i didnt want to make a brand new guitar thread for a simple question but all hte other ones were too old to bump :/. maybe people can keep this one bumped, or use it for other guitar questions so this thread isnt wasting space.

Right now im running an '83 Ibanez Roadstar(that ive put a decent bit of money into) through a Mesa. I love the sound for what i normally play and what my band writes/plays. However, I have the guitar set up for C(everything just dropped 2 whole steps) and thus it does not like to be in standard tuning.

ive played for 5 years or so but without any lessons. Im starting lessons tonight after work on some theory, scales, arpgeggios yadda yadda yadda, however at work I realized they might want me to have a guitar in standard tuning for lessons. I didnt even think of this until just now because my guitar is always in C 24/7 for the band.

Basically, to make a long story short, im looking for suggestions on a decent guitar to have around to keep in standard. Probably a strat. Looking for something with a decent rock sound (think smashing pumpkins). Note tho, that this guitar is not going to be a show guitar or a serious one, i already have my main guitar. Im looking for something for like 200 bucks tops maybe, but something that is not a piece of crap. any suggestions that i can keep in the back of my mind while looking around would be helpful.

7/24/2007 2:12:12 PM

I'd say to go ahead and drop $400 for a Mexican Strat or Tele. I think the cheapest ones are kind of assy, but I've seriously had and played my cheapass Mexican Stratocaster for 13 years and it still kicks ass.

7/25/2007 11:36:18 AM

would it be so hard to make a guitar hero game with a real guitar

that would fucking rock

7/25/2007 11:40:30 AM

^^ good deal ill look into what i can afford soon

^ no i dont think it would be hard in the least. i mean think of tuners, it takes like what 10 bucks (retail value not at cost) worth of simple electronics to read exactly what note you are playing? thats the only recognition you need too really. i think they just feel it would have a much more limited audience

7/25/2007 11:45:53 AM

make it "Guitar Hero Extreme: Gonna Kick Your Ass Up and Down the Stage" thing or something

I would totally buy a system, game, and guitar just for the opportunity to learn how to rock out while playing a video game

i would pay...

$700-1000 whatever, if I could get all that action going down

[Edited on July 25, 2007 at 11:48 AM. Reason : .]

7/25/2007 11:48:40 AM

man you may be onto something for sure, id patent this if theres still room for a patent for something like this (this may be out there for computers or something i really dont know)..itd be an awesome way to teach kids to play guitar. instead of videos where you just play along or readings tabs..combine it into one with a metronome and such and it scores the kid and decides when he is ready to move onto the next scale, chord, etc. At the end of each lesson/level whatever after the student has learned a set of scales/chords etc. it could unlock song riffs that use those things you learned to play along to

find a $ backer and we'll work something out


[Edited on July 25, 2007 at 11:54 AM. Reason : ]

7/25/2007 11:52:30 AM

I want a Rickenbacker 370 in the worst way!

7/25/2007 11:53:07 AM

I've never liked the looks of the beveled Rics for some reason, but I really like the 330. I've played a bunch, though, and they just feel too fragile for me to play on a regular basis.

7/25/2007 1:11:02 PM

If you are looking for pumpkins sound, I know the Billy Corgan's main guitars are Strat's so...but I think that is kinda strange for straight ahead rock. He plays them through all kinds of fuzz effects (Fender Blender, etc..)...stats are awesome guitars though...I just think most straight up rock is like..tele's or les paul's or something..

anyone own a 335??

7/25/2007 1:45:40 PM

I had a 335, but it was too cumbersome, which is why I switched to the Thinline with humbuckers. I've since sworn off humbuckers, but it's a nice compromise other than the scale length (and since it's a Tele, I suppose getting a 24 3/4 neck for it would be pretty simple).

7/25/2007 1:55:36 PM

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"they just feel too fragile for me to play on a regular basis."

Maybe, but I'd sacrafice sturdiness for the range of sounds you could produce with a stereo signal.


OH YEAH

[Edited on July 25, 2007 at 3:12 PM. Reason : asdf]

7/25/2007 2:59:43 PM

^^^ yea, when it comes to playing guitar im a complete metalhead so all my gear has been based around that, so i really havent looked into producing other kinds of sounds as much

[Edited on July 25, 2007 at 3:06 PM. Reason : ]

7/25/2007 3:06:23 PM

Really, the only thing you need for a basic SP sound is a Big Muff. You can get Strats with Lace sensors and Bogner amps and all that shit, but the Big Muff is the heart of the early '90s SP sound.

The stereo on a Ric is cool and all, but I'm a simple guy. Give me a big hunk of wood (Tele or Junior) with a single coil pickup in it and I'm good to go.

7/25/2007 3:18:40 PM

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=487473

7/26/2007 11:50:28 PM

Quote :

"I want a Rickenbacker 370 in the worst way! "

7/26/2007 11:58:00 PM

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"anyone own a 335??"

had a copy of one. sold it years ago, though.

Quote :

"Really, the only thing you need for a basic SP sound is a Big Muff."

Got one. that and a Vox wah. most of the time, i just use amp overdrive.

have a BOSS processor (floor type), but i don't use it much.


i've got a '91 Gibson Firebird, an old Gretsch Corvette, and a Mexi-Strat. Amp is a 60W, 3 channel Peavey Triumph...but I'm selling it and getting a Hot Rod Deluxe.

[Edited on July 27, 2007 at 1:17 AM. Reason : or maybe hot-rodding the Peavey...i don't know]

7/27/2007 1:14:15 AM

^ If you get a Deluxe, make sure you find one with the Jensens. It's about $150 more, but it's worth it.

Just curious, are you doing any gigging? 40W is a still a ton if you're not. There are some nice choice available in that price range that are 18/32W switchable or, in the case of the Orange Tiny Terror (it's a head, though), 7/15W switchable. If you want an amp with awesome drive that won't blow your ears out, there's always the AC15.

7/27/2007 1:35:09 AM

if anyone is looking for a crate gx-212+ dual speaker 120W amp, i'm getting ready to put mine up for sale. this thing is a monster for jamming and makes a great amp for small-venue gigs

I'm also going to sell my old epiphone sg and pick up a schecter omen or 006 diamond series.

[Edited on July 27, 2007 at 1:40 AM. Reason : ]

7/27/2007 1:37:37 AM

^ Isn't that a solid state amp?

7/27/2007 1:59:47 AM

those crate 212s are awesome little practice amps, thats what ive used for years now.

but yea live, tubes ftw. recently traded in my peavey 5150 for a mesa dual rec and mannnnnn i love it.

7/27/2007 8:03:53 AM

I run a les paul through a Boss GT6 into a Marshall 1959SLP reissue head and a 4x12 Marshall slant cab.

7/27/2007 10:02:13 AM

yea i need a new cab too unfortunately now. im looking at either a marshal or a matching mesa, this might have to take priority over getting a second guitar atm :/

my peavey cab (that i kept when i traded my 5150 head in for credit on the mesa) just had a caster break and it also has been buzzing really bad with the new mesa head (i borrowed other people's cabs the last 2 shows and didnt have a problem with any buzzing, and it doesnt buzz using our other guitarist's mesa cab at the practice space).

besides having to spend the money, a mesa or marshall cab would sound much better, so i guess thats a plus side to it.

7/27/2007 10:23:08 AM

This is what I'm rocking on right now, a Yamaha C40:

7/27/2007 10:45:54 AM

Something like THIS???

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7/27/2007 10:48:09 AM

yea thanks spookyjon actually linked that and ive looked at it for sure. my previously mentioned cab problem is having to take priority at the moment so i gotta see how much money i have

7/27/2007 10:49:29 AM

Ok.

7/27/2007 10:58:29 AM

Here's the cab you want CtA:

7/27/2007 11:31:54 AM

hehe. dont get me wrong, i love orange amps, but i dont know that ive ever heard someone use them for metal (not saying i wouldnt use one because 'its not metal', simply i wonder how it would sound with a mesa running through it )

7/27/2007 11:34:18 AM

They have really great bass response because of the way they're built and Celestion Vintage 30s just like the Mesa cabinets...so I dunno.

7/27/2007 11:43:50 AM

interesting. might have to hook my head up to one and see

7/27/2007 11:49:25 AM

That reminds me...I miss my Sovtek heads. I had the MiG-50 (Bassman) and the MiG-50H (JCM800) and they were both awesome. Cheap, too.

*sigh*

7/27/2007 12:04:06 PM

you know what i havent even looked in this mesa to see if theyre using sovtek or electroharmonix tubes, i just played through it and was satisfied. but just yesterday i was thinking of seeing what it has in there out of curiosity

7/27/2007 12:09:38 PM

^ Check out JJ/Tesla tubes. You'll spurt.

7/27/2007 3:02:13 PM

anyone here play jazz guitar? i've been playing a while but trying to get into jazz. i swear i'm all fumble fingers, it feels like i've just picked up the guitar for the first time. i haven't been this frustrated in a long time.

7/27/2007 7:32:50 PM

It has built in sound effects for when you pull the trigger on the gun lol


btw

Anybody ever check out those edwards japanese made guitars? I hear they're really awesome quallity, they also have great prices.

[Edited on August 1, 2007 at 10:55 PM. Reason : .]

8/1/2007 10:52:57 PM

One of my buddies has an Edwards LP, and it's a nice guitar, but not my thing. Definitely better than an Epiphone LP, but I'm not sure if it's $300-400 better.

8/2/2007 2:02:41 AM

I'm mostly talking about the s style models. $850 for a Stevie Ray tribute

$850

$860

$1000

$760

The relics all look very nicely done

8/2/2007 3:16:39 AM

Still have my '97 G&L Legacy running through a Peavey Classic 30.

Question--who would y'all recommend for getting work on a guitar done? I've noticed recently that a couple of the springs on the bridge of the G&L are kind of corroded, and I figure while getting those replaced it would be a good idea to get a "checkup" done, make sure that things like truss rod adjustment and whatnot are still in good shape. I've heard good things about Harry's on Glenwood, opinions or alternatives?

8/2/2007 10:17:26 AM

I'd go to Harry's.

8/2/2007 10:23:07 AM

Quote :

"I'd go to Harry's."

8/2/2007 10:29:31 AM

givin my baby a little tune up this weekend, im changing strings, changing batteries in my active pickups, tightening up my input jack and cleaning the whole guitar off good .

im weird about changing strings, i LOVE broken in strings as opposed to new ones, i like a good week at least of practicing with em before i use em live heh

8/2/2007 11:55:03 AM

bah http://greenville.craigslist.org/msg/385641264.html

i wish i made even a little bit more money haha. that guitar is a HUGE steal if it is in good playing condition. that guitar is generally about 700+ from any music store new with 250 worth of pickup work put into it for only 550 bucks.

still got a couple hundred left to pay on my head and looking for a cab tho >.< i have a little bit of money in savings but eh not worth it for a guitar

oh and btw http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-RG1570-Electric-Guitar?sku=519965
thats the MF item info

[Edited on August 2, 2007 at 4:07 PM. Reason : ]

8/2/2007 4:04:33 PM

Go to Harry's. They'll take care of you.

It's finally time for me to do a little restoration job on my '66 Mustang...it needs new pickup selector switches, new pots, and a new whammy bar (because the strings go under the tailpiece, you basically need the whammy bar to even change them). StewMac to the rescue!

BTW, is anyone interested in a set of Sperzel in-line tuners that are polished chrome instead of brushed? I've never seen a set like them, but they were put on my old Alvarez Strat copy when I was in eighth grade.

8/2/2007 4:05:29 PM

8/4/2007 12:33:12 AM

dakota_man sings in Bb, bitches.

8/4/2007 1:30:31 AM

this shouldn't even be humanly possible. someone inbed (no rickroll):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baDM3_6w8-E&mode=related&search=

8/5/2007 9:21:56 PM

using new strings for the first time in awhile. ive used standard elixirs for a long time, even in C-standard tuning. But ive heard a lot about the Zack Wylde GHS strings for awhile now. Picked up a pack this weekend and tested em back to back with a full set of my normal elixirs and a full set of slinkys: they really sounded beast. They are 10-13-17-36-52-60 gauge.

I didnt like the feel of the .60 for my 'E' (C) string so i messed around and ended up with what i thought was my best sounding setup which wound up being the .52 gauge 'A' (F) string from the Zack Wylde set as my 'E' String, the elixir 'E' as my 'A', then from there on out it was the 36-17-13-10 from the zack wylde set.

the playability is down a little bit from using standard gauge as can be expected...but these strings are also brand new and not worn in. They sound REALLLY full. pretty stoked to see how they sound at our next show.

8/6/2007 12:48:48 AM

tool songs are fun as hell to play.

that is all.

8/6/2007 12:57:29 AM

^^ You ever try flatwounds? Might be interesting to see what they do with the kind of gain you use.

8/6/2007 1:23:14 AM

I am running a stock Ibanez RG1570 through a Marshall JCM2000 TSL 100 Head + the 1960a cab.

In D standard w/ 11s.

I would like to learn more about my equipment.

8/6/2007 2:28:08 AM