So are you saying that people aren't opposed to the Iraq War?

8/30/2007 3:29:14 PM

hey, by the way, where are the cries/whining of "murder", "ban/censor!", etc when some idiot ZioNeocon shoots his mouth off and says "nuke Iran!" or "kill all dem Ayrabs!"??

hypocrisy?

8/30/2007 3:31:38 PM

quick question...do you believe that Angelina Jolie is a witch who practices black magic and whatnot?

8/30/2007 3:32:28 PM

Enemy combatants and immigrants really are the same thing! BRILLIANT!

8/30/2007 3:32:36 PM

You would hear the cries if you weren't so afraid of watching the news or picking up a newspaper.

8/30/2007 3:33:56 PM

The video looks fake

8/30/2007 3:35:13 PM

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"let me try to boil it down for you jewlitically correct nimwits one more time: advocate violent force against REAL invaders & REAL threats to the nation = "wrong"..."murder"..."racist"..."needs to be censorred"....blah, blah, blah advocate violent force against people who are NOT a threat to the nation and have done nothing wrong (eg, US military slaughtering thousands of Iraqis for resisting OUR invasion of THEIR country) = "not wrong"...."A-ok"...."government-approved"....politically correct"

You're not advocating the killing of invaders, you're advocating the killing of immigrants and blacks.

You can't call them all "REAL" threats unless you actually know they're a threat, and you can't determine that without investigating each one individually.

And, a good chunk of the people in this thread would also say the Iraq war was wrong too. But that's beside the point, because the insurgents there are actual militant insurgents, because we came in with guns blazing. I'm sure you'll agree that's a tad different than immigrants who have no malicious intent, by and large, who are looking for a better life.

I get the feeling though you advocate segregation, because that's the only way you feel you can compel other white chicks (or men?) to sleep with you. You should try just being nice to them.

8/30/2007 3:37:15 PM

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"There is no real evidence of any "extermination" plan, 6 million jews killed, etc. Only a so-called "confession" OBTAINED VIA TORTURE from Rudolph Hess, and other fabricated stories...eg, the bogus stories about "making soap and lamp shades out of jews", etc."

You might want to check the vaults in germany. Because there is far more evidence of "extermination" besides Hess. You are relying on a 20 year old conspiracy explanation.

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"That's just completely false. There ARE distinct differences in intelligence between the races. Tests have consistently shown, for instance, vast differences in IQ between whites and blacks. It's common sense. Look at the civilization created by whites...western civilization and all of its accomplishments -- scientific, artistic, etc. And then look at how blacks and other races have remained in the virtual stone ages for all of recorded history."

No, there aren't. Show me these tests, by any reputable (that is, any recognized educational or academic institution) source. You won't find them. There is no difference. You can make an argument for slight differences of muscle development. You can make an argument for slight differences in body composition. Neither of these have any impact on intelligence. And both are explained by culture and location far more readily than ethnicity.

Blacks and Arabs ran the civilized world for thousands of years. The library of alexandria in Egypt is widely regarded by historians as one of the greatest collections of knowledge in the history of the human species. The Chinese, Arabs and Africans were massively technologically and culturally superior to the germanic white populations for THOUSANDS of years.

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"And you are in favor of race-mixing, and allowing hoardes of non-whites to invade white nations? What I am concerned with is the survival of the white race as we know it, and an integral part of that involves whites have nations of their own exclusively for themselves (ie, to prevent race-mixing and the destruction of the white genotype). Nations historically consist of racially homogeneous populations, as this is the only way to preserve the ethnic & cultural identity of a people."

Why? The ONLY genetic different between skin colors is a single genotype, which doesn't "disappear" by gender mixing in reproduction. Ethnicity and Culture are not defined by skin color. You may think so, but you would be wrong historically. It hasn't been until the modern era that skin color has been a sign of class/worth.

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"If you advocate race-mixing and massive non-white immigration to white nations, you are (knowingly or unknowingly) advocating the destruction of these white societies. That is a real genocide (ie, the attempted destruction of an entire people). I have no problem with the non-white peoples of the world having nations of their own for themselves. So why shouldn't whites also have nations of their own? That is all I'm talking about here...ie, the right of whites to have nations of their own."

Because this concept in your mind does not exist in the majority of the world. The opposition you imagine, is not there. There is no "color war" outside of the small sect of neo-nazi white supremacists.

8/30/2007 3:37:32 PM

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"Enemy combatants and immigrants really are the same thing! BRILLIANT!"

You're using the gov/establishment-approved euphemisms and terminology for these groups. And it is very powerful, because it frames the debate.

In reality, the vast majority of the people in Iraq resisting the US invasion & occupation are "patriots", "freedom fighters", etc. They are doing right by standing up for their nation and people. They are not wrong to resist a foreign invasion and occupation. If, for instance, the Chinese invaded the United States, would U.S. citizens who fought back be "terrorists" & "insurgents"....or "patriots" & "freedom fighters"?

And you want to call ILLEGAL immigrants who are invading countries just "immigrants" or "undocumented workers"? In reality, they are foreign invaders. And in the not-to-distant past when sanity reigned, foreign invaders could be shot on the spot...no questions asked.

8/30/2007 3:37:57 PM

Duke

Stop knocking girls up and suspend.

8/30/2007 3:39:02 PM

lol - this guy is a huge douche bag

salisburyboy - seriously - get a fucking life you piece of shit

8/30/2007 3:39:23 PM

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" And you want to call ILLEGAL immigrants who are invading countries just "immigrants" or "undocumented workers"? In reality, they are foreign invaders. And in the not-to-distant past when sanity reigned, foreign invaders could be shot on the spot...no questions asked. "

You asserting that they are "foreign invaders" and thus enemies doesn't make it right to kill them.

Your premise that they are "invaders" is wrong, therefore your conclusions based on that premise are also wrong.

8/30/2007 3:40:33 PM

I believe everything I hear on Coast to Coast AM

8/30/2007 3:44:48 PM

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"salisburyboy - seriously - get a fucking life you piece of shit"

fuck off bitch

get back to yo pimpin' or whatever you nigs do

8/30/2007 3:45:19 PM

fake video

8/30/2007 3:45:58 PM

I wonder why he wants to get suspended so badly?

Is this his big martyrdom event?

8/30/2007 3:46:49 PM

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"fake video"

How so? Looks quite legit to me.

8/30/2007 3:48:41 PM

8/30/2007 3:49:18 PM

It was made by the Jews using pixar technology

8/30/2007 3:52:59 PM

yeah Steven Jewberg is a master of special effects

As long as Mel Gibsaryan isnt around

8/30/2007 3:57:48 PM

Then so the Russian authorities aren't really investigating the video?

8/30/2007 3:59:24 PM

Why would they investigate their own video that they made themselves?

8/30/2007 4:02:20 PM

I'll post the rest of the article for you:

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"The note also called for the resignation of President Vladimir Putin and for the establishment of a government formed by Dmitry Rumyantsev, the leader of the National-Socialist Society, a neo-Nazi group. It further demanded the release of Maksim Martsinkevich, the leader of Format 18, another Russian neo-Nazi group, who has been held since last month on charges of fomenting ethnic hatred and threatening violence. It was not clear when or where the video was made. But Alexander Verkhovsky, director of the SOVA Center, a private organization that examines hate crimes in Russia, said the video appeared to be real. Mark Tolchinsky, the acting spokesman for the Interior Ministry of Dagestan, a Russian republic in the Caucasus, said that investigators in Dagestan had watched the video, and also believed it to be authentic. Slightly less than three minutes long, the video begins with scenes of the countryside and the title, "Operation of the National-Socialist Party of Russia to arrest and execute two colonists from Dagestan and Tajikistan." For a date, it lists only 2007. The video then shows two terrified dark-skinned men kneeling in the forest under a Nazi flag. Each man speaks through a gag in accented Russian, saying only, "We were arrested by National Socialists." One has been bound with heavy tape, the other with rope. One of their captors shouts "Glory to Russia!" and then lunges forward and decapitates one of the men with what appears to be a large knife. Heavy metal music plays throughout. Later, the second captive is shown kneeling, head lowered. The bolt of a gun is heard to slam closed. The prisoner is shot in the head and falls face down into a grave. The video ends with two men in camouflage uniforms and black masks giving the Nazi salute. The graphic scenes drew heavy traffic on Russian-language Web sites, and prompted intensive commentary on Internet discussion groups. Many viewers, including those who identified themselves as nationalists, expressed horror and denounced the acts. Nationalist Russian politicians reacted similarly, and said the video was meant to discredit them. "This video tarnishes our image most of all," Evgeny Valyaev, an assistant to Nikolai Kuryanovich, a nationalist member of the lower house of Parliament, said by telephone. "It's a provocation, it's clear," he added. "In the near future, similar things will happen." A spokesman for the prosecutor general confirmed that the Interior Ministry and the FSB, a successor agency to the Soviet KGB, were conducting an investigation, but provided no further comment. Irina Zubareva, a spokeswoman for the Interior Ministry, told Ria Novosti, the Russian state press agency, that the video was originally posted from two foreign Internet domains. That claim could not be confirmed. Format 18 did not reply to queries sent by e-mail. A court in Moscow on Monday ordered Martsinkevich, the group's leader, to be held in pretrial confinement. Martsinkevich, who uses the name Hatchet, burst into a debate between two journalists on the state of democracy in Russia earlier this year with about 20 followers, and shouted "Sieg Heil!" and "slaughter the liberals!" while making Nazi salutes. Since his arrest, his supporters have labeled him a "prisoner of conscience." There was no immediate indication whether the video had been made by members of his group, his sympathizers or - as many ultranationalists on Web sites suggested - by people seeking to discredit him and the larger movement he has personified. Verkhovsky, who studies hate crimes, said the party claiming to have made the video had never been heard of before, and might be a very small number of people, as few as two or three. "Usually, such things are not done by members of well-known organizations, but by marginal people, even marginal for such movements," he said. Videotaped beheadings and executions, a gruesome propaganda tool used by insurgents by Iraq, have a history in Russia that predates the Iraq war. Chechen separatists have been accused of beheading captured Russian soldiers since the first Chechen war, in 1994, and recordings of such grisly acts have circulated in markets in the Caucasus for years. Three British citizens and a New Zealander working for a British telecommunications company were abducted in Chechnya and beheaded in 1998. Before they were killed, the men were forced to confess on videotape to spying. In recent years, neo-Nazis have also begun using Web sites and video to broadcast their violence and message, often showing severe beatings of immigrants. Verkhovsky said the video of the apparent execution and beheading was new ground for ultranationalists and Russia's neo-Nazis, and perhaps a "symmetrical reaction to Chechnya," where macabre video first became a staple for illegal groups."

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"Even "kosher" historians have revised down the numbers dead by MILLIONS...eg, from "4 million" at Auschwitz to current "estimates" at around 1 million."

Another blatant lie. The Soviets put a plaque at Auschwitz that mentioned 4 million based on absolutely no research. That is the only source of the "4 million" number that you love to throw out. No serious historians have ever used that figure.

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"the people in the German camps died mainly due to starvation & disease due to deteriorating conditions inside of Germany due to the massive Allied bombing of Germany)."

Then why didn't German citizens suffer from the same starvation and disease? There are numerous photos of German townspeople being forced to tour concentration camps adjacent to their town. If starvation and disease were as rampant as you claim then the Germans and the camp residents should be indistinguishable.

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"But if the Nazis were in favor of a German nation exclusively for ethnic Germans and were simply concerned with standing up for and defending the interests of the German people (ie, defending them against predatory ethnic foreigners), then that's one thing they were absolutely RIGHT on."

Tell that to Muslim Division of the SS recruited in Croatia. The Nazis were mostly an anti-Bolshevik party that threw in some BS about German history in order to appeal to German nationalism.

8/30/2007 4:06:49 PM

Exhibit A:

"hey, turn the middle east into a parking lot! kill all dem ayrabs!" ----> politically-correct speech, no major outcry by establishment lemmings or calls for censorship or suspension


Exhibit B:

"hey, let's use deadly force against people invading our country" ----> OMGZ! WHO'S EVER HEARD OF SUCH EVIL?! BLOODY MURDER! OMG BAN CENSOR!! AAAARGGHHHH!!




[Edited on August 30, 2007 at 4:25 PM. Reason : OMG! BAN CENSOR SUSPEND TERMINATE!!]

8/30/2007 4:08:42 PM

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""hey, turn the middle east into a parking lot! kill dem ayrabs!" ----> politically-correct speach, no major outcry by establishment lemmings or calls for censorship or suspension"

I'm pretty sure that most people who think that are as mocked around here as you are.

8/30/2007 4:10:46 PM

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""hey, turn the middle east into a parking lot! kill dem ayrabs!" ----> politically-correct speach, no major outcry by establishment lemmings or calls for censorship or suspension"

I guess you missed it when everybody jumped on Tom Tancredo for threatening to nuke Mecca a few weeks ago. Its okay. Not everyone can get a gold star on current events.

8/30/2007 4:13:35 PM

they're mocked

no major outcry or hysterical/desperate calls for censorship by politically correct lemmings who've had their mind blown by some extremely un-PC viewpoint

you see...it's PC and pushed by the establishment for us to kill dem Arabs...it's kosher

8/30/2007 4:14:44 PM

8/30/2007 4:16:40 PM

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"no major outcry or hysterical/desperate calls for censorship by politically correct lemmings who've had their mind blown by some extremely un-PC viewpoint"

Wrong again.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/08/05/tancredo-defends-threat-to-bomb-muslim-holy-sites/
http://1pissedarab.blogspot.com/2006/05/bomb-mecca-what-idiot.html
http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=2260
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/19/1353235

and many more.

[Edited on August 30, 2007 at 4:24 PM. Reason : .]

8/30/2007 4:17:15 PM

I'm talking about here on tww. I haven't seen a major cry for censorship whenever a user makes some comment like "turn the middle east into a parking lot!" or "kill em all and let God sort em out!"

8/30/2007 4:28:39 PM

Can you point out where a user has created a serious soap box thread along those lines?

By the way, I like how you didn't say anything about your claim being specific to TWW until I provided some proof of outcry regarding Tom Tancredo. Then you threw in an additional qualifier and acted like thats what you had meant all along.

[Edited on August 30, 2007 at 4:38 PM. Reason : .]

8/30/2007 4:33:39 PM

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"I like how you didn't say anything about your claim being specific to TWW "

when talking about cries for censorship, I thought it was fairly obvious and implicit that I was referring to this board

I'm pointing out the hypocrisy when it comes to calling for censorship of certain viewpoints around here

8/30/2007 4:45:11 PM

Sarcasm flying over your head is one of the reasons you're a terrible poster.

8/30/2007 4:45:19 PM

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"Sarcasm flying over your head is one of the reasons you're a terrible poster."

Dude, don't act like there aren't people who really want us to nuke the middle east and kill a bunch of Arabs. There are people who really believe and want to do that.

8/30/2007 4:47:03 PM

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"if i go to sports talk and make 10 threads about why the current BCS should be overthrown and replaced with a tournament, all my threads except the first would be locked. "

8/30/2007 4:47:37 PM

Can you point out where a user has created a serious soap box thread along those lines?

8/30/2007 4:48:24 PM

Completely ignoring the context of a response and going on a red herring rantstrike Bill O'Reilly style is another reason you are a terrible poster.

8/30/2007 4:50:29 PM

I haven't made 10 threads on this particular subject.

Your little example has absolutely no relevance to this thread.

8/30/2007 4:51:25 PM

I rest my case.

8/30/2007 4:54:28 PM

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"I think - and have repeatedly said publicly - this is what should happen to illegal aliens as they are caught crossing the border. I have also publicly advocated putting their severed heads on pike poles as a warning to others. The sooner we start doing so, the sooner the flow of illegals will stop."

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/halturner/NazisMeanBusiness/


I'll second that idea. I think the border crossings would go to zero in about a week.

8/30/2007 5:14:21 PM

Can you point out where a user has created a serious soap box thread along those lines?

8/30/2007 5:20:12 PM

Dude I hardly even pay attention to other users' threads now that I can't post in them.

And whether there's a thread specifically calling for the nuking of Iraq/Iran/etc is irrelevant. You know damn well many users have made posts expressing the view of "nuke _____", "kill em all and let God sort em out", "make the middle east a parking lot", "bomb them back to the stone age", etc.

8/30/2007 5:26:03 PM

So you couldn't find a thread? I'm assuming thats why you're trying to rationalize the absence of one.

8/30/2007 5:29:43 PM

I didn't look for one. For all I know, there's several SB threads calling for the nuking of Iraq/Iran/Syria/etc. Also keep in mind that many of the older threads (when more people still bought the "war on terror" propaganda & fraud) have been deleted.

8/30/2007 5:33:22 PM

OK, there are two kinds of people that say "Kill 'em all," etc.

There are the people who are joking, which represent the overwhelming majority of people who say it

And then there are the ones who seriously want us to do that thing. These people are really, really bad, but not quite as bad as you, because unless that person holds one of very few positions in the world, he cannot possibly act on his desire. You, on the other hand, are perfectly capable of getting a knife, some duct tape, and a couple of inbred butt-buddies, and then doing exactly what these guys did. Moreover, you are encouraging other people with that same capacity.

If you really, truly wanted to vaporize Mecca or whatever, then you could talk about it all day long on this site and have -0- chance of convincing anybody who could actually do what you propose.

This is why it is acceptable to give you the boot you've deserved for so long, and not acceptable to terminate even the most rabid neocons on this site.

[Edited on August 30, 2007 at 5:36 PM. Reason : ]

Oh good, Duke's online! Maybe now we can settle the question.

[Edited on August 30, 2007 at 5:38 PM. Reason : ]

8/30/2007 5:34:59 PM

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"If you really, truly wanted to vaporize Mecca or whatever, then you could talk about it all day long on this site and have -0- chance of convincing anybody who could actually do what you propose."

Well if you believe we as citizens actually have any influence over our own government, your advocacy could potentially influence our government to go ahead and carry out nuclear strikes against Iran or some other country. And that's not so far-fetched, considering that there have been reports that the U.S. Gov. is prepared to potentially use nuclear weapons against Iran.

8/30/2007 5:39:59 PM

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"Well if you believe we as citizens actually have any influence over our own government, your advocacy could potentially influence our government to go ahead and carry out nuclear strikes against Iran or some other country."

It could happen on down the line, but right now the effect is negligible enough to be limited to the fringe with the rest of the lunatics, namely you.

And of course we have plans for how to nuke Iran, we have plans for how to nuke everybody. That doesn't mean we have any actual intent to do it.

8/30/2007 5:42:05 PM

So you're certain that threads exist to prove your point you just refuse to look for them. You're a coward and a liar. Case closed.

So what's your point in making this thread? Do you hope to convince others that kidnapping and beheading immigrants is the right course to follow at this point?

8/30/2007 5:42:35 PM

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"I have no problem with the non-white peoples of the world having nations of their own for themselves. So why shouldn't whites also have nations of their own?"

I didn't read a lot of this thread yet, but what other nations can you think of that are non-white or exclude whites?

I know that white people live in my country. I know white people live in the Middle East.

White people are entitled to a nation of their own, sure, but we live in an era where seclusion breeds misery.

8/30/2007 6:21:46 PM

Why does everyone want Salisburyboy suspended? I don't get it. You can just as easily NOT click on his threads....but for some of us...its quite entertaining.

Hell, maybe we can write a Tom Clancy style novel using his threads for info...would make an instant best seller.

8/30/2007 6:33:37 PM