dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
A friend of mine is just starting her career as a teacher and her pyscho ex boyfriend of the last 4 years is apparently trying to make it difficult for her. He has been threatening to send pictures of her (nothing too racy, but bad enough) to her principals and other teachers if she doesnt come back to him. Would that actually have the effect he's hoping it will, and what could be done to prevent it without beating the shit out of him? This should have interesting responses. flame on. 8/1/2007 5:43:58 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
On behalf of TWW, I request that said evidence (pictures) should be posted in this thread as public record so that the court of TWW could continue this investigation 8/1/2007 5:45:25 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8/1/2007 5:46:49 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
^ 8/1/2007 5:55:37 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
one call to the police and he will be behind bars.
and even if he sends the pics, they won't have any effect, unless the pics show some unlawful act. 8/1/2007 5:56:27 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they won't have any effect" |
you must not have been paying attention to the news the last year or so8/1/2007 5:57:21 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
Thats what shes afraid of, but that all seems to be more teachers who sent stuff to students, or teachers who had stuff on the internet. 8/1/2007 6:01:10 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
you mean the american idol scandals, or the beauty pageant scandals?
as i said, unless she is doing something illegal in the pics, or something legal that teachers shouldn't do, they will have no effect.
who knows what the pics are. the OP should explain more. he says they are nothing racy, but "bad enough". what does that mean???? bad enough for what? and if they are not sexual in nature, in what sense are they bad/controversial? i dont'get it.
what if they are naked pics of her inside her house, or pics of her having sex with her bf. is that illegal, or is that something teachers aren't allowed to do? 8/1/2007 6:01:21 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
She said theres pictures of her in her underwear, and a short video on his phone (bad quality, cant see much) of her giving him a bj 8/1/2007 6:05:53 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
oh ok, so nothing too bad 8/1/2007 6:07:57 PM |
FykalJpn All American 17209 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wmcstations.com/Global/story.asp?S=6857299
[Edited on August 1, 2007 at 6:09 PM. Reason : .] 8/1/2007 6:08:48 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i see no problems with that.
this was something that was done in private, and was supposed to stay privare. furthermore, this was a woman and man together, not some private sex party.
so, since this was neither posted by herself on the internet, and nor was it some drunken orgy, she is safe.
she should tell him she is sorry for ending the relationship (just to avoid drama), and that she want to please be left alone. if he relents, fine. otherwise, she should threaten him that she could call the police (but not in a threatening tone/manner), and that he could get into serious trouble, but she doesn't want it to happen.
if he still doesn't stop, then it is time to be angry on the phone and threaten police action. at this stage, 90+% of psychos would stop. but if he doesn't, then it is time to call the police.
end of story. 8/1/2007 6:11:24 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
Okay, thank you. 8/1/2007 6:29:36 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
You are welcome.
Ok NOW can we have the pics? 8/1/2007 6:33:15 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
no effect? thats like saying just because the duke lacrosse students were found not guilty that the whole ordeal had "no effect" no them 8/1/2007 6:34:18 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
haha... i dont even have the pics... ill try and make you all some new ones though 8/1/2007 6:35:34 PM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
FecalJapan.. what's your point? Did you read that article?
Quote : | "The department said Lowe was observed in the [adult]bookstore during work hours making a personal purchase with two department interns" |
8/1/2007 6:37:38 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "no effect? thats like saying just because the duke lacrosse students were found not guilty that the whole ordeal had "no effect" no them" |
come on dude...?!
those guys were accused of RAPE.
what will she be accused of if her pics become public... HAVING SEX WITH HER BF IN PRIVACY??? 8/1/2007 6:43:08 PM |
guth Suspended 1694 Posts user info edit post |
there have been teachers fired for pictures of them modeling in swim wear 8/1/2007 6:46:43 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^ that's just stupid, and while i condemn it, again, that's a funamentally different situation.
modeling is a public affair. those pics, as described by the OP were private and only between her and one man.
look, in the end, anything is possible. her school could be run by uptight prude assholes who think that couples taking pics of themselves doing sexual stuff is sinful or wrong or deviant, etc. and so, they might fire her.
but in her case, i am sure, if she sued, she would win big time.
[Edited on August 1, 2007 at 6:51 PM. Reason : ] 8/1/2007 6:48:44 PM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
if there are videos of a teacher giving a bj on the internet, i think shed get fired. schools don't want to deal with that shit and having that be the big thing passed among students 8/1/2007 8:18:42 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
Is she documenting his threats? 8/1/2007 8:46:52 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
Its not being put on the internet, he was threatening to send it to other teachers and principals. And she has gotten a few of the threats in text messages, but she hasnt gone to the police or anything yet. 8/1/2007 8:57:50 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
is it pics of her doing her students? 8/1/2007 9:05:01 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
^ look out. Here comes the Grand Old Perverts.
anything sexy, and i swear the religious right are just drooling all over the place
8/1/2007 9:19:54 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
it was a question ass. Given teacher scandals (women on boys), this wouldn't be particularly surprising. 8/1/2007 9:21:36 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And she has gotten a few of the threats in text messages, but she hasnt gone to the police or anything yet." |
Are they specific? I mean she could file a harassment complaint, they will at minimum visit him personally and tell him to stop. The longer it continues he is just gonna get more brazen, might as well take a stand now.8/1/2007 10:51:38 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
apparently hes said shes not worth it and hes given up... i've told her she should still say something about it, she plans on it if he says anything to her again. 8/1/2007 11:40:40 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
attempting to escort a teacher 8/1/2007 11:44:25 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
I can't believe nobody's suggested actually talking to the principal about it before he gets the chance to. If the principal is a reasonable man (or woman), then she should be able to have a short meeting with him and explain the situation, and simply tell him that she is being blackmailed, or being threatened. 8/1/2007 11:59:23 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
This is a problem easily fixed with a little bit of money and a phone call to a good lawyer.
or
2 guys with baseball bats and ski masks 8/2/2007 12:31:52 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "blackmail n. the crime of threatening to reveal embarrassing, disgraceful or damaging facts (or rumors) about a person to the public, family, spouse or associates unless paid off to not carry out the threat. It is one form of extortion (which may include other threats such as physical harm or damage to property)." |
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/blackmail
Possibly.8/2/2007 12:53:52 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " what could be done to prevent it without beating the shit out of him?" |
Why is this not an option? A guy like that deserves it.8/2/2007 9:00:20 AM |
wolfpack1100 All American 4390 Posts user info edit post |
There is not much she can do. She is in a bad situation. That is why you really have to be careful of doing anything that puts you in a bad situation down the road. She can go and tell her principal part of the story but then he will know something is going on. Going to the cops probably will not stop him. he can always post on the internet and then its over. Her best chance is to get the guy to give her the pics and the video.
[Edited on August 2, 2007 at 9:37 AM. Reason : golf] 8/2/2007 9:23:52 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That is why you really have to be careful of doing anything that putts you in a bad situation down the road. " |
Yeah I know, playing golf can make things tricky 8/2/2007 9:33:40 AM |
tchenku midshipman 18586 Posts user info edit post |
technically, a blow job IS illegal, isnt it? 8/2/2007 9:57:37 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "She can go and tell her principal part of the story but then he will know something is going on. " |
He will know "what's going on"? Yeah… that's the point. So he's not blindsided and has a knee-jerk reaction when/if he gets these pictures. If he's a good principal, then he will understand that she is being blackmailed and this has nothing to do with her job.8/2/2007 11:14:20 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
^^well, you could say that, even though if it were ever prosecuted, there is a supreme court case that basically deemed all crimes dealing with sex between consenting adults as unconstitutional. 8/2/2007 11:31:25 AM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
ladies, this is why you should never let men take lewd photos of you
unless the man is me
then it's cool. I won't show them to anyone... i swear 8/2/2007 12:36:06 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
i would have that faggot locked up for blackmail quicker than he would know what hit his dumb ass 8/2/2007 12:46:03 PM |
XCchik All American 9842 Posts user info edit post |
to repeat what's already been said - tell her to talk to her principle and department head.
Honestly, if the ex-bf does send the pictures then all the harm its going to do is embarrass her. Unless it's an illegal act or involves a student there would be no need for the school to get involved. But giving the principle the heads up is a good idea. She could find out if there was a way to block his email address from the schools webmail. but it wouldn't stop him from creating a new account. I know at our school an individual cannot email the entire school system without being a school employee. All he could do would be to look up the principle and other teachers emails on the schools website. Most principles emails go through a secretary/assistant first so she should warn that person too. Our principle rarely reads his own email.
It wouldn't hurt to talk to her schools HR dept and/or talk to a police officer about her options for harassment charges. Does this pyscho ex bf have parents she could contact? I'd assume after a 4 year relationship she would know them.. maybe she could explaint to them that their son is crazy and they could intervene. It would probably embarass him at the least. Or she could meet with him and try to talk things over with him. Remind him why they broke up in the first place. I'd suggest in public place with maybe a friend or 2 nearby.. or mutual friends. That way the friends can call him a pos and he might back down...
shrug 8/2/2007 2:42:01 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
i gather you're a teacher? you should learn how to spell principal, since he/she is your boss and all. 8/2/2007 2:48:09 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
I really don't understand why people let these pictures be taken. That said, send them to me and I'll review them to make sure she won't get in any trouble. 8/2/2007 2:48:40 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I really don't understand why people let these pictures be taken" |
i guess a bunch of LAMERS wouldnt understand [trolling ]
its naughty, its fun, its sexy.... and most of all its erotic.8/2/2007 3:21:05 PM |
synchrony7 All American 4462 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and even if he sends the pics, they won't have any effect, unless the pics show some unlawful act." |
While legally that might be what should happen, that is not what would happen. First of all, coworkers could make her work experience unpleasant (ranging from her feeling like an outcast to being harassed), and second there was a case earlier this year where a teacher who was in porn (long before she became a teacher) got fired.
It doesn't matter if it's perfectly legal or done in the privacy of her home, the school will see it as her being a bad role model and find some way to fire her. Sure you can fight it in court, and maybe she'd win.... but would she really ever want to go back to work there after that happens?
Quote : | "but in her case, i am sure, if she sued, she would win big time" |
I thought the goal was to keep her job and avoid embarrassment? If she really doesn't care about the embarrassment, she might as well show the entire staff the pictures herself. Then the threat doesn't work anymore. But if she got fired for that, it would take a really understanding principal at her next place of employment to hire her (and what is to stop the guy from just doing it again?).
[Edited on August 2, 2007 at 3:29 PM. Reason : .]8/2/2007 3:22:34 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i gather you're a teacher? you should learn how to spell principal, since he/she is your boss and all." |
Haha, even before I saw your post, and after I had read her's, I was like, we can't expect the whole population to know the difference between principle and principal, but at least TEACHERS should!8/2/2007 3:33:26 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
^ don't go they're
your such an asshole
durka durka 8/2/2007 4:03:35 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
no, your the racist asshole
i will go their if i want too
what now, bitche's??? 8/2/2007 4:06:41 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
teachers are some of the craziest bitches i've ever met 8/2/2007 4:41:36 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
100% agree, sparky all the female teachers that i know shouldnt be teaching children 8/2/2007 4:48:33 PM |