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"Red/White Game Saturday, October 27th *******************12:30pm (New Time)************** RBC Center Come out and catch the 2007-08 Men's Basketball Team before tailgating for the football game!! Format: Game situation scrimmage with the Men's Basketball Team. The event will last approx. 1 hour 15 minutes. Special Presentation: NC State will be honoring the jersey of Wolfpack great, Todd Fuller Seating: General Admission Seating. Parking and RBC Center gates will open at 11:30am Admission: Free"

The other thread was some guy trying to sell who knows what and had no information so I'm making this one(plus he left out the *'s).

With as much preseason hype we are getting and how all of you people are soooo excited about basketball season, the RBC center better be PACKed to show our support for the team.

10/25/2007 4:19:52 PM

are there parking Nazis for this event?

10/25/2007 4:23:47 PM

Lots are still supposed to open only 5hrs before kickoff. So ya got 1hr to get parked and make it to the RBC center.

[Edited on October 25, 2007 at 4:26 PM. Reason : ]

10/25/2007 4:26:19 PM

PACK THE HOUSE PEOPLE

10/25/2007 6:18:45 PM

PACK THE HOUSE PEOPLE

10/25/2007 6:19:56 PM

Todd Fuller led the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) in scoring during his senior year with 20.9 ppg and 9.9 rpg. He was an Academic All-American, and declined to accept a Rhodes Scholarship to the University of Oxford in order to play professional basketball. He was also inducted in to Phi Beta Kappa and graduated Summa Cum Laude in 1996 with a Bachelor of Science in Applied Mathematics from NC State.

10/25/2007 6:34:15 PM

damn.......we wore some wicked shitty uniforms in the late 80's/early 90's

10/25/2007 6:46:23 PM

Yeah, but a lot of other teams did so as well. Look at Kentucky's uniforms from back in the 90s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtL2uGvUXAw

10/25/2007 7:01:16 PM

Coming in from out of town for this. You guys better bring the crowd and noise.

10/25/2007 7:03:13 PM

I said in the other thread that Fuller was arguably a better college player than Hodge.

Fuller was a better scorer than Duncan was in college.

He was too slow to make it the NBA but he did play for a few years.

10/25/2007 7:08:23 PM

ugly as all hell, but at least they said "STATE" on the front.

10/25/2007 7:11:35 PM

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"I said in the other thread that Fuller was arguably a better college player than Hodge."

I don't know about that one. Perhaps for one year, but not career as a whole. Hodge is at least one of the top 10, perhaps even top 5 in terms of State's greatest players. Now by that I mean what they contributed to the program and how well they played in their careers. Hodge could carry our team and was a player from day one. You can just look at all of the awards he received and see how good of a player he was for us. He was the heart and soul of our program for four years, and the best example of this is the fact that his arrival coincided with us getting back to the tournament and that amazing game against UConn to get us back into the Sweet 16 for the first time in like 15 years. Hodge is only the third player in NC State history to get to the 2,000 point mark, and this all while in Herb's slow down offensive system that didn't lend itself to many high scoring games. Also Hodge is only the third player in Atlantic Coast Conference history to top 2,000 points, 400 assists and 700 rebounds, joining Duke's Danny Ferry and Florida State's Bob Sura. Hodge also set the school record for free throws made with 596. Hodge also has one thing that Fuller never had, ACC Player of the Year. Only the fourth State player to earn the award after Ronnie Shavlick (1956), David Thompson (1973, 1974, 1975), and Rodney Monroe (1991). Don't get me wrong, I think Todd Fuller was an outstanding player, but I think Hodge edges him out.

10/25/2007 7:41:37 PM

Williams, Mays, and Thornton will all be here for visits this weekend

10/26/2007 2:45:33 PM

^^Well I did say arguably. And look at the teams Fuller was on. They were terrible, he never got a chance to win awards, go to the NCAAs, etc because of it.

Fuller had a better NBA career it seems.

10/26/2007 2:59:35 PM

anyone know if John Wall and/or CJ Leslie will be there?

10/26/2007 8:36:19 PM

I'm not sure, but I imagine Wall, Leslie, and even Ryan Kelly could show up since they are local guys.

10/26/2007 8:43:10 PM

is parking normal or can i park at the rbc for this?

10/27/2007 12:03:32 PM

^too late now, but if you're not goin to the football game you'd have to park at teh vet school.

10/27/2007 1:14:47 PM

just got back from the game. hickson looked incredible on offense. there were a couple times on defense when he was off his man. degand also looked to be the best of the pg's out there. johnson got in a lot of foul trouble and only scored maybe 2 points. costner was having kind of an off shooting day. overall though it was nice to see 10 players that were decent on the floor for our team at one time.

10/27/2007 2:53:16 PM

^good news on the recruits.


how many people showed up?

this season is gunna be killer

10/27/2007 3:01:59 PM

^3/4 of the bottom bowl

we left after the first half but jj had almost all of the red's points at the half

farnold beat everyone down the court after a made basket twice and got the bucket and 1

everyone was making plays but they are still knocking the rust off

10/27/2007 3:07:09 PM

hickson was ridiculous and McCauley is shooting/ making 3s

10/27/2007 3:31:41 PM

damn was just looking at the R/W box score on gopack.com. Hickson lead all scorers with 21 pts and was 7/7 from the stripe. That's really good news if he is a solid FT shooter.

^ also looked it shows McCauley did not attempt a single 3 ptr? Not sure if you are wrong or the box score though.

[Edited on October 27, 2007 at 3:37 PM. Reason : ^]

10/27/2007 3:34:58 PM

my cousin just called me and he went. said Hickson is going to be beast. Good to see some depth this year. The ability to run all big guys, or put in all quick guys, should be interesting this year.

10/27/2007 5:47:11 PM

i saw "my cousin" and knew it was you posting

[Edited on October 27, 2007 at 5:48 PM. Reason : prevented the misquote]

10/27/2007 5:47:52 PM

were there any surprise recruits there to watch it?

10/27/2007 6:33:21 PM

saw CJ Leslie there, and who i think was Tyler Thorton??? sitting at half court on the side opposite from the benches

does anyone who was there know who that was?

[Edited on October 27, 2007 at 9:14 PM. Reason : and i'm calling it now...Hickson will be ACC ROY]

10/27/2007 8:59:18 PM

It's been said before but will be said many times this season: hickson is a beast, with the ball driving to the basket or slamming a blocked shot back in your face. I believe he ended up with 21pts or something like that and pretty much owned costner.

10/27/2007 9:33:53 PM

http://www.wral.com/sports/story/1976632/

10/27/2007 10:20:44 PM

jj hickson just may be the best basketball player in the entire world.

10/27/2007 11:01:59 PM

The N & O had decent coverage of the game as well.

http://tinyurl.com/2sh5ot

Towards the top of the page there are links to a video w/ highlights and one w/ commentary after the game from Sid, JJ, and McCauley.

10/28/2007 1:01:01 AM

we'll be lucky to keep hickson for more than a year

10/28/2007 2:20:47 AM

My observations...First the Red team:

Red

Hickson: He just confirmed what everyone already knew about him. He's the real deal. He's already ACC started material..the only things I saw that need improvement are conditioning and defense. Offensively as mature as any freshman big man I've ever watched live. Usually you can throw out Red/White stats because of bad matchups, but keep in mind he dropped 21 against the D of McCauley/Costner. Oh, and he can block shots. Like, really well.

Smith: Smith was upstaged by Hickson, but he put in the type of quiet and effective game that can really help a team win. He helped the Red team dominate the boards and tallied 7 rebounds. His 8 points on only 4 attempts and playing against Costner shows that Smith will likely be a very good player long-term. Smith has serious upside and great leaping ability, and it showed when he plucked the ball off the rim.

Degand: As impressive as Hickson was, I was most surprised and pleased with Degand's play. All the hype about his speed is real, and we're talking near Ty Lawson speed, but the impressive thing is that it wasn't wreckless. He pushed the tempo and only had 1 turnover really, and he seemed to know when to pull it back out and set up the offense. No dazzling passes or anything, but he seems 100% capable of filling the role that we need: a PG that can generate offense, set up the offense for the frontcourt, and take care of the ball. Absolutely the starter, and could cause tons of problems for teams with a slower guard (Duke, etc.). I can't rant enough about how impressive he was, especially considered that PG is supposed to be our question mark. He'll statistically have a bad year in terms of points, assists, etc. But that's fine. Degand seems to be an able ACC-caliber PG, and that's all we need.

Grant: Grant had a pretty good game but took less shots than I expected. I figured as the only senior, he'd assert himself more. Goodside: He's not being as stingy with the ball as last year. Badside: Still has fumblehands syndrome occasionally when he gets that look in his eye.

White
McCauley: Big Ben continues to impress and deliver quiet but good basketball. He works hard on the boards and it shows. He obviously was trying to increase his range and work on his jumper throughout the game(as was also rumored in practice, etc.) and I'd say about 75% of his shots were facing the basket and >10 feet...and it worked. He pulled Hickson out a few times and popped jumpers over him. It's the same old Ben with some new tricks. I like. McCauley as expected also dropped some nice Evtimov-like passes in there.

Costner: Costner was red hot at the end of the season. He came into the game and looked downright flat. He missed lots of shots that were mostly open, and he wasn't just goofing off either. Missed some 3's (1/5) as well, and generally got pushed around a bit on the inside. Tried to force the issue a few times, which usually works, but last night didn't. Finally hit his only 3 of the night near the buzzer, which it seems like he always pulls off.

Fells:He continues to be the most frustrating player to me. One minute he'll pull up a silky smooth jumper that makes him looks Jordanesque...the next, he'll disappear for entire minutes in a game. Oh, and he missed a sick windmill dunk that reminded me of Ced Simmons when he first arrived.

Simon Harris: Just wanted to comment on his athleticism. It's good. He can jump with the best of them and put in a very impressive performance for someone of his talent level. He won't get many minutes, but he could be a good role-player on this team. He clearly understands the game and has athleticism and hustle, but no talent. Missed some easy passes and turned it over some, but overall I was impressed.

Summary: Overall I was most impressed by the Red team dominating most of the game despite having freshman PF and C (in Hickson and Smith) and a new PG in Degand. The only starter on the team was Grant, who was only average. Still, they beat the more experienced team. That shows me that the starters everyone is expecting to be good this year better put up, or they'll be pressed for playing time. Everyone said this team could be great if they have a PG, and I really believe that we do. IMO, the problem won't be the PG, it'll be our lack of outside threats and general shooting talent. Our most talented players are the bigs and the slashing forwards. We should dominate the glass and post, and should take care of the ball, but streaky shooting could be this team's weakness.

10/28/2007 11:32:33 AM

its so weird to hear that we will dominate the boards this season

we have been bad at rebounding for soooo long

10/28/2007 1:02:54 PM

costner and mccauley said that they didn't go after them very hard last year due to fear of foul trouble

10/28/2007 1:45:33 PM

After watching his performance yesterday, Hickson is exactly what this team needs in terms of rebounding and putbacks. And he can be a monster on offense if you can get it to him inside, some of his dunks were unreal.

10/28/2007 1:48:10 PM

I'm starting to believe what gavin said more and more each day.

10/28/2007 2:10:21 PM

so that recruited walkon point guard clayton beard was not present. i haven't seen anyone mention it.

10/28/2007 3:09:11 PM

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"damn.......we wore some wicked shitty uniforms in the late 80's/early 90's"

those were mid 90's

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"Only the fourth State player to earn the award after Ronnie Shavlick (1956), David Thompson (1973, 1974, 1975), and Rodney Monroe (1991)."

the only reason fuller wasnt POY was Tim Duncan. I think fuller was AA?

10/28/2007 6:43:00 PM

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"those were mid 90's"

yah, i know, but im trying to include those singlet things that nike tried to make the corchiani led teams. Guess it was a bad idea

10/28/2007 8:04:05 PM

Fuller was all american his senior year

10/28/2007 8:14:19 PM

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"He'll statistically have a bad year in terms of points, assists, etc. But that's fine."

Why do you say that? Points maybe because we don't need him to score. I would think there would be lots and lots of assists for him on this team though. What did Marques Johnson/Javi Gonzalez look like?

10/28/2007 8:46:49 PM

gonzalez didn't play (wrist), and marques johnson looked like he could average double digits in fouls if it weren't for fouling out.

10/28/2007 8:57:47 PM

he still managed 8 fouls

10/28/2007 10:05:24 PM

degand/hickson impressed me the most

fells/grant didn't seem to improve much from last year. but who can tell in this type of game.

10/28/2007 10:53:28 PM

haha, whoever was managing the stats must have been high or something. They got a little happy with the fouls.

10/28/2007 10:57:37 PM

altho the video is mainly for another player. some nice highlights of JJ Hickson dunking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WxqFeMWFrs

(Hickson is #44 in this video)

[Edited on October 28, 2007 at 11:00 PM. Reason : a]

10/28/2007 10:59:22 PM

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"Why do you say that? Points maybe because we don't need him to score. I would think there would be lots and lots of assists for him on this team though. What did Marques Johnson/Javi Gonzalez look like?"

The only time I saw Degand try to generate offense was on the fast break. Other than that, he just got the ball up the court and made the first pass on offense. He didn't look to shoot at all in the half-court, and didn't really factor in by making cuts or trying to pass to a cutter or inside man.

Many of those things are good things. He seemed to know his role well, and that we don't need him to try to do those things. But it just seems like he'll be the kind of guy who gets 6 ppg, 4-6 assists per game, etc. and still be a good PG for us.

Johnson is notably slower than Degand (but who won't be?) but seemed to still know how to run the point. He is much more akin to Atsur. There's just a difference between a true PG and a SG playing PG, and Johnson shows it. He's under control and methodical.

10/29/2007 9:11:09 AM

for those asking about recruits being at the game. PackPride is reporting that

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"Julius Mays, CJ Williams, CJ Leslie, Ryan Kelly and a 6'9" teammate from Africa, John Wall, Tyler Thorton and a small sophomore point guard from Charlotte were all at the Red and White game. All appeared to be having a very good time. All followed the coaching staff after the game"

10/29/2007 9:47:54 AM

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff215/NCStateDude/IMG_3291_edited.jpg?t=1193604413



http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff215/NCStateDude/IMG_3326_edited.jpg?t=1193620775

10/29/2007 10:15:47 AM