company just drew for random drug tests and i got called. oh fuck im probably screwed

11/28/2007 8:52:59 AM

start pounding the water down

11/28/2007 8:53:31 AM

don't do drugs?

11/28/2007 8:54:32 AM

should've listened to Nancy Reagan.

11/28/2007 8:57:50 AM

Quote :

"don't do work for a company that tests for drugs?"

unless your performance is an issue at work, what you do outside of work shouldn't be subject to scrutiny.

11/28/2007 9:06:02 AM

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"unless your performance is an issue at work, what you do outside of work shouldn't be subject to scrutiny."

yeah

and what utopian company does that

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:08 AM. Reason : glglglglglglglglglglglgl]

11/28/2007 9:07:59 AM

yeah if you gouge someone's eyes out and pee in the empty socket outside of work, by golly, as long as you do fantastic work here, we have no problems!

11/28/2007 9:08:57 AM

Quote :

" and what utopian company does that"

a lot of companies do not drug test.

Quote :

"yeah if you gouge someone's eyes out and pee in the empty socket outside of work, by golly, as long as you do fantastic work here, we have no problems!"

going to jail hinders your job performance, i believe.

11/28/2007 9:09:50 AM

Dad is going to be really disappointed

11/28/2007 9:10:05 AM

stab yourself and say you gotta go home and sleep it off

11/28/2007 9:11:48 AM

time to pull an onterrio smith?

11/28/2007 9:13:25 AM

My company doesn't test

11/28/2007 9:14:11 AM

i dont do drugs

so i am ok

11/28/2007 9:15:07 AM

what you do outside of work shouldn't be subject to scrutiny

regardless of whether or not your performance is an issue at work

(when is your performance not an issue, anyway?)



companies should only care about what you bring to work

(physically, mentally, emotionally, etc.)

11/28/2007 9:16:13 AM

See you in hell, pinko.

11/28/2007 9:16:26 AM

^^ except what you do outside of work can effect your performance at work

11/28/2007 9:17:22 AM

The Original Whizzinator

11/28/2007 9:17:45 AM

Quote :

"don't do drugs?"

ahahaha


pwned

Quote :

"Dad is going to be really disappointed"

disOWNment?

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:18 AM. Reason : yeah, im not proud of that one at all]

11/28/2007 9:18:00 AM

if they test for drugs, they should test for alcohol.

because if you drink then surely you are an alcoholic.

i too find it kind of crazy. im down for drug tests, but what type of drugs?? and how can you be sure its not happening at work?

i also feel that as long as you dont bring it to work, you're fine. but there will be that time when it will cross paths, and you will miss work because you are high/on drugs/drunk.

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:25 AM. Reason : ]

11/28/2007 9:18:34 AM

Quote :

"going to jail hinders your job performance, i believe."

getting caught with drugs can also land you in jail, i believe.

11/28/2007 9:18:34 AM

you mean

Quote :

"i dont do illegal drugs so i am ok"

or do you really not consume any alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, otc's, or prescriptions?

Quote :

"See you in hell, pinko."

I don't get it

why the hell would a communist "be more likely" to use [illegal] drugs? (if that's what you're suggesting)

am I missing something?

11/28/2007 9:20:03 AM

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"or do you really not consume any alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, otc's, or prescriptions?"

lets be real here.

clearly when we are talking about drugs we are talking about the drugs that show up on drug tests.

unless caffeine, and alcohol show up (which i dont know because ive never done a test)

11/28/2007 9:21:42 AM

drugs are bad.

11/28/2007 9:22:07 AM

just say you had a poppy seed pound cake for breakfast

11/28/2007 9:22:14 AM

yeah i bet more productivity is lost to hangovers than recreational pot use

11/28/2007 9:23:06 AM

^^^^depends on the test

i THINK hair tests can reveal alcohol use, and i'm pretty sure that any drug use, whether you flushed your system or not, will show up in hair tests

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:23 AM. Reason : 666!]

Quote :

"yeah i bet more productivity is lost to hangovers TWW than recreational pot use"

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:24 AM. Reason : there should be a TWW test]

11/28/2007 9:23:17 AM

ive "heard" it takes a few months for it to get out of your hair.

11/28/2007 9:24:44 AM

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"if they test for drugs, they should test for alcohol."

agreed

Quote :

"you will miss work because you are high/on drugs/drunk."

thats what sick days are for bro!

Quote :

"getting caught with drugs can also land you in jail, i believe."

in some cases, yes.

Quote :

" am I missing something?"

yea, you're missing this

Quote :

"According to an October 2002 Time/CNN poll, nearly half of Americans (47 percent) have smoked pot at least once."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m4021/is_5_25/ai_102102598

11/28/2007 9:25:04 AM

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"whether you flushed your system or not"

Considering how shitty LabCorp is (one of the most used testers) I'd say you've got a pretty good chance to have some things not show up if you make sure your urine is diluted enough- as long as it hasn't been TOO recent.

There are minimum levels that these inexpensive tests are able to catch- so if you're close to the edge of detectability already then yes drinking lots of water and peeing constantly for the whole day before can push you below that threshold.

Quote :

"if they test for drugs, they should test for alcohol."

The legality is a non-trivial difference. But yeah the real issues should only be performance-related. If you get high at home and do a great job, it's not your boss's place to play cop. It's not like you're say... using the company's internet connection to hit on 12 year olds on myspace.

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:29 AM. Reason : ]

11/28/2007 9:26:51 AM

hahahaha i love coming back to this.

well i think i paniced more than i should have. I didn't have too much time to pound water b/c our office is a block away from a LabCorp. I think I should actually be ok. I haven't smoked marijuana in probably 6 months, but two weeks ago i hit a blunt a few times while I was camping so i'm not worried about that. My metabolism is still very fast.

and i haven't done any other stuff since last friday, and its an in and out chemical so i feel ok about it.

but god it just sucks period. I've been on a performance roll as of late and to lose the job over something like this would just plain blow.

11/28/2007 9:33:49 AM

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"except what you do outside of work can effect your performance at work "

that's no excuse

by that logic

EVERY activity that EVERY employee does outside of work should be scrutinized

gg big brother

if one's job performance suffers, then they get terminated

but employers shouldn't demand that employees "qualify" in ways irrelevant to their job performance


besides, the tests don't reveal anything logical

suppose someone tests positive

what does that mean?

that their job performance MUST BE somehow suffering, even if no suffering is evident?

it doesn't make any sense

how does a [illegal] drug test determine job performance? it doesn't.

all it says is

"hello, our company has a 1950's prejudicial attitude towards drug use"

11/28/2007 9:34:36 AM

cocaine is a helluva drug

11/28/2007 9:34:45 AM

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"thats what sick days are for bro!"

i dont know, i dont think i could use a sick day because i was doped out.

because then with my luck, ill get sick and get questioned.


because if jeepin4x4 gets fired because his test came up positive, whats his excuse going to be?

i had a friend who lost 2 awesome jobs (for him at least) because of drug tests. yeah i guess they are random, but now he is stuck doing something that he probably doesnt like.

11/28/2007 9:36:14 AM

my pee was really yellow

11/28/2007 9:36:53 AM

speaking of which. i gotta poo

brb

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:37 AM. Reason : ]

11/28/2007 9:37:40 AM

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"i dont know, i dont think i could use a sick day because i was doped out."

That's why you don't do the shit in the middle of the week then.

11/28/2007 9:40:01 AM

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"i hit a blunt a few times while I was camping "

sounds like a fun camping trip !!!

11/28/2007 9:40:09 AM

I have been doing better than ever since stopping everything...you should too!

11/28/2007 9:40:45 AM

Quote :

"besides, the tests don't reveal anything logical suppose someone tests positive what does that mean? "

it means their employee is breaking the law. most people think that people who break laws cant be trusted (and dont bring up traffic laws...i will do that for you). you can get fired for getting a DUI and getting convicted of any number of small/major crimes. you can get fired for getting a speeding ticket in a company car. doing drugs is no different. if there was a blood test that could determine if you were stealing shit, they would probably give you that one too.

heres an idea: be a grownup and dont do drugs instead of bitching about a private company enforcing their internal policies.

11/28/2007 9:40:48 AM

hahaha im not bitching about shit, i knew the policies. but i also had the "this can't happen to me" outlook on things. especially when you have 200+ people out in the field (in 3 branches) on hourly pay who are in danger of comprimising safety and work and 5 people in the office (at this branch) and 3 get called for tests.

11/28/2007 9:43:43 AM

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"a lot of companies do not drug test"

yeah like bars and restaurants

also if your company does i think like $75,000 / year worth of business with the federal government its mandatory

11/28/2007 9:47:12 AM

Quote :

"yeah i bet more productivity is lost to hangovers than recreational pot use"

I can pull "facts" out of my ass, too.

Feels good.

11/28/2007 9:51:01 AM

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"also if your company does i think like $75,000 / year worth of business with the federal government its mandatory"

Wrong. If you contract with the government then they can request any field workers to be tested (at random or en masse) but your company is not required to randomly test on their own.

11/28/2007 9:51:26 AM

^^ [no homo]




how hard is it for you people not to fucking do drugs. Look at Ricky Williams now. Motherfucker couldn't put the shit down.

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:52 AM. Reason : .]

11/28/2007 9:51:34 AM

it's always funny when this thread is made

11/28/2007 9:51:47 AM

can you dispute results? if they found anything it would be traces if anything at all.

11/28/2007 9:52:03 AM

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"I can pull "facts" out of my ass, too. Feels good."

did you miss the whole

"i bet"

part

step off

11/28/2007 9:52:36 AM

Quote :

" I can pull "facts" out of my ass, too. Feels good. "

kind sir, i dont think he was trying to state a "fact".. i think he was just thinking that its a funny thought.

11/28/2007 9:52:48 AM

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"it means their employee is breaking the law..... doing drugs is no different."

wow

you really are clueless (no offense)

you are aware that some laws are unjust, right?

the prohibition of drugs is one of the biggest mistakes our country has ever made

and it will come to an end, I can promise you that

you see,

while breaking some laws clearly show that you can't be trusted, or that you're are irresponsible

certain "crimes" are "committed" every day by completely responsible and trustworthy adults

illegal drug use is the most common of these "crimes"

there is absolutely nothing that a positive drug test can imply about an employee. nothing. period.

that's like trying to infer something based on their gender, age, race, etc

(that's right, one's decision to use drugs shouldn't be discriminated against, at all)

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"heres an idea: be a grownup and dont do drugs instead of bitching about a private company enforcing their internal policies"

holy fucking church lady

you are soooo cool

first of all, only "grownups" should be using drugs in the first place

what the fuck are you talking about?

you fucking tool

HEY GUYS!!! I'M COOL BECAUSE I DON'T DO DRUGS. BE LIKE ME. DRUGS ARE FOR KIDS!!

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:56 AM. Reason : imply/infer ]

11/28/2007 9:53:07 AM

Jeepin4x4 where do you work? I work in the same building as a LabCorp on Bush St. (off Navaho from wake forest rd.)

11/28/2007 9:53:22 AM