bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
I tried pulling up one of the old speeding threads, but one i couldn't reply to becuase it's locked, the others are too old. Yes, I used the "search" feature.
I got pulled in Graham county (Mebane area). The State trooper said it was becuase he clocked me at 80 in a 65. Yes I was speeding, I was moving with traffic, my bad, i got caught, I didn't think I was going that fast but whatever.
I've never been pulled for anything, no accidents nothing, so this is my first court anything.
My question is should I get a lawyer, or show up myself and try to get it reduced to 9 over. Is it really as easy as asking to get it reduced to 9 over?
Part II) I was traveling with a group of people. we were in two seperate vehicles and both of us got pulled over. after getting back on the road my friend called me and told me that my vehicle is listed on his ticket, as well as on my ticket. Both his name and driver's license number is correct, but the vehicle is wrong, so there are two tickets out there for both of us driving the same vehicle at the same time on the same day.
Does this effect anything?
Is my best choice to get it reduced to 9 over? or should I hire a lawyer? 6/22/2007 12:40:22 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
a lawyer will be the easiest way with the highest chance of success
the whole vehicle thing...probably wont matter 6/22/2007 12:42:38 PM |
jdman the Dr is in 3848 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " My question is should I get a lawyer, or show up myself and try to get it reduced to 9 over. Is it really as easy as asking to get it reduced to 9 over?" |
yes, it is exactly that easy to get it reduced. I've done it several times in several different counties
and was this on I-85? that's a real speed trap area - be careful through there from now on!6/22/2007 12:48:23 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
yea, on 85 in the speed trap area, I didn't even think about it, i was moving with traffic and BAM blue lights....
oh well,
does a 9 over still go to insurance? even if I have no previous problems? 6/22/2007 12:49:42 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^go yourself and ask for a PJC.....I did this a few years ago no problem...won't go on your ins either. You could get a lawyer, but it's not necessary imo. 6/22/2007 12:51:43 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "go yourself and ask for a PJC.....I did this a few years ago no problem...won't go on your ins either. You could get a lawyer, but it's not necessary imo." |
NO DONT DO THIS FOR SOME STUPID SPEEDING TICKET6/22/2007 12:54:00 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
I read that a PFJ is one per household per 3 years?
What is a household, I live at school not at my parents house?
Do i have one seperate from theirs? Or am I still in their household becuase I am on their insurance policy?
and no i do not think i am going to try to use a PFJ, I am going to either get a lawyer or do it myself, but I don't want insurance to go up.
[Edited on June 22, 2007 at 12:55 PM. Reason : no] 6/22/2007 12:54:46 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
one per policy 6/22/2007 1:00:47 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NO DONT DO THIS FOR SOME STUPID SPEEDING TICKET" |
worked fine for me, no lawyer fees, no ins increase, and it was long enough ago that I can use one again if need be. I'd do the same thing again.6/22/2007 1:00:57 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
one per policy is not an option for me then. Little brother used it on another ticket 6/22/2007 1:03:17 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "worked fine for me, no lawyer fees, no ins increase, and it was long enough ago that I can use one again if need be. I'd do the same thing again." |
well you can get the same thing if you ask the assn. da to reduce it to 9 over and you still have it to use if you fuck up big time6/22/2007 1:07:01 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
my biggest question right now is, does 9 over go to insurance.
I've seen in some other threads that it can? but only if they want to charge you more? seems like they would want to, but does a 9 over always get reported to insurance? 6/22/2007 1:10:15 PM |
prep-e All American 4843 Posts user info edit post |
just show up at court and plead 'no contest' and you'll be fine
i've had 4 speeding tickets within the last 4 years between 13mph-17mph over the limit and they've reduced them all to 9 over every single time, no lawyer necessary, no points on my license, no insurance increases, i still pay only $70/month
***total loss was $440 for all 4 tickets ($110 court fees x 4 tickets)***
[Edited on June 22, 2007 at 1:12 PM. Reason : /] 6/22/2007 1:11:19 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/growth/traffic/speed/story/576619.html
Quote : | "review Raleigh police officers' use of a city code violation to cite speeders. The N&O reported Sunday that Raleigh police treated about a quarter of the 20,000 people they reprimanded for speeding with a city code citation instead of a ticket for breaking state law. The city code citation carries no insurance or driving record penalties. Raleigh police have no policy on which drivers get this break. " |
find out about that in that area.....also, might want to look into a improper equipment reduction
^9 over still carries insurance penalties tho, doesn't it?
[Edited on June 22, 2007 at 1:13 PM. Reason : maybe not]6/22/2007 1:12:11 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
^ my ticket is in Graham county, not Wake, but thanks for the heads up. 6/22/2007 1:14:25 PM |
prep-e All American 4843 Posts user info edit post |
^^only if they report it to the insurance company, which is rarely the case, unless you're out-of-state
but even still, i've had an out-of-state ticket that wasn't reported to my insurance company
[Edited on June 22, 2007 at 1:15 PM. Reason : /] 6/22/2007 1:14:37 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
^ is there any way to get them to not report it? or is just whatever happens happens 6/22/2007 1:18:40 PM |
budman97420 All American 4126 Posts user info edit post |
Just walk in and get it reduced to 9 over they do this a thousand times a day (they ask you if you want to do this when you show up). In addition, it is not reported and your insurance won't know and your rates won't increase.
[Edited on June 22, 2007 at 1:27 PM. Reason : .] 6/22/2007 1:23:20 PM |
pigkilla All American 2332 Posts user info edit post |
you would waste money on a lawyer for this
i don't know how many people i have seen ask the da for a speed reduction and it not have an effect on their insurances.
please save your money and just be at the court house early before court starts and the da ALWAYS handles traffic tickets before the judges gets to the bench. 6/22/2007 1:23:23 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
my ticket says 10am, i was planning on being there at least by 9:30, but I should go earlier? be there by like 9? 6/22/2007 1:27:43 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
I'm pretty sure that's Alamance County, right? Graham is pretty close to me, but not SUPER close. it's also the one town I've noticed (besides greensboro) out here that has city frontage on the interstate (like city limit signs)
i bet that town pulls in a million dollars or more a year just off the speeding ticket revenue they get from having half a mile on 85/40.
definitely go with the go to court yourself FIRST. ive been in wake, durham, and a couple others, and the aDA has always offered the plea deal without asking... if the A/DA doesn't offer you the deal, ask about it. if they say no, tell them you need time to contact a lawyer and ask for a continuance.
worst case scenario, everyone is an ass and you get scolded twice.. by the ada and the judge, but you WILL DEFINITELY still get a new date and opportunity to hire/call a lawyer. and if you need a lawyer, i can get you a recommendation from one here in GSO. i just got a letter last week. i got a 14 over on that part of 40, except it was right inside guilford county. took it to my lawyer, and he got it reduced to 0 over. aka dropped. guess i wasnt really speeding.
and dont take a PJC, especially if you ever plan on doing anything fun in your life. those things come in handy for much bigger stuff and get wasted on tickets all the time.
i know i feel i am above the common wolfweb person when it comes to the law (although I DID just lose a speeding ticket completely AHEM)... seriously even if you dont listen to me, call a lawyer (you will get letters next week) and ask for advice. ( the guys that mail out letters arent bad lawyers btw. theyre SMART!!!1)
just dont listen to "the wolfweb".] 6/22/2007 1:28:28 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
^ thanks,
I'm taking in all the information and then deciding.
but thanks
i have a $110 ticket at 30 dollars in court costs.....
Can i get a lawyer for that/less to possibly get it reduced to 0? not a ticket? 6/22/2007 1:33:44 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
no you have a $30 ticket with $110 in court costs 6/22/2007 1:36:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
you can use a PJC more than once every 3 years...if its something as relatively insignificant as a speeding ticket they usually dont check...they'll just ask you if you've had a PJC
hypothetically if you get another ticket in a year for speeding, go to court, ask about a PJC, they'll say have you had one before you say "i dont think so" and they'll give you another...they just want your money 6/22/2007 1:39:58 PM |
pigkilla All American 2332 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "just dont listen to "the wolfweb"." |
this nigga just wrote a fucking book, and then said this, hahahah jackleg is a goddman idiot.6/22/2007 1:41:26 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
ok, I thought i read it the other way... anyways, can i get a lawyer for less than that, or willl i have to pay court costs either way, so a lawyer will cost a lot more?
It seems now the best choice for me is to go to court myself and get it down to 9 over. 6/22/2007 1:43:19 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
if you use your PJC and get caught again w/in the time frame then both tickets will count against you
i have had 16 speeding tickest 12 were reduced to 9 over
used my PFJ last year for an unsafe movement charge which was worse than my speeding tickets and now way to reduce or get out of it unless i hired a lawyer
SAVE YOUR PFJ6/22/2007 1:44:06 PM |
pigkilla All American 2332 Posts user info edit post |
GO IN AT 9 AM MAN. THATS ALL YOU NEED TO DO. THE REST WILL FALL IN PLACE. 6/22/2007 1:45:02 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
WHAT UP PIGKILLA 6/22/2007 1:45:41 PM |
pigkilla All American 2332 Posts user info edit post |
NOTHING, JUST THINKING ABOUT SOME BLACK PUSSY I AM TRYING TO GET. WHAT ARE YOU UP TO? 6/22/2007 1:46:35 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
same here homie 6/22/2007 1:46:47 PM |
pigkilla All American 2332 Posts user info edit post |
good good
i guess we will have to talk more about this in chit chat to conserve the level of rational posts in this thread. 6/22/2007 1:48:00 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
they do just want your money, especially in graham.. if you ever see a "welcome to / bumfuck city limit" sign on the side of the road, slow down a lot.
it means you have city, state, and county cops clocking you. all the drug trafficers know this, ese!!1 but seriously, slow it down when you see that
as for getting it cheaper. call the attys that mail you stuff. i know it seems like theyre scumbags cause they solicit business through public info, but thats just smart - ignore it a lot of the ones that SPECIALIZE in traffic will take it for 50-100
the 110+30 is gonna be your minimum, attorney or none, no matter what you plead to. BUT talk to those attys and see if they can promise something better. cause i did just remember that wake county is a bitch about tickets and they wont drop tickets due to improper equipment/etc/etc. you might be able to to this in alamance, and save yourself all those costs.
just dont make a decision from here unless its based on soemthing said by a guy named alamance_attorney - hahha
and the lying about a PJC - you NEVER want to get caught lying about that, unless you wanna go to jail for 30 days on the spot. dont listen to them, im telling you! 6/22/2007 1:48:03 PM |
pigkilla All American 2332 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha
^ this guy has to be kidding only himself. 6/22/2007 1:50:08 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
how many speeding tickets did you get dropped this week?
[Edited on June 22, 2007 at 1:53 PM. Reason : i mean just curious if youve logged 1000 hours in court yet] 6/22/2007 1:52:10 PM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
refer to pages 6 and 7 for questions about insurance points:
http://www.ncdoi.com/consumer/consumer_publications/automobile/a%20consumer%20guide%20to%20automobile%20insurance.pdf 6/22/2007 1:52:56 PM |
pigkilla All American 2332 Posts user info edit post |
^^ you don't know anything about me
but i know all i need to know about you 6/22/2007 2:00:47 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
ok so, If i get it reduced to 9 over,
I get no insurance points because 1) it was not a school zone, and 2) I have had no other violations.
That's what I was looking for... Thanks 6/22/2007 2:03:09 PM |
pigkilla All American 2332 Posts user info edit post |
no
because you get points for 10+ over the speed limit 6/22/2007 2:03:46 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
jackleg
Quote : | "hypothetically if you get another ticket in a year for speeding, go to court, ask about a PJC, they'll say have you had one before you say "i dont think so" and they'll give you another...they just want your money " |
how is that lying about a pjc? "i dont think so" != "no i have not used a pjc in the last 3 years"6/22/2007 2:05:50 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
^ my understanding of what I just read is that, if I get the ticket reduced to 9 over, and that's how it gets filed, I will get 0 insurance points becuase of what I said above... but let me go re read it though 6/22/2007 2:06:08 PM |
pigkilla All American 2332 Posts user info edit post |
^^ thats coming from the same guy that said don't listen to tww
^ under 10 miles over it doesn't get reported to the insurance company as a liability of unsafe driving. if you can understand this, i just don't know what to say.
[Edited on June 22, 2007 at 2:08 PM. Reason : sdfg] 6/22/2007 2:06:47 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
9 over is the insurance limit
however there are other laws when the ticket is above 60mph
for example, a 60 in a 45 reduced to 54 in a 45 is money
79 in a 70 is a different story
back when i had a heavy foot i had a 90 in a 60 and an 84 in a 60 within 8 days...lost license for a month...two tickets over 60mph in 6 months = lose license for a month
[Edited on June 22, 2007 at 2:07 PM. Reason : .] 6/22/2007 2:06:58 PM |
pigkilla All American 2332 Posts user info edit post |
^ your 70 and 79 comparison makes no sense. still only 9 over.
my sister have a tickets in the 80's reduced to 84 and guess what. no insurance increase.
[Edited on June 22, 2007 at 2:10 PM. Reason : asdfa] 6/22/2007 2:09:17 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
deleted.... for the sake of not confusing anyone
[Edited on June 22, 2007 at 2:12 PM. Reason : .] 6/22/2007 2:09:43 PM |
pigkilla All American 2332 Posts user info edit post |
jesus you are making this hard. i give up. 6/22/2007 2:10:29 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
^ my response was not to you, we posted at the same time...
You are helping alot, it's every one else that is confusing me 6/22/2007 2:11:41 PM |
budman97420 All American 4126 Posts user info edit post |
^ there will be no increases for your insurance after you get the ticket reduced to 9 over plain and simple. 6/22/2007 2:13:06 PM |
pigkilla All American 2332 Posts user info edit post |
PLEASE SAY IT AGAIN 6/22/2007 2:13:27 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Speeding 10 mph or less in excess of speed limit of less than 55 mph" |
1 pt
Quote : | "Speeding 10 mph or less in excess of speed limit of more than 55 mph" |
2 pts
according to the link above.6/22/2007 2:17:07 PM |