system manager or system administrator?

where system=random .net application

11/30/2007 4:34:52 PM

system administrator

11/30/2007 4:35:29 PM

yeah thats what i thought too

just confirming

thx yo

(howd that interview go?)

11/30/2007 4:37:27 PM

said she'd call me next week

11/30/2007 4:38:11 PM

that's what she said

11/30/2007 4:41:39 PM

manager

11/30/2007 4:43:00 PM

that is indeed what she said

11/30/2007 4:43:54 PM

Managing Administrator

11/30/2007 4:45:03 PM

^that's the job you get when you've been there 25 years, own 1/6 the company and really just swill the coffee for a living.

11/30/2007 5:02:10 PM

bttt

11/30/2007 7:01:19 PM

i think manager is a more concrete term than "administrator"

11/30/2007 7:03:34 PM

manager...


administrator seems more like a tech support guy

manager seems like a guy that makes important decisions and leads people

11/30/2007 7:41:30 PM

manager sounds like somebody who talks a lot but doesn't actually do anything

administrator sounds like somebody who gets shit done

11/30/2007 7:42:45 PM

and the admin can change around passwords and things on the managers

administrator ftw

11/30/2007 7:58:33 PM

leaning towards administrator

anyone else?

12/11/2007 4:21:38 PM

admin ftw

12/11/2007 4:22:38 PM

does it make a pay difference?

12/11/2007 4:22:50 PM

naw. same job, same pay. pick the title.

12/11/2007 4:26:44 PM

Director of Information Technology

or

IT Director

12/11/2007 4:27:10 PM

unfortunately director isn't one of the choices

im not that old yet

12/11/2007 4:29:42 PM

well admin makes it sounds like you are the shit

12/11/2007 4:30:36 PM

not really

system admin makes you sound like just a day to day runner of things menial and trivial

system manager sounds more of a proactive leadership role, with the capacity to do anything to the system you want.

12/11/2007 4:32:03 PM

System Administrator

Since "System" is not a person, system manager doesn't make sense. When I think of managers, I think of managing people.

That is like saying Forklift Manager instead of Forklift Operator.

12/11/2007 4:32:26 PM

^ good point

12/11/2007 4:36:57 PM

IT Supervisor

12/11/2007 4:38:07 PM

I prefer... "The Man"

12/11/2007 4:58:14 PM

Admin>Manager

12/11/2007 5:00:43 PM

I want my employees to call me "Shitdicker"

12/11/2007 5:42:17 PM

yeah administrator is better....that one person put up a good point

be like i administrate the system mf

12/11/2007 5:43:22 PM

admin

12/11/2007 7:46:06 PM

who cares about the title??? Which one pays more? lol

12/11/2007 7:58:07 PM

Read the thread. Its one page.

12/11/2007 10:00:08 PM

Im not reading this shitty thread

12/11/2007 10:13:13 PM

Manager.

12/11/2007 10:14:35 PM

system manager is widely used for someone who manages personnel
system administrator is widely used for generic lan admin/support guy

something like applications analyst would be more fitting and doesn't carry some negative connotation

12/12/2007 12:18:20 AM

^oooh thats almost my job title: applications services analyst

12/12/2007 12:22:14 AM

System Administrator

If for no other reason, when you apply for jobs in the future and the company pre-screens their resumes using software I'd bet "System Administrator" is one of the keywords they are looking for. Manager might help if you're applying to be a manager, but it is too vague to be a keyword hit when they are looking for a sys admin.

Also, System Administrator is commonly used. If I'm looking to hire a sys admin and your resume comes in saying "System Manager" I'll probably either assume you're a low totem person being creative to sound important or just scrap it because it's not worth my time to find out.

[Edited on December 12, 2007 at 12:24 AM. Reason : l]

12/12/2007 12:22:29 AM

Administrator sounds like someone needed a title and they handed one to them - and sounds lower on the totem pole.... How many times have you wanted something done and asked for an administrator?
Manager sounds better.... Change the first word & try it

Office AdministratorParts Administrator
But at the end of the day - it's just a title. They're thrown around so much these days that they often don't even sound good when they matter.

12/12/2007 1:01:59 AM

sales associate has to be like the most common job title ever

12/12/2007 1:04:13 AM

either that or customer service associate

12/12/2007 3:18:35 AM

Administrators are higher than managers. Managers run a specific group of people and are the ones you talk to if shit aint getting done. Administrators typically run a portion of the company or the whole thing (finances, HR, VP, Pres, CEO, etc). They are in charge of more people/money/etc, have higher responsibility, pay, etc.

12/12/2007 6:47:16 AM

SYSTEM KING.

12/12/2007 8:18:19 AM

^ftw

12/12/2007 8:34:31 AM

Quote :

"Administrator sounds like someone needed a title and they handed one to them - and sounds lower on the totem pole."

I agree with regards to 95% of business, but in the IT industry a System Administrator is reigns supreme.

SYSTEM KING FTW!

12/12/2007 9:54:04 AM

Administrating Manager

12/12/2007 10:17:47 AM

Administrating.

I like that.

Too bad nobody would notice and assume Administrative Manager.

12/12/2007 10:19:34 AM

System Conquerer

12/12/2007 10:22:09 AM

Administrator to the Regional Manager

12/12/2007 10:37:03 AM

i'd love to know how "tech people" answered in this thread versus "non tech people" cause i mean really im in IT and id never consider 'Manager' as part of my title...either Administrator or Supervisor

12/12/2007 10:39:16 AM

Quote :

"manager sounds like somebody who talks a lot but doesn't actually do anything administrator sounds like somebody who gets shit done"

Agreed. Granted, I am a tech person myself, but when I hear sysadmin, I think of someone who runs servers and handles the backend/infrastructure. At least in my experience that title isn't uses for random IT grunts. It just sounds better. Manager does have the "managing people" connotation to it, which is nice if that's what you're after. But I'm going to guess you aren't.

12/12/2007 10:45:43 AM