mootduff All American 1462 Posts user info edit post |
Since we're only ~3-4 months away, I figured it was time to start the season 5 thread with
a huge article due out in the Oct. 22 New Yorker...
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/10/22/071022fa_fact_talbot
The article is very long, but very good. Some of the material is old, but overall it's very comprehensive.
Also, HBO On Demand is currently running Seasons 1-4 back to back leading up to the January season 5 start. I think Season 1 is available till Oct 29th. 10/16/2007 11:38:43 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
you lie 10/16/2007 11:40:27 AM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
i have only seen the first season, and part of the second, but it's already one of the best shows i've ever seen. i need to catch up before january
V it's on time warner on demand, too
[Edited on October 16, 2007 at 11:42 AM. Reason : .] 10/16/2007 11:40:43 AM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
they're definitely running it on comcast on demand, not sure about time warner on demand 10/16/2007 11:41:37 AM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
TWC HBOOD has it up through about half of the second season right now, maybe more. 10/16/2007 12:31:00 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
i just saw them shooting on my way home from school last month. 10/16/2007 12:44:08 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
my brother saw carver walking down near baltimore st, sort of close to city hall
[Edited on October 16, 2007 at 1:00 PM. Reason : .] 10/16/2007 12:59:51 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
haha i just rewatched the chicken nugget convo with wallace, poot, d (and bodie? i forget)
high comedy 10/18/2007 10:08:44 AM |
dacates All American 4305 Posts user info edit post |
episode 7 of season 1 right now 10/18/2007 5:04:43 PM |
Budiss All American 2348 Posts user info edit post |
what a great show 10/18/2007 5:39:42 PM |
pmcassel All American 1553 Posts user info edit post |
my favorite show of all time re-watched season 1 on in demand in about 5 days
too bad season 5 is the last season 10/18/2007 8:14:43 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
finished re-watching season 1 just in time
on to nick and frank and white mike!
[Edited on October 30, 2007 at 8:20 AM. Reason : and ziggy] 10/30/2007 8:20:01 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
season 2 made me want to drop my life and become a longshoreman 10/30/2007 8:31:28 AM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
season 2 was amazing. can't wait for season 3 to come on demand
it sucks that season 5 is only 10 episodes 10/30/2007 9:41:38 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
Restricted and I watched all of the first three seasons in the month of January this year. Yeah we had no life outside of the Wire during that stretch.
We got so into it that we ordered a bootleg dvd set of season 4 on ebay. They were actually very good quality. I can't wait for season 5.
To this day i still want Greggs to get a taste of the McNutty 10/30/2007 10:18:29 AM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
haha i totally forgot what a dick valcheck was 10/31/2007 11:37:23 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "re-watched season 1 on in demand in about 5 days" |
haha i rewatched season one on DVD in like 2 days one time
WHITEY SALE10/31/2007 1:11:46 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
WMD got some WMDs here. yellow tops 10/31/2007 1:23:27 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
got that rockafella 10/31/2007 1:30:04 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
got that pandemic 11/1/2007 1:49:30 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
when does this start?
jan? 11/1/2007 7:18:57 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
season 5 - january supposedly 11/1/2007 7:35:18 PM |
JRattB All American 2008 Posts user info edit post |
Any chance this season will be in HD? 11/2/2007 12:01:50 AM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
fuzzy dunlop, checking in 11/5/2007 8:55:42 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^ 11/5/2007 8:57:10 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
ahhhhaha fuzzy dunlop, i forgot about him 11/5/2007 9:41:37 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
saw this on tv-guide online. It was in a segment talking about the writing strike and the effect it will have on shows and premieres.
"The Wire" Completed and will air as scheduled.
so its coming! 11/8/2007 8:58:22 AM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
yeah thank goodness, if you read the article i posted, they wrapped up just in time it sounds like... 11/8/2007 9:33:43 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8ebahViGYE
can't wait 11/28/2007 10:36:49 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
also, best buy has each of the first 3 seasons for $21.99 each (about 25 w/ shipping and tax)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat136300050007&type=category&initialize=false&initialize=true&_requestid=223255
[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 10:42 PM. Reason : link] 11/28/2007 10:42:17 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe this has been posted before, but apparently David Simon made a few prequel shorts that are now on youtube, there is one about young prop joe, one about young omar and the last one is when Bunk and McNulty first met. Here's the link to the youtube profile with them (as well as season 5 previews and some good older clips): http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Lovejoy662 12/5/2007 3:53:27 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
nice find...will have to watch when i get home and have access to youtube
i just re-finished out season 3 last night, except comcast doesnt have the final ep posted up...gotta call them and tell them whats up 12/5/2007 4:09:38 PM |
mdalston All American 1028 Posts user info edit post |
got dem WMDs.
The Bunk/McNulty prequel rules
[Edited on December 5, 2007 at 6:07 PM. Reason : oops] 12/5/2007 6:06:30 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
in the very first episode in the courtroom scene, at one point one of the thugs looks just like juice hodge!
everybody cares, right?!?! 12/5/2007 10:07:14 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "In October, The New Yorker pointed out that The Wire resonates deeply with two primary audiences: critics and "people who identify with the inner-city characters." Despite being somewhat intuitive--Lord knows it took me about five years to find people who were as into it as I was since I don't run with critics or the impoverished--it was an observation that gave me pause and made me chuckle because it's largely true. And you need not work hard to flesh out the racial dimension that accompanies what Margaret Talbot wrote. Momentarily dispensing with the caveats of political correctness, let's agree that The Wire is, in fact, most popular with white people who spend a lot of time worrying about the social issues of others and the black people who know those problems firsthand.
I suppose that color isn't even such a big deal here. For my purposes, the racial component is really only important because it sharpens the contrast. Two disparate groups feel so similarly and so strongly about the same thing. That's not common. And more intriguing, I'd argue that both halves of this bifurcated fan base find a common appeal in the show.
More than anything else, The Wire achieves an unparalleled authenticity thanks to its honest portrayal of city life. Beyond the frank treatment of personal relationships, race relations, and bureaucracy, The Wire enthralls its audience with those prosaic conversations that answer questions like, "Just what would a drug dealer talk about all day while standing on a street corner?" That it has won acceptance among people who likely recognize the systemic failures and pathologies of poverty that The Wire meticulously curates confers upon the show an imprimatur of truth. And it is this mark which makes The Wire all the more attractive to those who profess to care about its issues but have little intimate understanding of their quotidian rhythms.
Now compare that to standard fare. Narratives about drug dealing, violence, political wrangling, and a roster of additional "urban themes" are not unique in popular culture. However, these subjects can carry so much emotional heft and connect to such a bleak reality that they're often distorted through simplistic, misguided celebration or diminished through the dishonest conventions of romanticism. The theoretical glory enjoyed by "heroes" like 50 Cent and Frank Lucas, or Young Jeezy and Nino Brown, is an artifice that ultimately rings hollow. But as we know, The Wire only traffics in the real, and this is why the show has been such a towering success.
Ghostface Killah is a lot like The Wire. The ease with which he brings to life crime, drugs, poverty, and sexuality through their respective banalities simultaneously divorces his subjects from the misleading contexts in which they're commonly presented while also making them more accessible to everyday people. That's a paradox; we don't commonly enjoy hearing about how hard it is to wash someone's head off of a t-shirt. But that's Starks. And not coincidentally, he, too, enjoys a nearly unrivaled critical esteem and a cult following among those who, for whatever reasons, hear in his music something that they recognize. To be fair, rap fans far outnumber Wire fans, so we probably can't be as simplistic in our assessment because hip-hop fans occupying so many distinct nodes across a vast landscape. (And, SB ain't trying to be on some David Brooks oversimplification shit.) But in broad terms, you could likely etch out a similarly odd dichotomy of worship. (You could also contend that in both The Wire and a Ghostface album, fans find uncommon subjects--how many people are really selling drugs or rolling in Bentleys with the new Rasheeds?---which they can fetishize. Lots of people entertain fantasies of being Stringer Bell.)
Of course, Starks is far more playful and outlandish, far less serious and pointed than The Wire, but Big Doe Rehab is nonetheless a wonderful reminder that no rapper is quite like Ghost because no rapper approaches his subjects and creates images in quite the same way. And, no rapper makes music that is nearly as much fun. BDR is, above all else, a sixteen-track affirmation that rap music can still be much more than empty thuggery and the soft bigotry of supposed southern excellence.
If Fishscale was a sometimes wandering showcase for Ghost's many talents (and don't get it twisted--there is no revisionist history here: that album still knocks), BDR is a tight, cinematic return to a classic Wu-Tang modality, albeit with a more contemporary production style. This is the sort of topically cohesive, audacious, crime-obsessed album that scored your most cherished mid-90's Wu-Tang dreams. And though lauding a rapper's storytelling abilities is a common hip-hop compliment, that practice becomes laughable as Ghost drops vivid, detail-rich verses throughout. He just sons other MCs. Call me a "stan" if you will, but I defy anyone to explain how other rappers making records today can be considered on par or better (fall back, 21st Century Nas). I read somewhere that this album reminded the author of Only Built 4 Cuban Linx. I wouldn't go that far--you're talking about one of the five greatest rap albums ever made, after all--but it does share the same sort of defiant, assured mood.
And that comes through almost palpably. One distinction that sets apart BDR from its recent Ghostface predecessors is the rapping. Last year's Ghostface offerings delivered tight verses and comfortable flows, but there was something casual and rehearsed about all of it. The choreographed procession of "name" producers likely contributed. It was enjoyable music that succeeded in spite of self-consciousness, and though the topics were at times bizarre and even hallucinatory, those were ideas that seemed calculated. The planning could be heard in Ghost's rapping, which had an air of maturity and restraint that is not what we commonly associate with such an energetic rapper who is charmingly perceptive as he sometimes veers off in his own direction. But BDR is different. It is marked by a notably absent self-awareness that allows the record to seem enjoyably out of control at times. Even the more subdued sounds and slower tempos do not dampen Ghost's uninhibited energy. "Yolanda's House" is the song of the year precisely because even while taking a stroll, it retains the volatility that has always made the Wu-Tang special. That and everything else that's dope about the track.
Initially, I didn't think I liked BDR as much as I had hoped to. The first few songs I'd heard--"We Celebrate" and "Barrel Brothers"--were disjointed. Plus, the production left me wanting more. But BDR will grow on you. First, it is sequenced very well. "Barrell Brothers," far from being an unremarkable song, sets an excellent tone for what follows, and the mixed tempos and styles flow fairly seamlessly. Second, Method Man is reborn on this album. Whereas he rhymed well on 8 Diagrams but still somehow seemed to be a shell of what he once was, his work on Rehab is a welcomed reminder that he was once a preeminent rapper. Third, this really is a fine example of Ghostface being himself. It's infectious. And fourth, the enduring sounds of BDR are Ghost's stories. Feet free of callouses, bodies dropped by a Tommy-wielding mami--there is a lot of detailed rhyming here, the sort that draws you in and makes you love rap music. The sort that rings honest and true, even when you don't know what else you'd be looking for." |
http://straightbangin.blogspot.com/2007/12/music-for-monday-its-all-in-details.html[/quote][quote]
[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 10:34 AM. Reason : .]12/11/2007 10:34:19 AM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
also,
if you guys aren't or havent been reading Heaven and Here
it's back up and running to get ready for season 5
http://heavenandhere.wordpress.com/ 12/11/2007 10:35:18 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
**minor spoiler** maybe, i dont personally consider it one.
Quote : | "Question: Any scoop on the upcoming season of The Wire (aka the best show on TV)? — Kevin Ausiello: The first seven episodes from the final season (debuting Jan. 6) just landed on my lap, and here's what I can tell you: McNulty (Dominic West) is back on the job, married to Oscar fave Amy Ryan, and a complete and utter basket case. He's drinking and womanizing harder than ever and rarely answers calls from home. Meanwhile, the city has no money to pay for investigations or even overtime, and the way the frustrated McNulty deals with the situation will Blow. Your. Mind. " |
12/12/2007 1:26:55 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
i just watched 300 last night and i gotta say, it was tough to divorce Dominic West's McNulty out of the film and the character he was playing 12/12/2007 1:31:16 PM |
Absolution Suspended 500 Posts user info edit post |
Half the season has leaked 12/12/2007 1:53:30 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
where at, newsgroups? 12/12/2007 2:50:47 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
i dont watch leaks.
i like looking forward to stuff. 12/12/2007 3:51:30 PM |
Budiss All American 2348 Posts user info edit post |
This last season is gonna be great
12/12/2007 9:39:24 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
NEED WIRE NOW 12/13/2007 7:50:47 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
i just realized, while rewatching season 1, that all 3 major female characters(gregs, ronnie and the stripper) free dem tits
interesting 12/13/2007 8:28:21 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
12/13/2007 11:06:38 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
"Dad got hosed"
"clay davis got hosed"
Quote : | "Origins Creator David Simon has said that Clay Davis is based on three different politicians in the Baltimore State Senate, and that his trademark "partner" is based on one of them, saying that everybody in Baltimore knows who this is.[citation needed]
Critical response Slate magazine singled out Clay Davis as a reason they were looking forward to the return of the show for its fifth season. They highlighted the character as being unusual in that he shows no moral complexity and is simply corrupt. They also applauded Washington's delivery of the character's trademark "Sheeeeee-it".[3] " |
[Edited on December 13, 2007 at 11:15 AM. Reason : add]12/13/2007 11:14:17 AM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
Dad got hosed 12/13/2007 11:15:45 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
hahahah they also applauded the delivery of his trademark "Sheeeeee-it" 12/13/2007 11:17:12 AM |
Budiss All American 2348 Posts user info edit post |
You know whats hilarious is Rawls being spotted in the gay bar. You can see him there for just a second but its def him smiling it up with a sweater on. 12/13/2007 7:58:32 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
that sheeeee-it is the actor's trademark
watch 25th Hour, a Spike Lee joint 12/13/2007 8:11:33 PM |