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chembob
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glad to see you didn't kill yourself, hooksaw.

11/5/2008 8:19:57 PM

hooksaw
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SUICIDE IS METRO, SON!

11/6/2008 2:29:24 AM

aimorris
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The work his administration has done in Africa should definitely be one of the bright spots in his legacy

11/18/2008 1:37:04 PM

joe_schmoe
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LOL it's the *only* bright spot.






but that doesn't leave much for all you "America Firsters"

11/18/2008 2:07:56 PM

Boone
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"It's Bush Legacy Time, People"


What do you mean, people?

11/18/2008 4:00:51 PM

hooksaw
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^ That only works if one uses "you people," dummyhead.

[Edited on November 18, 2008 at 6:57 PM. Reason : PS: ]

11/18/2008 6:56:15 PM

Boone
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The (you) is implied, (you) racist.

11/18/2008 7:09:39 PM

hooksaw
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^ Incorrect--you inferred this. "You" was neither implied nor understood.

Quit while you're behind. And I understand that you were probably joking, but on behalf of everyone here, I request that you instead try the funny kind of humor.

11/18/2008 7:20:57 PM

jstpack
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I just wanted to once again quote this genius statement by the original poster....

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"Now Bush is rebuilding relationships with some European countries; enjoying a little bit of "I told you so" in Iraq; presiding over a resilient economy--despite the doom-and-gloom crowd; "


bwahahahahahahaha

11/23/2008 1:00:06 PM

hooksaw
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^ Two out of three ain't bad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_Tf2lQvDz0

In any event, the U.S. economy is in fact resilient.

11/25/2008 3:41:21 PM

TKEshultz
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some people on here just disgust me

bush was not responsible for the iraqi conflict ..

bush was responsible for how he responded to 9-11

bush was responsible for the demise of saddam hussien

bush was NOT responsible for the economy falling .. to blame him speaks volumes

we have been safe ... but freedom doesnt come cheap or easy .. obviously living here without working is easy

we took a tyrant out of power who murdered hundreds of thousands innocent people .. wheres your bleeding heart there?

[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 3:52 PM. Reason : ]

11/25/2008 3:51:51 PM

marko
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i was all for taking that dude out

but what i wanted was for us to say "we helped create this frankenstein in the 80s, now we must destroy it in the 00s"

but there was no notion of shared culpability

11/25/2008 3:58:25 PM

HUR
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"but freedom doesnt come cheap or easy"


how about my freedom to make a phone call with out the NSA checking in on me in the name of "National Security"

11/25/2008 4:00:52 PM

TKEshultz
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freedom doesnt come cheap or easy

once again

..dont talk about planning bomb attacks or anything like that and they wont

fair enough

[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 4:26 PM. Reason : ]

11/25/2008 4:26:07 PM

Mr. Joshua
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$1.05

11/25/2008 4:33:47 PM

wlb420
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"freedom doesnt come cheap or easy"


but it sure can go away with the stroke of a pen.....and usually under the guise of "saftey"

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"bush was not responsible for the iraqi conflict "


Please elaborate

[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 4:36 PM. Reason : .]

11/25/2008 4:34:30 PM

TKEshultz
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tell that to the people on the flights of 911 and in the pentagon and in the world trade center

^bush gave saddam almost a year to let the UN inspect thoroughly .. he didnt


give me a break

[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 4:38 PM. Reason : ]

11/25/2008 4:37:00 PM

wlb420
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"tell that to the people on the flights of 911 and in the pentagon and in the world trade center"


I'd hope they would be appaled at our direction too...


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"bush gave saddam almost a year to let the UN inspect thoroughly .. he didnt"


how many disputes does the UN/US currently have with countries around the world? And how many full scale invasions/occupations have these disputes caused....face it they fabricated evidence, and went in on a lie.

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"give me a break"


my feelings exactly

[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 4:47 PM. Reason : .]

11/25/2008 4:46:43 PM

TKEshultz
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so you condone genocide

so you condone mass killings


..k, just to understand


bush gave saddam a time span to let UN inspectors do their job ... HE DIDNT .. HES A FUCKING TYRANT, HES ALREADY INVADED KUWAIT, YOU FUCKING NUMBNUT

WHAT THE FUCK WAS BUSH SUPPOSED TO DO, LET HIM BUILD WEAPONS? .. NO WONDER THEY DIDNT FIND ANYTHING. THEY WERE GONE BEFORE THEY GOT THERE .. THEY FOUND TRACE SAMPLES OF BIO WEAPONS IN THE ABANDONED WAREHOUSES .... ABANDONED!! WHY THE FUCK WERE THEY ABANDONED ... WAKE UP MAN!

11/25/2008 4:53:42 PM

wlb420
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^using the reasoning in that post alone, we should be invading dozens of countries around the world....

11/25/2008 4:58:05 PM

TKEshultz
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names

11/25/2008 5:00:24 PM

nattrngnabob
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Several African countries. N. Korea, Iran, hell, even Russia has been known to kill an opposition sympathizer or two, not to to mention invading Georgia.


Face it, you don't know what you're talking about and you never have. You trumpeting arguments that were killed years ago and are intellectually bankrupt. You're giving tke a bad name.

11/25/2008 5:46:53 PM

TKEshultz
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so we condone tyrants now? .. we condone mass killings? we condone genocide?

yea these arguments were killed years ago, when a tyrant swung from the gallows

11/25/2008 6:27:33 PM

joe_schmoe
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ooh you're so clever.

teach me your logic-defying tricks, please!

11/25/2008 7:31:32 PM

marko
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11/25/2008 7:34:51 PM

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"so we condone tyrants now? .. we condone mass killings? we condone genocide?

yea these arguments were killed years ago, when a tyrant swung from the gallows"


What does that have to do with my freedom? I'll tell ya...



NOT A GOD DAMN THING


You stupid twerp.

11/25/2008 7:46:06 PM

tromboner950
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"You're giving tke a bad name."


They had a good name?

11/25/2008 7:50:03 PM

joe_schmoe
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i think he's actually embarrassing people who are associated with TKE.

and that's saying something.

11/25/2008 7:57:39 PM

HUR
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"so we condone tyrants now? "


come on Shultz we have supported tyrants thought out american history and even put them in office. They are cool with USA #1 as long as they are being nice and undertake policies beneficial to US businesses.

11/25/2008 10:03:57 PM

WillemJoel
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I think the frat guy missed marko's bit about creating Frankenstein in the 80s and killing him in the 00s.

yes, we have historically helped tyrants get and/or keep power in order to serve our own interests abroad. far too many cases of this.

11/25/2008 11:15:37 PM

moron
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Bush talks about his own legacy: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/28/bush-weighs-in-on-his-legacy/

The guy who coined the term "Axis of EVIL!!1!!" wants to be remembered as a peacemaker?



[Edited on November 30, 2008 at 6:33 PM. Reason : ]

11/30/2008 6:30:21 PM

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"7 years no turrist attacks on us soil"

12/1/2008 9:46:44 PM

Amsterdam718
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i don't think the Bush 43 presidency was as bad as people make it out to be. alot of the policy that failed was made before he took office. i think he failed to correct some things, but hindsight is 20/20.

i think history will serve him better. i'm thankful McCain didn't win though.

12/1/2008 10:17:21 PM

agentlion
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the decisions to invade iraq and torture people were made before he came to office?
interesting.....

12/1/2008 11:05:30 PM

Erios
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"bush was not responsible for the iraqi conflict .."


Verdict: True, but misleading. Dealing with Iraq was not a choice, but rather a reality. Choosing to go to war however was his choice, as was the manner in which it was conducted.

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"bush was responsible for how he responded to 9-11...

...we have been safe ... but freedom doesnt come cheap or easy .. obviously living here without working is easy"


Verdict: True. He did some things right and some things wrong. We removed the Taliban from power and we prevented another attack on American soil, but Osama bin Laden remains at large and IMO invading Iraq was a bad move.

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"bush was NOT responsible for the economy falling .. to blame him speaks volumes "


Verdict: True. Very True. I disagree with some of his economic policies, but President's are very rarely ever to blame for short-term economic downturns. Bush Sr. didn't deserve to be outed for the recession in 1991 anymore than W. should be thrown under the bus for the current recession.

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"bush was responsible for the demise of saddam hussien...

...we took a tyrant out of power who murdered hundreds of thousands innocent people .. wheres your bleeding heart there?"


Verdict: True, but incomplete. You're implying that the US is obliged to intervene directly in order to stop genocide wherever it occurs. I suppose then that you broke ranks with the GOP when they attacked Clinton for going into Bosnia? The point is that Iraq is much bigger than "removing an evil dictator." Hundreds of thousands of civilians have been killed in the Iraqi conflict. Millions of refugees have fled their homes, some by choice but far more out of necessity. The war also led to years of sectarian violence and ethnic cleansing which were, to one extent or another, unavoidable even with the presence of the US military.

In short, we have to admit that, by choosing to go to war, it is entirely possible to do more harm than good. Refusing to admit this possibility makes any further discussion irrelevant.



[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 3:16 PM. Reason : [Edited on December 2, 2008 at 3:15 PM. Reason : asfdg]]

12/2/2008 3:11:45 PM

agentlion
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how's this for a legacy
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"So it's a particularly amusing sign of how far the political climate has shifted that in the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, only 33 percent of respondents admit to having voted for the guy twice, while 52 percent said they'd never voted for him at all. If that were actually true, of course, Bush would never have had the chance to run the country so firmly into the ground that people are now pretending they never liked him.

Just 18 percent of people surveyed said they were going to miss Bush; 79 percent said they wouldn't miss him."

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/12/11/nbc_poll/

12/12/2008 10:30:27 PM

Kurtis636
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He pardoned Jon Forte so he's ok in my book!

12/12/2008 10:46:23 PM

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"It is important that there is only one president at a time, anything bad that happens between now and Jans 20th is not my fault. "

12/12/2008 11:02:25 PM

jstpack
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Bush is adding to his legacy, as he now looks to give out some of the bailout cash to the big 3 after the 14 billion was shot down yesterday.

This dude has done more to push the US toward socialism than any president since FDR.... christ.

12/13/2008 11:20:11 AM

TKEshultz
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"We should remember that fact in 2009, when the once-messianic Obama will become all too human, as he is overwhelmed by structural problems of terror, war, and money not all of his own making — and the once-demonized but now retired George W. Bush will seem downright competent."

12/13/2008 3:17:05 PM

agentlion
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ha, yeah we'll see.

You're acting as if every president has fucked up as much as Bush has, and we just all have short memories.

Nobody is claiming that Obama will have it easy or he will breeze through any of the problems facing him. But one thing we can already be sure of is that he will be more intelligently and critically evaluate the mountain of issues that Bush has.

12/13/2008 3:37:50 PM

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"Bush will seem downright competent"


aint a goddamned thing in the world that could ever make that happen.

-- joe_schmoe, 13 Dec 2008

12/13/2008 11:41:03 PM

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you wanna talk "legacy"?

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"Bush's midnight regulations will:

• Make it easier for coal companies to dump waste from strip-mining into valleys and streams.

• Ease the building of coal-fired power stations nearer to national parks.

• Allow people to carry loaded and concealed weapons in national parks.

• Open up millions of acres to mining for oil shale.

• Allow healthcare workers to opt out of giving treatment for religious or moral reasons, thus weakening abortion rights.

• Hurt road safety by allowing truck drivers to stay at the wheel for 11 consecutive hours."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/14/george-bush-midnight-regulations/
at what point do the remaining 23%ers realize they are the dregs of society who are supporting so many ideas from the 1800s?

12/14/2008 2:36:23 PM

Talage
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"• Allow healthcare workers to opt out of giving treatment for religious or moral reasons, thus weakening abortion rights."


Wait, so you want to FORCE someone to do something they feel is immoral so you can protect the right of someone else to have an abortion? Fucking liberals.

12/14/2008 2:42:42 PM

agentlion
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^ It's the same argument that pharmacists use when the refuse to fill prescriptions for RU-486 or other birth control.
The point is - if part of your job is an afront to your moral or religious beliefs, then you need to find a new job.

12/14/2008 4:06:12 PM

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"aint a goddamned thing in the world that could ever make that happen."

President Palin?

12/14/2008 5:44:10 PM

agentlion
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maybe he can be remembered for having pretty good reflexes for a 62 year old
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/28223089#28223089

12/14/2008 6:14:33 PM

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"Allow people to carry loaded and concealed weapons in national parks."


Damn straight!

[Edited on December 14, 2008 at 6:16 PM. Reason : Why didn't he do more intelligent things like this before?]

12/14/2008 6:16:15 PM

joe_schmoe
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^^^

12/14/2008 11:30:01 PM

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/14/world/middleeast/14reconstruct.html?_r=1


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"BAGHDAD — An unpublished 513-page federal history of the American-led reconstruction of Iraq depicts an effort crippled before the invasion by Pentagon planners who were hostile to the idea of rebuilding a foreign country, and then molded into a $100 billion failure by bureaucratic turf wars, spiraling violence and ignorance of the basic elements of Iraqi society and infrastructure.

The history, the first official account of its kind, is circulating in draft form here and in Washington among a tight circle of technical reviewers, policy experts and senior officials. It also concludes that when the reconstruction began to lag — particularly in the critical area of rebuilding the Iraqi police and army — the Pentagon simply put out inflated measures of progress to cover up the failures.

In one passage, for example, former Secretary of State Colin L. Powell is quoted as saying that in the months after the 2003 invasion, the Defense Department “kept inventing numbers of Iraqi security forces — the number would jump 20,000 a week! ‘We now have 80,000, we now have 100,000, we now have 120,000.’ ”

Mr. Powell’s assertion that the Pentagon inflated the number of competent Iraqi security forces is backed up by Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez, the former commander of ground troops in Iraq, and L. Paul Bremer III, the top civilian administrator until an Iraqi government took over in June 2004.

...

"

12/14/2008 11:45:38 PM

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