid. So we were told to give her bread at night...sometimes with little peanut butter on it for a couple weeks. She stopped throwing up ever since.

Sometimes you have to regulate their diet so that they eat during proper times. My dog now only eats when we eat. She thinks it must be dinner time so I need to go eat. However I don't know if she eats during the day or not, since I am not there. Most likely since it feels like I am buying 50lbs bags at least once a month. But she is not overweight and very athletic.

Also be careful changing foods, as this can cause them to throw up as well. It's best to slowly do it by mixing the new food with some of the old, so that they get used to the new foods. I've changed my dogs food several times because 1) her breath stunk with the cheaper food, 2) her stool dropping were not firm and since I walk her not fun to pick up, 3) upset her stomach and would throw up or not eat much.

[Edited on June 12, 2007 at 3:27 PM. Reason : ]

6/12/2007 3:26:54 PM

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"The yellow stuff is most likely just stomach acid. Mix her water and food before you feed her. There are several things that cause dogs to throw up...one is food expansion in their stomach. If they eat then drink all their water, the food will expand too fast in their belly and she will keep throwing it up. Also, feed her eairler in the morning. A different feeding time may stop a lot of that. 6am 1pm and 7pm is when i feed my dog."

this is called bloat.

if you have this problem regularly, then feed bil-jac b/c it's not produced in a high heat extruder like other dog food pellets. it will not expand in water.

6/12/2007 3:34:27 PM

So a lot of people seemed to pan different Purina varieties.

What do you guys think of Purina Pro Plan Selects?

6/12/2007 4:03:35 PM

corn gluten meal is still pretty high on the list for the turkey and lamb varieties, but the fish one looked okay.

6/12/2007 4:13:26 PM

Basically anything that's got corn gluten or wheat gluten something or other anywhere remotely close to the top I try to steer away from. This goes for cat foods as well. These are cheap fillers that the pet food companies stuff into the food. These won't fill your dog up and will just make them eat more to feel full and then you'll have a fat unhealthy dog.

6/12/2007 4:33:14 PM

I'd give your vet a look if she wants to do x-rays on something like your dog throwing up, especially if she's doing well on the chicken and rice thing.

My dog used to throw up in the morning if we didn't take him out quick enough, or if he got really excited. It was just this thick, liquidy yellow stuff that just was nasty as hell.

Agreed on the corn stuff. Corn is awful for dog food. Dogs are carnivores, they need meat. Meat, not a meat by product, should be the top ingredient. I feed my dog Blue Buffalo:

Chicken, Chicken Meal, Whole Ground Brown Rice, Whole Ground Barley, Rye , Oatmeal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Potato Flour, Tomato Pomace, Whole Carrots, Whole Sweet Potatoes, Ground Flax Seed, Alfalfa, Herring Oil, Sea Salt, Barley Grass, Sunflower Oil (preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Calcium Phosphate, L-Carnitine, Dried Kelp, Whole Garlic Cloves, Lecithin, Parsley, Glucosamine, Spirulina, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Green Tea Extract, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Bacillus Subtilis, Bifidobacterium Thermophilum, Bifidobacterium Longum, Enterococcus Faecium, Zinc Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Zinc), Choline Chloride, Iron Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Iron), Turmeric, Vitamin E Supplement, Manganese Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Manganese), Natural Color, Beta Carotene, Copper Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Copper), Potassium Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Potassium), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Ascorbate (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Calcium Pentothenate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Hydrochloride, Potassium Iodide, Biotin, Cobalt Proteinate (source of Chelated Cobalt), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Sodium Selenite

It doesn't hurt to toss your dog some broccoli or frozen peas mixed in her food once in awhile. Love the ruffage

Either way, hope your pup is feeling better.

6/12/2007 6:36:34 PM

Instead of Science Diet, we went with the Nutro Natural Choice Lamb Meal and Rice with the following ingredients:

Lamb Meal, Ground Rice, Rice Flour, Rice Bran, Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Natural Flavors, Soybean Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Sunflower Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Whole Brown Rice, Dried Egg Product, Dried Plain Beet Pulp, Potassium Chloride, L-Lysine, Dried Kelp, Choline Chloride, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Taurine, Ferrous Sulfate, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Biotin, Copper Proteinate, Niacin, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Vitamin A Supplement, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Chondroitin Sulfate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid.

6/12/2007 6:36:35 PM

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"I'd give your vet a look if she wants to do x-rays on something like your dog throwing up, especially if she's doing well on the chicken and rice thing."

It's called, "Covering their ass by doing their job." A vomiting dog could be a sensitive stomach or it could be an intestinal blockage, thats why Vets may recommend to do X-rays for something like "throwing up." If a vet said, "Oh yeah, just feed a different food and lets see what happens" and the dog was obstructed and died that night, then the Vet could be sued. It's the vet's job to rule out all possible causes.

Back to the topic, some people mentioned by-products. I know the only chicken by-product Science Diet uses is chicken neck, which is a big difference than the feet which can also be classified as a "by-product." By-products aren't necessarily a bad thing, somewhere along the way, it became a naughty term. I look at it this way...most of the people who harp the most about by-products recommend feeding a holistic diet. Well, the most holistic diet there is, is the BARF diet (Bone And Raw Foods) which is typically the whole chicken, by-products and all!

I hope your doggie feels better with the new food. A higher quality food can make a world of difference in how your pup will look and feel

[Edited on June 12, 2007 at 8:05 PM. Reason : .]

6/12/2007 8:04:33 PM

^ Must not have been that important for her to get the Xrays done because they didn't have any space to see her until Friday. She did eat the chicken and rice just fine, just not her dog food, which makes me think the Xrays shouldn't be the first resource, but a diet change should. I also wanted to get her weighed to make sure she isn't losing weight. We fed her the new food tonight and she ate almost all of it and hasn't been sick yet, so its looking good so far.

[Edited on June 12, 2007 at 8:55 PM. Reason : oh and BARF= Biologically Appropriate Raw Foods ]

6/12/2007 8:51:06 PM

my dog, who is also from the Wake County Shelter, has been peeing out of his butt and puking all week...

best way to fix it: white rice and boiled white chicken -- one serving per day.

now, if there is blood in the poop or puke, then they may need an antibiotic (this also happened about a week after I adopted my dog a year ago).

In the end, your dog may not like the food, so get her something expensive (not that beneful crap though because, at least my dog, hates the taste)...

last resort, perhaps your dog's stomach just needs a rest, so don't feed it for a day, day and a half (of course, give it lots of water)... at least that's what my vet said to do, and it worked.

and in case anyone who read this is wondering, my dog isn't sick anymore, it finally passed and he is back to his ole self.

[Edited on June 12, 2007 at 10:23 PM. Reason : .]

6/12/2007 10:19:56 PM

So, she finished all of her dinner last night and her breakfast this morning, so it seems to me like she just hated the food. WTF Purina!?! She eats her new premium food like there is no tomorrow, so I guess thats a lesson I learned. Plus, she only needs to eat about half the amount of that compared to the Purina and I don't have to mix anything in to get her to eat it, so it actually ends up saving us money, even though its 25 bucks for a 20 lb back compared to 10 for the other. And I didn't have to pay for X-rays!

6/13/2007 9:21:29 AM

glad it worked out for you.

yea premium food is a little more expensive (not as much as people think though- like you said you feed a smaller amount because it's quality and not as much filler)
It really is worth it in the long run. dogs live longer and are healthier.

6/13/2007 9:24:16 AM

hammster, i cant wait until you have children

6/13/2007 9:41:40 AM

Okay, whatever that means

6/13/2007 10:19:44 AM

i used to feed my dog beneful for about 3 years. she never had a problem with it and always seemed to enjoy it.

then about 4 months ago she went on a vomit spree in my house overnight and i woke up to about 15 spots of throw up. figured it was something she ate. next day she was better, but after that episode she would randomly throw up after eating.

i swithed her to something different and now she gets dry skin/ hot spots, but no more purging after dinner. i found a supplement called Missing Link that is supposed to be miraculous, so I just started her on that to see if that helps with her shedding/dry skin/ itching. Its also really supposed to help hips and joints.

6/13/2007 11:02:37 AM

^What are you feeding her now?

6/13/2007 2:00:23 PM

i had this problem in my dog last year, it ended up being Canine parvovirus

6/13/2007 2:05:30 PM

^^ cant remember the name. vet recommended it though

6/13/2007 3:38:56 PM

where is the best place to get premium food?

6/13/2007 4:04:14 PM

^Petsmart sells some better brands. Wellness, Royal Canin, and Nutro to name a few.

6/13/2007 7:33:03 PM

premium food is a serious waste of money. it's all made of the same shit, and is all just as good for the dog.

6/13/2007 9:12:29 PM

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"It really is worth it in the long run. dogs live longer and are healthier."

don't know about that . . . my parents last dog lived to 16 eating store brand. She didn't have any problems until someone attacked her

6/13/2007 9:24:03 PM

You can feed her scrambled eggs (b/c that's what their dry food is made of), chicken, rice, and chicken broth! It's easy on the tummy. My dogs were like that when we first adopted them! They're kind of in shock!

I know that this is sorte of off topic, but I would never buy a dog...I adopt! I'm huge on adopting, because I have such a big caring/nurturing heart. When I go into pet stores and I see kittens or puppies, I literally cry b/c I can't take them all home

6/14/2007 7:10:16 PM

I'm definately not an expert, but I'm pretty sure dog food isn't made from scrambled eggs. And she was adopted, not bought, although I guess we did have to pay for her at the shelter

6/14/2007 9:56:53 PM