so thats what the big word in Michigan is now, that Lloyd Carr has told folks he plans to retire after this season, primarily if and WHEN the buckeyes beat Michigan this year.

also Les Miles has been in talks with the Michigan staff and even has a clause in his contract specifically for Michigan.


seems bad for LSU especially at the end of the year if they make a NC run...

is the LSU job that much worse than Michigan? big 10 vs SEC I guess so, i would take the money and run...

11/13/2007 10:39:24 AM

the competition would be easier and he has recruiting ties to SEC country

miles could bring michigan back to dominating the big 10

11/13/2007 10:40:52 AM

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"miles could bring michigan back to dominating the big 10 nation."

kinda scary to think about him going there

then again some of their games this year they have squeaked by...its interesting thats for sure.

11/13/2007 10:43:38 AM

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"is the LSU job that much worse than Michigan?"

i think it has more to do w/ miles being a um guy than it does w/ lsu job vs. michigan job.

11/13/2007 10:44:38 AM

everyone is hating on the big 10 this year (and for good reason), but lets be real, the Michigan job is about as high profile as it gets. And that's coming from a Buckeye fan.

11/13/2007 10:48:39 AM

A football season as the Michigan coach is more less stressful on a week to week basis than as the LSU coach.

In the Big 10, you play Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, and then a bunch of teams who forever linger in mediocrity. Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan State, Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, Iowa---none of these teams is very strong on yearly basis. You have no conference title game---your season is defined by what you do in one game every year, but every year you have a very good chance of making it to that game with less than 2 losses.

In the SEC, you play Auburn, Alabama, Flordia, Tennessee, Georgia, and then a bunch of teams who anyone would take over the middle class Big 10 teams. Every week is a fucking grind. Ohio State losing at home to Illinois cut them out of the NC discussion. LSU losing to Kentucky on the road has them sitting in the drivers seat. Then you have the championship game in Atlanta, where even if you go 12-0 before that, one loss and you may not even go to a BCS bowl.

LSU is a much more challenging job, but Michigan is still more of a marquee name school nationally. If Miles can get equal or more money in Ann Arbor, he'd be a fool not to take it.

11/13/2007 10:49:14 AM

The only thing objectively better about the UM job is an easier schedule, and I suppose school ties.

LSU wins at fanbase (especially home field advantage), recruiting territory, and climate.

11/13/2007 10:51:40 AM

Michigan is a bigger name

11/13/2007 12:48:08 PM

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"Carr to retire "

even though the 'Michigan' clearly let me know it was Lloyd Carr, some part of me was hoping that David Carr was retiring...and by some part, I mean every part

11/13/2007 12:49:04 PM

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"A football season as the Michigan coach is more less stressful on a week to week basis than as the LSU coach. "

not if your season starts with a loss to App St

11/13/2007 4:10:01 PM

11/13/2007 8:23:20 PM

miles has an out clause in his contract to go to michigan

he got his start there and i bet that is his dream job

11/13/2007 9:10:40 PM

old.... but ok

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"primarily if and WHEN the buckeyes beat Michigan this year."

thats cute... fucker

wheres that fag saying les miles had it made at lsu??? cause what im seeing in this thread is smarter people realizing that "HE" realizes he would dominate the big ten with a team like the LSU one he has and thats what he should go for (just worrying about one game a year after he goes 11-0 going into the always tough buckeye battle because tressel will always have it goin on there)... oh and the small fact he coached under "THE" Bo Schembechler and it's his alma mater...

but, it doesnt happen til it happens... lets pray for it

11/13/2007 9:13:27 PM

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"LSU wins at fanbase (especially home field advantage), recruiting territory, and climate."

Fanbase, how? I've never met an LSU fan. I've met tons of Michigan fans.

Recruiting Territory? Agreed, it helps when you're the only school in your state.

Climate? The weather is better in Louisiana. One reason I want to see SEC schools play at Big 10 schools in November.

[Edited on November 13, 2007 at 9:19 PM. Reason : /]

11/13/2007 9:17:49 PM

They will probably go for Butch

11/13/2007 9:21:20 PM

^^ I've met just as many LSU fans as I have Michigan fans... but I dont think he was talking about the number of fans but more the stadium environment/crowd

[Edited on November 14, 2007 at 1:13 AM. Reason : d]

11/14/2007 1:13:39 AM

Weren't most of you TWWers scoffing at the idea of Les leaving lsu for Michigan not too long ago?

11/14/2007 9:08:24 AM

well 1/2 is done

now just wait till we hear about Les

11/19/2007 12:21:04 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3136391

early next week? makes you wonder if the players will play hard in whatever bowl game lsu goes to...

12/1/2007 11:06:13 AM

maybe the "source" has his money riding on tennessee in the SEC championship game and wants a little security...

12/1/2007 11:10:15 AM

^^^^ never said he wouldnt leave... just said he shouldnt leave

12/1/2007 11:16:10 AM

quite a disappointing season for lsu.

12/1/2007 11:59:13 AM

now that espn link is saying he's staying at LSU.

hahaha... fuck scUM

12/1/2007 1:01:54 PM

haha, fuck the bucks, and go MIZZOU

12/1/2007 1:03:01 PM

wow, thats huge if Miles stays at LSU. I thought this was all but a done deal

12/1/2007 1:34:17 PM

^ truly. I doubt it holds. UoM will up the ante until the sun sets.

12/1/2007 1:35:45 PM

im pretty sure they have to say this whether it is true or not as news came out that they are losing their defensive coordinator right before the SEC championship game

[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 6:24 PM. Reason : .]

12/1/2007 6:23:53 PM

i think its bullshit... hes just trying to keep his players focused. the contract wasnt signed... he'll pull a nick saban

12/1/2007 6:44:27 PM

lol. A loss tonight and I definitely think he's going to michigan. Baton Rouge is going to light a fire under his ass.

[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 6:47 PM. Reason : ]

12/1/2007 6:46:36 PM

hahahahahhaha i just listened to the conference..... he said I 'AM' the coach at LSU.... he never said shit about next year... which if he wanted THAT clarified he would have said so
espn is stupid

12/1/2007 6:49:42 PM

He actually also said "I will be"

12/1/2007 7:08:39 PM

"will be" when? When Les? Today... tomorrow, the bowl game? OK thanks for the clarification... Cause technically he'd be correct

12/1/2007 7:09:47 PM

There it is. "Yes, I WILL be the coach at LSU next year."

12/1/2007 9:21:24 PM

Guarantee you he's at Michigan next year.

12/1/2007 9:22:19 PM

hah, I hope he leaves.

[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 9:24 PM. Reason : ]

12/1/2007 9:22:37 PM

^^ Oh, I still believe. Just sayin' it's gonna be a hell of a 180.

12/1/2007 9:24:39 PM

this is standard coach talk.

12/1/2007 10:06:12 PM

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"There it is. "Yes, I WILL be the coach at LSU next year.""

December is here...it will soon be 2008

12/1/2007 10:08:23 PM