For those that didn't get a hold of today's sports section:

"We got beat in all phases of the game," O'Brien said. "We couldn't get off the field on defense, and we couldn't stay on the field on offense. We're not a very good football team. It's pretty obvious after today."

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"They could have done whatever they wanted to today," O'Brien said. "We didn't tackle them, and we didn't stop them. When you get overwhelmed the way we did, it comes down somewhat to personnel. You can coach guys all you want, but if they are in the right gap with the right technique, and they get run over and miss a tackle, it means they need to be a better football player."

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[Lineman Martel Brown basically said that they were able to make plays despite the Pack being in position.]

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[Blackman said it was hard to stomach, and that despite us being fired up, we need to control the line better. He also mentioned that Evans played well, and that he needs more time from the O-line.]

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"When you get beat, you get beat," O'Brien said. "And we got beat solidly."


Discuss.

[Article fragments taken from The Technician, 9/24/07]

9/24/2007 11:57:12 PM

go back to russia you communist

9/24/2007 11:57:50 PM

Tom's just telling us the truth, instead of putting sunglasses on it and parading around in a Corvette.

9/24/2007 11:58:21 PM

^^Thank you for that intelligent contribution.

[Edited on September 24, 2007 at 11:58 PM. Reason : .]

9/24/2007 11:58:22 PM

Brutal honesty.

I love it.

9/24/2007 11:59:30 PM

what is there to discuss

9/25/2007 12:00:07 AM

To be honest, the clemson offensive linemen made our defensive players look like children standing next to them.

9/25/2007 12:00:49 AM

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/683326.html

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"Can you talk about the value of having a multi-purpose guy like Darrell Blackman on your team? We always look for a big-play guy and he certainly is one. I would say right now after the first four games, he is the best football player on our team. We have to keep trying to get him the ball the best way we can because as he showed Saturday, he can score from anywhere on the field. I think he set a record with a 99-yard return, and outran their sprint champ so he's got tremendous speed, explosiveness, and he's a great weapon to have. Can you talk about Harrison Beck and his knee injury? They had told me that he would have been available. I didn't want to put him back in the game not knowing if he could be 100% or not, especially the speed the game was going. He practiced last night and seemed to be fine so I think he will be fine for Saturday. Is he still your starter? Yes. I haven't made a change. What stands out about Louisville? They have a tremendous quarterback in Brohm. He's thrown I think 67%. He's got a 5-to-1 TD/INT ratio, 15-3, which is really outstanding... he's thrown for a 1000 yards in I think the last two games. He's got two quality receivers. #85... Douglas, and then Urrutia is a giant. He's about 6'6 or something... similar to the two receivers Clemson had. The thing that is really amazing is they are 54% on third-down conversion which is basically unheard of in college football. I guess when you're that good on third down and a quarterback the way he is... this is a treat for us. We get to play the two best quarterbacks in the country within the same month. They've had new kids in the secondary. They lost three starters from last year and one of the kids they were counting on coming back had a knee in preseason. They've done some juggling around back there the last couple of weeks, and Syracuse fooled them a couple of times. I'm sure they will solve those problems... you just can't give up the deep passes they have been giving up. How frustrated have you been with the inability to establish the run? Anytime you lose it's frustrating. The only thing you can do, and what we've done for years, is you go back to the practice field and keep doing the fundamentals over-and-over again until we get them right. We make sure we can execute them, execute them with speed, and get our techniques right. If we do that, we can be a whole lot better up front running the football. Is this more of a rebuilding job than you expected? I don't know what I expected. Obviously when you're 1-3 you've got some things you have to take and do a lot better. We'll continue to do it. We're a third of the way through the year and we've got two/thirds left to go... no telling, maybe the light will turn on and we can win the rest of our games. How likely is it the light will turn on? Oh, I'm a positive guy. I'm going to believe in these guys. I don't know... as I said, a lot of this stuff takes time. We don't have a lot of time. We've got three days to get ready, and we've got to play again. I think in a perfect world... I was asked about the schedule. You probably would have liked to have had an offweek after your second or third game so you could evaluate where you are and maybe tinker with a few things. We haven't had that luxury. It doesn't come until the middle of the year. We'll continue to do the best we can and get better each-and-every week. You don't seem to be sugarcoating anything... you're saying it the way it is. Are the players responding to that? That's the way I am all the time. I haven't changed. We're going to find out tomorrow and the next day and the next day. Overconfidence still a problem? [Laughing]No, I don't think so. How about discipline? I think we've been alright. What's your definition of discipline. Are we executing what we're suppose to do and doing it with the mental discipline we have to? Probably not. Are we better off-the-field going to class and doing the things we're suppose to be doing? Yes, absolutely. It all comes in small steps. That's another one of those things that time will heal, but you know the time is now. The sooner that they buy in and get on board, the easier it will be. Penalties? I don't think the penalties... other than the 10-penalty day against Wofford. Obviously the jumping offsides at the end of the first half, when you make a penalty in a crucial spot it stands out. We've got 26 penalties through four games, and 10 were in one game. That's too many obviously, but I think we're okay. How do you balance being honest and straight forward about how good you are now and keeping them up?[b] There's positive reinforcement. As much as you want to kick them in the butt, you have to hug and kiss them too when they do it right. They've got to understand it's not all bad. You're never as bad as you think you are, and you're never as good as you think you are. We do some nice games. There are some kids on this football team... Darrell Blackman you talked about, and I saw DaJuan Morgan out front. He's playing spectacular. He's like Darrell as the offense is what he's been to the defense. There are guys who have understood what we're trying to accomplish and they have stepped their game up and played better. You can't do it with two, you can't do it with five, you need 45 or 50 guys playing that way. [b]Is DeMario back to 100%? Nobody is 100% after the fourth week of the year... the only thing I will say is this will be the first time that he will practice all week and play in the game on Saturday. If he makes it through this week and makes it to Saturday. That is a positive. As I said before, the only luck he has had is bad luck. Hopefully it has turned for him. How has your offensive line play been? I'd say it's been average at best. We haven't controlled the line of scrimmage against any good defensive football team yet so you can't consider yourself being a good offensive line. Do you have any young offensive linemen you may want to break in as you go along or is pretty much the guys you have now? The guys we have are the guys we're playing. We're going to try and redshirt some of those freshmen... it's all we have. "

[Edited on September 25, 2007 at 12:07 AM. Reason : ]

9/25/2007 12:04:20 AM

wait did you just take direct quotes from o'brien and try to act like it was some tehnician thing?


everybody saw these quotes on sunday when they were in the regular paper and on the internet

9/25/2007 12:06:58 AM

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[Edited on September 25, 2007 at 12:08 AM. Reason : .]

9/25/2007 12:07:50 AM

I love it. Pure honesty.

We no longer have a joke at head coach. This man knows what he is doing. Give him time.

9/25/2007 12:10:01 AM

way to blame it on the players. these are acc caliber athletes. even d2 teams look better than us. stay class obrien

9/25/2007 12:12:40 AM

shutup Earl and take those rosy red blinders off that chuckles made you wear.

9/25/2007 12:14:10 AM

shutup Earl

9/25/2007 12:15:05 AM

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"wait did you just take direct quotes from o'brien and try to act like it was some tehnician thing?"

It's what I was typing it from. Not my fault if the Tech gets their stuff from a paper I don't read.

9/25/2007 12:17:10 AM

http://www.technicianonline.com/

it's not hard to go there though.

9/25/2007 12:20:57 AM

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"everybody saw these quotes on sunday when they were in the regular paper and on the internet"

9/25/2007 12:21:51 AM

That would be a pretty cool nickname. Tom "The Technician" O'Brien.

9/25/2007 12:23:59 AM

Stay classy Tom. This shit got you in trouble at BCU and it's already rearing its head here.

9/25/2007 8:51:47 AM

^if by in trouble you mean 8 - 9 wins a season I say he should keep doing it

9/25/2007 8:59:04 AM

I love it that we finally have a coach that tells us how it is. Until...

TOB: It comes down somewhat to personnel

Then it' s



I hope he comes out next press conference with some red shoes on and sugar coats everything.

TOB: Our players are great. They missed tackles because our coaching staff told them to.

[Edited on September 25, 2007 at 9:04 AM. Reason : -]

9/25/2007 9:04:32 AM

"These players played their fanny's off."

9/25/2007 9:11:59 AM

There were 57,000+ people at the game thinking the same thing and countless at home. I'm just happy that the one person who can do something about it is honest enough to admit it.

O'Brien's first few years at BC were this way until he ran out the hooligans and had only the ones who bought into his philosophy. Until we get players who take responsibility for their actions (positive AND negative), and not blame some "non qualifying" loophole that had no effect on the game, expect to see and hear the same things from O'Brien.

9/25/2007 9:14:47 AM

One of the clemson players said they over prepared for this game.

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"Clemson offensive tackle Christian Capote said the Tigers were overprepared"

gotta be one of the worst things an opponent can say about you after a game.

9/25/2007 9:24:59 AM

Tom's just telling us the truth, instead of putting stupid looking giganto coco chanel red sunglasses on it and parading around in a Corvette.


there, fixed it for ya

9/25/2007 10:31:42 AM

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"Tom's just telling us the truth, instead of putting sunglasses on it and parading around in a Corvette."

FTW

i'd give Tom a couple seasons to get his program established before bitching about him.

9/25/2007 10:41:08 AM

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"way to blame it on the players. these are acc caliber athletes. even d2 teams look better than us. stay class obrien"

Our offensive line is barely D2 caliber. Being ACC caliber doesn't mean shit anyway since the ACC is a joke of a conference.

9/25/2007 11:03:02 AM

if I can remember correctly our O-line has blown ass even since the Philip Rivers Days. What is killing us this year is that our defense is sucking too which in the past has saved our asses by keeping the other teams scoring in check since we always had trouble producing offense in the davis/stone era

9/25/2007 11:04:33 AM

this team will see its second leg of a double or triple bottom at the Louisville game.

come November 10, we will be playing much better than we are now.

9/25/2007 11:06:38 AM

Philip Rivers had an outstanding O-line. Chris Colmer, Sean Locklear, Scott Kooistra, and whoever our center was (the starter and his backup after that knee injury) flat out dominated the line of scrimmage for both Running and Passing. there's a reason they went on to play pro ball.

9/25/2007 11:56:59 AM

^Shane Riggs would have been a guard and Jed Paulsen was the center. Paulsen never got the credit he deserved. He was solid.

9/25/2007 12:00:33 PM

I don't understand why people expect us to have a good year. We won 3 games last year, two on last minute touchdowns, the only other win was against App without their current beast of a QB. We also lost Tank Tyler, some seniors to the NFL/Bojangles and we lost Anthony Hill and Toney Baker to injuries. We have little to no freshman presence on the team to fill those holes.

So, explain to me again how we have ACC caliber athletes? We were 2 dropped passes away from a 1-10 season with the one win being against a DI-AA opponent. Atleast Tom O'Brien realizes that.

[Edited on September 25, 2007 at 12:13 PM. Reason : I'm a retard]

9/25/2007 12:12:44 PM

How is the discipline-oriented former-Marine Tom O'Brien supposed to instill discipline in undisciplined players recruited by Chuck "I Recruit Undisciplined Players" Amato?

9/25/2007 12:18:09 PM

^^ Nice first post

[Edited on September 25, 2007 at 12:20 PM. Reason : Damnit Twista ]

9/25/2007 12:20:03 PM

I do what I can, I like to be honest in my edits too.

9/25/2007 12:20:51 PM

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"There are guys who have understood what we're trying to accomplish and they have stepped their game up and played better."

I seriously love O'Brien. He doesn't bullshit you or spin what he is trying to say.

He has consistently talked about the players "buying into the system" and working hard and how there are some on the team that don't seem to want to buy in. We aren't a good football team, but we ARE trying and you can't fault the players for that.

9/25/2007 12:23:35 PM

I calm down every time I hear him talk because he knows exactly what the problems are and exactly what he needs to do to fix it. Most of the answers involve time sadly.

9/25/2007 1:34:20 PM

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"Tom's just telling us the truth, instead of putting sunglasses on it and parading around in a Corvette."

9/25/2007 1:46:10 PM

listening to chuck talk about our football team was like listening to donald rumsfeld talk about the operations in Iraq



if we're fucked for a while, atleast be straight up about it

cheers to TOB

9/25/2007 1:54:23 PM

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"Paulsen never got the credit he deserved. He was solid. "

Paulsen was expected to go higher in the draft than Rivers at the beginning of their senior season, but Paulsen messed up his knee so bad that everyone was afraid to risk a draft pick on him.

Most people never give offensive linemen the credit they deserve. The average fan doesn't even notice the job they do unless they get called for a false start or holding.

9/25/2007 2:24:52 PM

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"Tom's just telling us the truth, instead of putting sunglasses on it and parading around in a Corvette."

9/25/2007 2:27:13 PM

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"some seniors to the NFL/Bojangles"

LMAO

NAHH Jay Davis would be pissed at that comment. He was proud of his job as Bouncer for the Flying Saucer the fall after his last season as NCSU QB

9/25/2007 3:58:31 PM

What critics?

9/25/2007 4:43:14 PM

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"way to blame it on the players. these are acc caliber athletes. even d2 teams look better than us. stay class obrien"

I think one of the main differences between college football and the NFL is that in college an unfair amount of pressure and criticism is placed on the coach. In both college and pro, both coaches and players are criticized, but in college I think it's fair to say a disproportionate amount goes into the coaches. I think the main reason for this is that by nature, people feel uncomfortable harshly criticizing college students because they view them as "kids", even though they are usually 20-22 years old. It is very easy to criticize Pro players who are making millions a year, buying huge houses and cars and making commercials. Likewise, in college, it is the coaches who are making the big money and buying the nice houses, while the players are generally going to school for free, but 90% of them will never make a real dollar off of football.

anyway, my point is that because of human nature and the reasons I stated, it makes people feel bad when you criticize college players. I'm not sure that a coach should be saying that about his own team to the public, but like it or not, there is a lot of truth in that. If the players suck, there's not a whole hell of a lot the coach can do about it. He can work on the basics, improve the fundamentals and their discipline, but really - no amount of coaching can turn crappy into Heisman candidates

9/25/2007 5:00:09 PM

ice....







ice

9/25/2007 5:06:05 PM

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"people feel uncomfortable harshly criticizing college students because they view them as "kids", even though they are usually 20-22 years old."

YOU WANT TO CRITICIZE SOMEONE, YOU COME AFTER ME! I'M A MAN! I'M 40!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoMmbUmKN0E

Someone should embed this. Maybe just the part where he says that line. It's hilarious.

9/25/2007 5:37:27 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcjM9RRlQ_I

PEOPLE DON'T BOO NOBODIES

9/25/2007 5:40:57 PM

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"TOB is an evil genius Guy gets humiliated by us last season. He's bitter and seeks revenge by becoming our new coach and systematically crippling the program from the inside: -Last week we weren't prepared to play -Then during the week he says the team isn't as good as they think they are and that they need a reality check -No QB -No running game -No secondary -5 INTs today -Key players are getting injured each quarter And he does all while getting paid twice as much as he did at BC. The guy should know how to beat the team he used to coach (at least enough to make it close). We've humiliated ourselves two weeks in a row. TOB knows exactly what he's doing. "

9/25/2007 8:26:00 PM

^ I would hardly say that getting beat 17-15 on a last minute hailmary is getting humiliated...

9/25/2007 9:10:12 PM

getting beat by us was the humiliating part

getting beat on a lucky Daniel Evans floater to the endzone was the humiliating part

the only reason we won that game was because of the stupid clock rules that the NCAA implemented last season

9/25/2007 9:31:48 PM