Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/08/08/cfb.bag/index.html?bcnn=yes
Quote : | "Kings
Alabama, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Michigan, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Penn State, Tennessee*, Texas and USC.
* Tennessee is the lone school in the group that caused any hesitation. The Vols would have been a no-brainer 10 years ago, but they have fallen off the map a bit lately. In the end, I figured those 100 fans in Montana still know "Rocky Top," the checkered end zones and that Peyton Manning went there.
Barons
Auburn, Clemson, Colorado, Georgia, LSU*, Texas A&M, UCLA, Virginia Tech, Washington and Wisconsin.
* While LSU is clearly a premier program right now, its big-picture tradition does not match those of the 13 kings. However, if the Tigers were to add another national title here in the next couple of years, they may well graduate to that group.
Knights
Arizona State, Arkansas, Boston College, Cal, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas State, Maryland, Michigan State, Missouri, N.C. State, Oklahoma State, Ole Miss, Oregon, Oregon State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Stanford, Syracuse*, South Carolina, Texas Tech, Virginia, West Virginia and Washington State.
* In normal times, Syracuse would qualify as one of the barons, but they're just so darn bad and so irrelevant right now.
Peasants
Arizona, Baylor, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Duke, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa State, Kansas, Kentucky, Mississippi State, North Carolina, Northwestern, Rutgers*, South Florida*, Wake Forest and Vanderbilt.
* Rutgers is another program that could be on its way up a tier, and South Florida is here by default because it's essentially a start-up.
There is one school intentionally missing from the list, and that's because I have no idea where to put it: Louisville. History-wise, the Cardinals are peasants, but the program has completely reinvented itself over the past decade and now gets mentioned with the kings and barons. For now, we'll just say: TBD." |
Haha, I read this and the first thing that popped into my head was "fuck yeah, we beat UNC"
[Edited on August 9, 2007 at 12:49 AM. Reason : .]8/9/2007 12:47:52 AM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
ditto 8/9/2007 12:57:58 AM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
Trash Bin since the original article is so fucking stupid, anyway. 8/9/2007 1:00:51 AM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
Stupid? Dude, someone in the media actually picked us ahead of UNC in something.
Don't tell WRAL. 8/9/2007 1:06:03 AM |
spro All American 4329 Posts user info edit post |
you could make an argument for Georgia Tech being on the 'Barons' list 8/9/2007 7:05:58 AM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
i heard Carolina got a new head football coach 8/9/2007 8:14:53 AM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you could make an argument for Georgia Tech being on the 'Barons' list" |
I agree with that. Here are the bowls they made it to from 1997 to 2004. Not positive about after 2004. The site is not updated. But GT has a quality program.
Quote : | "2004 Champs Sports Syracuse W 51-14 2003 Humanitarian Tulsa W 52-10 2002 Silicon Valley Fresno State L 21-30 2001 Seattle Stanford W 24-14 2000 Peach Louisiana State L 14-28 1999 Gator Miami FL L 13-28 1998 Gator Notre Dame W 35-28 1997 Carquest West Virginia W 35-30" |
8/9/2007 8:19:48 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "kings...Notre Dame" |
So to be a king, you only have to get to a bowl game...if you get clowned for a decade in them it doesn't matter8/9/2007 8:37:46 AM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So to be a king, you only have to get to a bowl game...if you get clowned for a decade in them it doesn't matter" |
We still hang our hat on that Notre Dame beat down in the Gator Bowl for a reason... they mean something to college football. Its the same with Alabama, Nebraska, and Miami. THey might be n a rough patch now but they are big dogs for sure.
GT should easily be a Baron over Colorado, UCLA, Washington, and probably even VaTech.8/9/2007 9:47:07 AM |
FitchNCSU All American 3283 Posts user info edit post |
I don't see how Va Tech can be a "Baron" when West Virginia has a pretty damn good historical program and is a "knight".... and how Arizona is a "peasant" when they've historically OWNED Arizona State (especially looking at the last 25 years) and Arizona State is considered a "knight"
Either way, wierd article.
Quote : | "GT should easily be a Baron over Colorado, UCLA, Washington, and probably even VaTech." |
Agreed
[Edited on August 9, 2007 at 9:53 AM. Reason : :::]8/9/2007 9:48:55 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
"owning" Arizona State isnt saying much... 8/9/2007 9:51:46 AM |
FitchNCSU All American 3283 Posts user info edit post |
Touche 8/9/2007 9:52:11 AM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
There's no way GT should be a baron over VT.
Also, you could make the case that Clemson should be a Knight.
Guess it depends on how far back you go. 8/9/2007 9:57:17 AM |
FitchNCSU All American 3283 Posts user info edit post |
Georgia Tech...
John Heisman, four national titles (one of them in 1990), first team to ever win the "big four bowls", the most lop-sided victory in history, one of the winningest programs in NCAA history.... and they have the coolest fight song ever.
Georgia Tech > Virginia Tech 8/9/2007 10:02:28 AM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
^ ya rly 8/9/2007 10:41:21 AM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Obviously, a history of on-field success (national championships, major bowls) is the key component, but the program must also continue to maintain relevance " |
Hence my Quote : | "Guess it depends on how far back you go." |
8/9/2007 10:48:54 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't see how Va Tech can be a "Baron" when West Virginia has a pretty damn good historical program and is a "knight".... and how Arizona is a "peasant" when they've historically OWNED Arizona State (especially looking at the last 25 years) and Arizona State is considered a "knight"" |
Well UNC has OWNED us for the last 20 years and we are ahead of them.8/9/2007 10:56:08 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Georgia Tech...
John Heisman, four national titles (one of them in 1990), first team to ever win the "big four bowls", the most lop-sided victory in history, one of the winningest programs in NCAA history.... and they have the coolest fight song ever.
Georgia Tech > Virginia Tech" |
Just based on the simple fact that they beat a team 222-0 puts them up there
Also, I believe they're the only team to ever beat Florida, Florida State, and Miami in the same season... not that that's a program-definer, but interesting nonetheless.
Edit: And they do have the coolest fight song ever
[Edited on August 9, 2007 at 11:06 AM. Reason : ]8/9/2007 11:05:49 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
on a slightly related note, i got great seats for the Thursday night GT/VT game this year... should be a really good game 8/9/2007 11:31:12 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
^^also Calvin Johnson is still fresh in their minds 8/9/2007 12:40:40 PM |