HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Sounds like shit is going down in Myanmar. http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/09/27/myanmar.protests/index.html#cnnSTCText
We need to suit up and prepare for war. We know how much Bush likes democracy and freedom so surely we will want to invade to help the people in Myanmar like how invaded Iraq to help free the Iraqis from tyranny. 9/28/2007 1:03:20 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
you say that jokingly, but i'm with you. this is one time where regime change is warranted. 9/28/2007 1:07:48 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 9/28/2007 1:19:20 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
An invasion probably isn't necessary. Even the mongoloid circle-jerkers at the CIA could handle that coup under current conditions. Throw around a little money in the right places and at the very least we could replace the bloodthirsty junta with at least a regular dictator who won't pull shit like:
Quote : | "The 1988 uprising were triggered by economic hardship. In 1987, a former regime chief demonetized Burma's currency, wiping out the savings of millions, and introduced new bank notes that were divisible by the number nine simply because he considered the digit auspicious." |
http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?id=18093
Sadly, we won't do it.
[Edited on September 28, 2007 at 1:26 PM. Reason : ]9/28/2007 1:25:04 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
china is taking the darfur approach to this place 9/28/2007 1:28:25 PM |
Dropout66 All American 2307 Posts user info edit post |
too bad they have nothing of value to the average US citizen
if they cant produce unleaded gas, at least make unleaded toys, then we'd care 9/28/2007 1:34:31 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
cheers to that 9/28/2007 2:02:32 PM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
Internet access cut off in Myanmar... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298400,00.html
I know a lot of tdubbers who would be suited up and ready for anarchy if that happened here. 9/28/2007 2:40:35 PM |
Dropout66 All American 2307 Posts user info edit post |
^ i would hope all americans would be suited up if that happened here ^
i don't kid myself about the 2nd amendment, but it could certainly help the free-burma movement right about now 9/28/2007 6:19:48 PM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
Here is a golden opportunity to stay out of the fray.
If some private citizens want to go over there and fight on the side of freedom, more power to them.
But the US gov't should keep its hands off...and that means you Mr. CIA. 9/29/2007 12:13:02 AM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
See, this is my problem with libertarianism
It requires us to say, "Oh, well, whatever" when horrible abuses of the basic human condition are being perpetrated by even the weakest of governments, which we could easily topple
Fuck that, I'd rather have oppressive speed limits and teen drinking laws than permit the god damned burmese junta to keep running things 9/29/2007 2:15:51 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Why is it that only the CIA is capable of putting money to the right people to help a coup? We are Americans, we are filthy rich compared to these countries. Grumpy, go start your own charity, buy some guns, raise some cash, and overthrow the bad people. 9/29/2007 9:22:05 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
fox news has an AP report up about mutinies in several army units. conflicting reports about whether these units simply refused to leave their barracks or are actively defending the protesters from other army units. other reports of fierce gunfire give credence to the latter though, since i doubt the monks are heavily armed. 9/29/2007 9:46:26 AM |
mcfluffle All American 11291 Posts user info edit post |
so we totally can't let someone grow some balls and do something about it for themselves. 9/29/2007 10:11:47 AM |
Dropout66 All American 2307 Posts user info edit post |
^you mean like us a couple hundred years ago when even armies only had basic weapons available?
I'm sure its even easier nowadays to match firepower - homemade vs. professional military
oh wait, even when it was only muskets and cannons we needed help... disregard 9/29/2007 11:10:37 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
No countries in modern times through largely domestic efforts have gained independence or overthrown a government 9/29/2007 11:21:45 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
^ Wait, I thought quite a few have. India didn't gain independence through non-domestic efforts, or maybe you mean something different by that? 9/29/2007 11:17:20 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i agree with ^^ more than i agree with ^ just cause the times have changed and its not the same situation 9/29/2007 11:20:47 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
MISSION OF BURMA! 9/29/2007 11:30:22 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Plus they are Buddhists, so we must go there and convert them into God-fearing Christians to save their souls from hell!!1 9/30/2007 1:05:45 AM |
Smoker4 All American 5364 Posts user info edit post |
I am annoyed with two aspects of this wrt the US:
1) the use of the term "Myanamar" in any context that isn't pure parody. It's like calling China "Mao-land." 2) the recent "freezing of assets" we undertook in response. Why weren't the generals' assets frozen already? What, they weren't just as despotic three weeks ago? 9/30/2007 1:42:31 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
You can't just run around freezing the assets of despots or in the future despots will find somewhere else to stash all the money they are stealing. I like today's system; we get to freeze despotic assets when they fuck up, and these Burmese types have really fucked up.
That said, I would prefer if they never froze anyones assets barring the conviction for a U.S. or international crime. 9/30/2007 9:19:48 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No countries in modern times through largely domestic efforts have gained independence or overthrown a government" |
you are stupid and do not know anything about history
Quote : | "I'm sure its even easier nowadays to match firepower - homemade vs. professional military " |
hence why terrorist organizations have evolved as a means to counter political discontent.
[Edited on September 30, 2007 at 12:18 PM. Reason : l]9/30/2007 11:54:10 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No countries in modern times through largely domestic efforts have gained independence or overthrown a government" |
Are you retarded? Biggest example..South Africa in 1994.9/30/2007 12:46:12 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
cuba?
is that the right answer? 9/30/2007 1:45:17 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No countries in modern times through largely domestic efforts have gained independence or overthrown a government" |
yeah, this is retarded, there are lots of counter-examples
they just don't necessarily become a democracy9/30/2007 5:24:21 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "An invasion probably isn't necessary. Even the mongoloid circle-jerkers at the CIA could handle that coup under current conditions. Throw around a little money in the right places and at the very least we could replace the bloodthirsty junta with at least a regular dictator who won't pull shit like:" |
Every time you get the CIA involved, the new leadership is worse then the old. The CIA and the US government does not put righteous people in power in foreign countries. They put the guy that will bend over and happily take the American cock up his ass regardless if its 'good for his people' or not.
[Edited on September 30, 2007 at 7:54 PM. Reason : fda]9/30/2007 7:52:42 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
here we go again 9/30/2007 8:33:36 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They put the guy that will bend over and happily take the American cock up his ass regardless if its 'good for his people' or not. " |
BULLSHIT we only put in power officials that will spread teh torch of freedom and democracy. Our officials are deeply concerned with the well being of all of humanity.9/30/2007 8:49:42 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "See, this is my problem with libertarianism
It requires us to say, "Oh, well, whatever" when horrible abuses of the basic human condition are being perpetrated by even the weakest of governments, which we could easily topple" | Because the Chinese are going to happily sit by while we put troops in SE Asia.
I mean, they could go . . . oh wait, oppressing religion, thats their shtick.
If anything, at least the well bungled operation in Iraq had the theoretical benefit of increased control over world oil.9/30/2007 10:11:43 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "maybe you mean something different by that" |
Indeed I did. I was trying to fish out idiots like:
Quote : | "i agree with ^^ more than i agree with ^ just cause the times have changed and its not the same situation" |
but we already knew that drunknloaded was dumb
[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 12:06 AM. Reason : ']10/1/2007 12:06:12 AM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "BULLSHIT we only put in power officials that will spread teh torch of freedom and democracy. Our officials are deeply concerned with the well being of all of humanity." |
haha touché
Quote : | "here we go again" |
please tell me, is it over the rainbow or left at the 3rd star to get to this world you live in?
[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 3:10 PM. Reason : fda]10/1/2007 3:08:32 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
^ I want to live there 10/1/2007 3:26:34 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^me too, sounds pretty awesome. 10/1/2007 4:02:56 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=484903 10/1/2007 4:25:40 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
haha, his last name is 'shrimp'10/1/2007 4:29:00 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
10/1/2007 4:55:15 PM |