tOSU and Georgia? thats hard to believe

does Vtech move up?

what you thinking?

pending the Missouri loss of course(im hoping they do to screw the BCS)

[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 11:04 PM. Reason : r]

12/1/2007 10:59:33 PM

Hawaii vs. Hawaii since they are the only team who has figured out you shouldnt lose a game.

12/1/2007 11:01:55 PM

i hope there is no nat. champ game this year

12/1/2007 11:02:01 PM

For the BCS sake I hope Georgia or Kansas doesn't make the title game, or VT does not get in over LSU, or anything else that would just not make sense.

[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 11:03 PM. Reason : grrrr]

12/1/2007 11:02:43 PM

8 team playoff instead of taking a month off

12/1/2007 11:02:54 PM

Every year the BCS selection proves that it is a terrible system.

12/1/2007 11:03:16 PM

it will be interesting to see if hawaii gets any consideration...I think they should personally, especially over UGA

12/1/2007 11:03:18 PM

osu already took a month off

12/1/2007 11:03:38 PM

i will straight up not watch the mnc if hawaii is in it.

12/1/2007 11:04:14 PM

If we are gonna go on records and only include BCS conferences then I guess it should be OSU vs. Kansas

12/1/2007 11:06:59 PM

LSU v VT

[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 11:08 PM. Reason : ]

12/1/2007 11:08:26 PM

obviously tOSU is in you would think...which sucks, i hate that team...they have no real standouts and are boring to watch and will probably get blown out again.

12/1/2007 11:11:06 PM

It's funny 3 of the top 5 teams aren't even playing.

12/1/2007 11:12:16 PM

might as well just draw 2 teams from a hat from the top 8, that would be comedy

12/1/2007 11:15:28 PM

NC State

12/1/2007 11:16:32 PM

if hawaii beats wash like 110-3, id say they can get in the NC game, but srsly guys, srsly

12/1/2007 11:17:05 PM

you kno the more i think about it, id love to see Georgia in it and win it just to piss everyone off and make the BCS look like the joke it is.

and i actually like georgia(considering going there for school)

so who knows

12/1/2007 11:17:50 PM

should be LSU vs USC

conference champs from the two toughest conferences

12/1/2007 11:18:06 PM

georgia or kansas shouldnt go. I think LSU ends up going and mizzouri ends up getting Hawaii in their bcs bowl (fiesta mebbe?) which should be an awesome game.

[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 11:20 PM. Reason : georgia is so overrated year after year]

12/1/2007 11:19:32 PM

whoops

[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 11:20 PM. Reason : whoops]

12/1/2007 11:20:22 PM

dude, do any of the players today read TWW besides you?

and i thought Oklahoma went to fiesta? i dunno could be wrong

12/1/2007 11:20:29 PM

^^^^
playing notre dame really hurt their computer rankings

[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 11:21 PM. Reason : ]

12/1/2007 11:20:47 PM

LSU , Ohio State I would not mind at all.

If freakin Georgia gets it I'll be pissed. they're just not that good

12/1/2007 11:21:49 PM

Just thinking about this shit gives me a headache.

12/1/2007 11:21:51 PM

o yea good point. i guess i got excited about mizzou vs hawaii possibly

no one else is on tww. 90% of them are my coworkers. Next time I'll have 1st pick and you'll be on the winning team again

12/1/2007 11:21:52 PM

haha thank youuuuuu...i didnt wanna say anything, but you already know haha

it was wayyyy lopsided, but its ok..thanks tho for that i appreciate it.

12/1/2007 11:22:34 PM

Quote :

"might as well just draw 2 teams from a hat from the top 8, that would be comedy"

best suggestion yet. NO team this year has stood out as number 1 or 2 in the country. Week after week, the BCS and the pollsters have looked like fools because their top picks keep losing.

Up until this year the #1 and #2 team had lost on the same day just TWICE IN HISTORY. This year its about to happen for the third time. The system is a joke and has lost all credibility in my mind.

12/1/2007 11:22:50 PM

Kansas can't go. Georgia can't go. LSU holds the tie breaker over fellow two loss Va Tech. Hence, LSU - ohio thtate.

12/1/2007 11:22:55 PM

alright if im gonna be serious in this thread, how could lsu not be in this game, almost everyone of their games have been great to watch, and thrilling to the end. i dont like lsu or osu, but that would prob be a good game

12/1/2007 11:23:36 PM

could big 12 have 3 bcs teams? that would bump hawaii out of a bcs bowl all togethere

12/1/2007 11:25:24 PM

Hawaii is guaranteed if they finish in the top 12. a win tonight guarantees that possibility. also no conference can have more than 2 teams in BCS games

12/1/2007 11:26:13 PM

lol, missouri is gonna get the shaft then.. YEA! WE MAKE IT TO THE BIG 12 CHAMP GAME, LOSE, THEN GET NO BCS GAME...

12/1/2007 11:27:19 PM

missowned

[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 11:28 PM. Reason : :]

12/1/2007 11:27:32 PM

yea i mean we drafted the teams up too. The key is I dont try to dominate my teammates by insisting to be qb every time etc. its gonna only get better as im getting healthier. we should really start blowing them out with you and then me and ivan(big asian guy) are getting healthy.

12/1/2007 11:27:41 PM

kansas should get left out even with only 1 loss

^ what the fuck are yall talking about?

[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 11:29 PM. Reason : ]

12/1/2007 11:28:20 PM

The conference winners who deserve it the most are (in order):
LSU
USC
OU
VT
OSU
WVA

12/1/2007 11:31:25 PM

i'm coming around to a conference winners playoff.

and i hate the idea of a playoff. but this is just ridiculous.

12/1/2007 11:32:15 PM

^^ our weekly flag football game

12/1/2007 11:32:26 PM

a LSU/USC rose bowl would be the real national championship

12/1/2007 11:34:11 PM

I think it's safe to go back to calling it a Mythical National Championship again. The BCS was hanging on by a thread, but this is the final nail in it's coffin.

12/1/2007 11:34:13 PM

I think this list has every team you could arguably make a case for, even if your case is only cause the team is from your part of the country. Remember, we are talking about partisan voters here that will be deciding who to put in the title game.

In no particular order:

Ohio State - Big Ten Champions (11-1)
Georgia (10-2)
Louisiana State - Southeastern Champions (11-2)
Virginia Tech - Atlantic Coast Champions (11-2)
Southern California - Pacific Ten Champions (10-2)
Oklahoma - Big Twelve Champions (11-2)
Kansas (11-1)

Hawaii - Western Athletic Champions (12-0 if they win tonight)

I'm putting Hawaii on this list solely cause they're undefeated and no other team wants to play in the national title game apparently.

Ohio State lost home to Illinois.
Georgia lost home to South Carolina and away to Tennessee.
Louisiana State lost away to Kentucky and home to Arkansas.
Virginia Tech lost away to Louisiana State and home to Boston College.
Southern California lost home to Stanford and away to Oregon.
Oklahoma lost away to Colorado and away to Texas Tech.
Kansas lost to Missouri on neutral field.

12/1/2007 11:37:40 PM

bigger question:

should conference championship games count towards season totals?

we're seeing how playing an extra game is really fucking some teams (Mizz) and allowing squatters (tOSU) to succeed.

^ and the thing about the list is that you can make a case for each team on it. the BCS was supposed to fix that. so how can you not as the NCAA (even tho its supposedly about protecting athletes) regulate what the fuck is going on in each conference.

ah this is making my head hurt.

but in a good way.

and how can you hate on playoffs?

[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 11:44 PM. Reason : seriously i'm dizzy]

12/1/2007 11:39:06 PM

^ The Big 12 is more than welcome to drop their title game. Nothing requires them to play it, just like a conference basketball tournament.

12/1/2007 11:40:19 PM

yeah, but some years it works the other way where a conference championship game winner leapfrogs number 2 into the title game.

12/1/2007 11:40:28 PM

The BCS should at least put a weight on teams that win their conference

12/1/2007 11:40:40 PM

Conference Championship Games:

12/1/2007 11:42:20 PM

im a dumbass, read it as OSU

[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 11:50 PM. Reason : too late]

12/1/2007 11:47:35 PM

uhm...USC is in the pac-10

12/1/2007 11:49:29 PM

Quote :

"^ and the thing about the list is that you can make a case for each team on it. the BCS was supposed to fix that. so how can you not as the NCAA (even tho its supposedly about protecting athletes) regulate what the fuck is going on in each conference."

Well, football is special cause the NCAA does not have as much say in regulating football. The reason for this is that the schools do not allow them cause football is such a cash cow. If the NCAA even tried, I'd seriously see the schools seceding and former their own intercollegiate association. The six conferences will fight a playoff tooth and nail and don't want to ever allow it. So I think we're going to go back to what one poster said and the days of the Mythical National Championship.

12/1/2007 11:55:59 PM

so who's going to get the heisman now? I'm guessing mcfadden.

12/1/2007 11:57:49 PM