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Pupils DiL8t
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So whose idea was it to push this bill through Congress at the last minute? I'm guessing since the Bush Administration considers FISA unconstitutional, they may have had an ulterior motive here to do so. Does this bill address domestic surveillance at all? Does it need to? And why did the Senate leave these responsibilities in the Attorney General's hands? I thought they didn't trust this guy.

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"The Senate bill requires:

Initial approval by Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

FISA court review within 120 days. The final Democratic plan had called for court review to begin immediately and concluded within a month after the surveillance started.

The law to expire in six months to give Congress time to craft a more comprehensive plan."


http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/04/fisa.upgrade.ap/index.html

8/4/2007 3:28:10 PM

agentlion
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"The law to expire in six months to give Congress time to craft a more comprehensive plan. wait 179 more days before hastily approving it again for another 6 months with no review or additions. "

8/4/2007 3:35:51 PM

aaronburro
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nope. those same Democrats who ranted and raved about how illegal and wrong this program was have now PASSED it. Good work, guys...

Can't say that I'm surprised that Democrats went and robbed Americans of more of their rights, but then again, the Republicans would have done it too, so...

8/6/2007 7:39:20 PM

Shaggy
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We should just wipe out everyone in the fed and start over.


Ill be prez.

8/6/2007 9:35:42 PM

humandrive
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16% approval rating

8/6/2007 9:41:02 PM

sarijoul
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"Democrats pretty clearly got steamrolled on this. Until Thursday they were negotiating productively with Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell and had reached agreement on the bill's language. Nobody was making a big deal out of it because things seemed to be going smoothly. Then, at the last second, the White House rejected the language its own DNI had accepted and suddenly all hell broke loose. Democrats weren't ready for it, and with Congress about to adjourn and no backup strategy in place, they broke ranks and caved in. The only concession they got was a six-month sunset in the bill.

Was this the White House's strategy all along? To lull Dems into a stupor and then hit them over the head at the last minute with brand new demands? Hard to say, but it sure looks deliberate. Demorats are going to have to learn to play in the big leagues if they want to keep up.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/05/politics/animal/main3135604.shtml

8/6/2007 10:49:48 PM

AxlBonBach
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In Re: Sealed Case 02-001

it's a long read but well worth it.

8/7/2007 12:22:24 AM

agentlion
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as usual, The Onion is short and to the point
http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/congress_approves_surveillance
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"The Democratic-controlled House passed a bill that will allow wide-ranging domestic and foreign eavesdropping that would be authorized by a secret court. What do you think?


Rhonda Pryce,
Cashier
"It's like the old saying 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em,' except for the part about being beat."


Ed Albaugh,
Elevator Repairman
"You won't need to eavesdrop to hear this: I voted for you assholes because you said you were against shit like this.""

8/7/2007 7:40:24 AM

hooksaw
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Democrats Capitulate to President Bush as Congress Gives Government Broad New Powers to Conduct Warrantless Surveillance on American Citizens

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/06/1340209

Wiretap at Will
Congressional Democrats redefine spinelessness with the new FISA law.


http://www.slate.com/id/2171747



LMAO!

8/7/2007 12:24:54 PM

PartisanHack
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The Dems dropped the ball big time on this one. Fuck you and your one month vacation you spineless pricks. Stay your ass in congress and battle this shit tooth and nail. Fucking pansies. Fucking panty waist fucks.

We have guys dieing overseas and these cock rags caved so that they could take their precious time off.

Scum

all of them

8/7/2007 12:43:37 PM

sarijoul
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well brad miller voted against it. i guess i can't fault him. i just need to fault the leadership of the democrats for screwing this up.

8/7/2007 2:00:44 PM

hooksaw
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8/7/2007 3:01:00 PM

sarijoul
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who's whining here?

8/7/2007 3:01:49 PM

hooksaw
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"i just need to fault the leadership of the democrats for screwing this up."


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"The Dems dropped the ball big time on this one. Fuck you and your one month vacation you spineless pricks. Stay your ass in congress and battle this shit tooth and nail. Fucking pansies. Fucking panty waist fucks."

8/7/2007 3:31:37 PM

sarijoul
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how is that whining? it's truth.

[Edited on August 7, 2007 at 3:45 PM. Reason : at least what i said.]

8/7/2007 3:45:38 PM

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