Wins the FCS semi-finals 55-35, after two close playoff games. App almost blew a 35-14 2nd quarter lead, allowing them to come back to 35-35 in the 3rd, before 3 unanswered touchdowns.

i watched the 2nd half of this game - seriously, Armanti Edwards is a beast. A 6'0", 175lb beast.
Edwards alone:
Passing - 14/16, 192 yards, 12.0 average, 3 TDs, 0 int
Rushing - 313 yards, 10.1 average, 4 TDs

Too bad o'brien didn't take my advice after they won last year.....

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"Tom O'Brien's first order of business: drive up to Boone and get Armanti Edwards down here for next season 12/15/2006"

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[Edited on December 8, 2007 at 12:03 AM. Reason : ,]

12/7/2007 11:42:00 PM

There's no way he is 6 feet tall or weighs 175.

I'm gonna have to say 5'10 160.

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 11:43 PM. Reason : But yes, I watched it, and yes, it was awesome. Wish I could have been there.]

12/7/2007 11:43:04 PM

still fucking SUBDIVISION

12/7/2007 11:45:16 PM

actually, i thought i heard the announcer say 5'9" or 5'10", and that's what he looks like, but his ESPN page says 6'0"

^ yes, it is. but that doesn't change the fact that Armanti Edwards can fucking play ball

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 11:46 PM. Reason : .]

12/7/2007 11:46:01 PM

they still lost to Wofford and Georgia Southern

and Edwards could NEVER make it in the NFL

12/7/2007 11:50:24 PM

Yeah well he is LISTED at 6'

Just like every player at VT runs sub 4.5 40's.

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 11:52 PM. Reason : ^ He could make it as kick returner and perhaps WR]

12/7/2007 11:51:17 PM

There are so many stupid posts in that other thread.

Edwards>Evans, Beck, Burke combined

^^Edwards was hurt those two games, so why are you hating on him?


[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 11:59 PM. Reason : ^^I wouldn't be so sure of that]

[Edited on December 8, 2007 at 12:08 AM. Reason : ...]

12/7/2007 11:58:54 PM

In Chuck's words "Non-qualifier". Did you listen to this blue gum talk after the game? this kid wouldn't last a full season in real college football. Will never be a Pro QB.


The only miracle that came out of 1AA football is Tony Romo

12/8/2007 1:27:02 AM

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"Edwards was hurt those two games, so why are you hating on him?"

exactly. he was out for a month and in those 4 games, app went 2-2. with him they are undefeated and have a win vs. michigan on their schedule. he obviously could not be an nfl qb, but he is basically the mike vick of FCS football.

12/8/2007 1:27:51 AM

I'm almost positive he played in the loss to Ga Southern.

He may not have been 100%, but he was in there.

However, he wasn't the problem, they still scored a lot, but their defense has been pretty weak this year.

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"In Chuck's words "Non-qualifier". Did you listen to this blue gum talk after the game?"

Yeah I heard him. He sounded a lot like Steve McNair, LT, or hell, even Jake Delhomme.

[Edited on December 8, 2007 at 1:35 AM. Reason : ]

12/8/2007 1:31:41 AM

Is there any defense in FCS? not from what I saw tonight. App was fortunate of some awful decisions by Richmond

12/8/2007 1:36:07 AM

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"still fucking SUBDIVISION "

Hate to tell you that DIV 1 is split into two SUBDIVISIONS

FBS - Football Bowl Subdivision

and

FCS - Football Championship Subdivision

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"Subdivisions in Division I are important only in football. In all other sports, all Division I conferences are considered equivalent. The subdivisions were recently given names to reflect the differing levels of football play in them. Additionally, some sports, most notably ice hockey and men's volleyball, have completely different conference structures that operate outside of the normal NCAA sports conference structure. The method by which the NCAA determines whether a school is Bowl or Championship subdivision is first by attendance numbers and then by scholarships. Although scholarships are only one of several methods for the NCAA to determine if they have some form of financial backing for the program they do look at attendance as an additional key consideration."

Wikipedia.org


I guess calling it a SUBDIVISION makes us feel better about not playing foorball any more this season.

12/8/2007 1:48:12 AM

^ we're talking about football... i don't understand what you were going for there.

12/8/2007 1:58:52 AM

i was just correcting an ignorant post.

Also, I do believe

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"he was out for a month and in those 4 games, app went 2-2."

Is wrong. App was 4-0 without their starter. The two games App did lose were Wofford (Edwards was taken out in 3rd Quarter) and Ga Southern in which he played all but 2 series.

It's great that they are in the finals again. More power to them.

12/8/2007 2:03:18 AM

He would be better than Evans, until he took a few hits from ACC linebackers that are just as fast as him and 80 lbs heavier. I guess he might have helped us beat UCF. Does anyone think this guy would actually stay healthy through the season in I-A football?


PS: Sign of the game goes to the row of people phonetically spelling out "APP-UH-LATCH-UN". How many consecutive I-AA National Championships do they need to win for the pompous Midwestern newspeople and football analysts to pronounce it right?

[Edited on December 8, 2007 at 5:51 AM. Reason : .]

12/8/2007 5:47:25 AM

Yeah, I was at this game. The guy is so fun to watch in person, but you can really see just how tiny he is. He missed 3 games after they played Michigan, not because of any specific injury, he was just completely beat to hell. And according to the fans, he really wasn't back to himself until a couple games ago. One game getting tackled by 300 pounders and he was put out of commission for practically an entire regular season. He's an awesome player, but just too small to really do anything else beyond this level. Kick returner is about the only thing I could ever see him doing in the next level, and that's only if he has a death wish.

12/8/2007 8:20:36 AM

I'd love to have him QB my flag football team.

12/8/2007 9:58:59 AM

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" I guess calling it a SUBDIVISION makes us feel better about not playing foorball any more this season."

wtf is foorball and where were you going with this?

12/8/2007 10:28:38 AM

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"and Edwards could NEVER make it in the NFL"

We don't need Edwards to make it to the NFL.

We would only need him to make it at NC State, which is well well short of the NFL.

12/8/2007 11:10:29 AM

we would just put edwards under center and have him do five-step drops followed by an incomplete five-yard out on every single play

12/8/2007 11:29:19 AM

You make it sound like Evans is a lot bigger than Edwards, but somehow Evans can take hits from ACC LBs. And I'm willing to bet Evans isn't the 6'2, 190 listed on State's page. But he's only a sophomore, he will get bigger and better. He won't be tall enough to be an NFL QB...maybe like a Randel El, let him get some WR reverse passes in there too. But probably not that either, he'll make it to the CFL with all his other App alumni.

12/8/2007 11:34:56 AM

Evans doesn't run much, and when he does it's not like Edwards does.

Every time Edwards gets tackled, theres a huge tangle of arms and legs, and you hope he hasn't broken anything. Not only does he not slide, he doesn't even brace for impacts, he just keeps running.

12/8/2007 11:51:27 AM

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"We don't need Edwards to make it to the NFL. We would only need him to make it at NC State, which is well well short of the NFL. "

Once again non-qualifier and TWW would be calling for Evans/Glennon/Beck/Burke after this kid saw two snaps for us

If anyone had a defense in FCS it would be obvious that he can't throw the ball his only throws were to wide open receivers. When LBs and DEs took bad angles at him allowing him to escape the pocket and run down field. Im sure Earl can draw up some defenses to stop him or his Earl just an offensive guy?

12/8/2007 1:06:42 PM

DalCowboys you make me embarrassed to be a Cowboys fan.

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"The only miracle that came out of 1AA football is Tony Romo"

Ever hear of that guy that Romo throws to named T.O.? Yeah UT-Chatanooga Southern Conference. Or that other guy named Jerry Rice? Please.

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"Once again non-qualifier"

Wrong again. Vanderbuilt and Wake Forest both offered Armanti schollys but he decide to go to ASU where he could start right away. Those are two of the top schools in this country. Quit hating on him. He would start for NCSU and everyone on here should know it or they are just too damn blinded by homerism and can't realize that Armanti is something special.

12/8/2007 2:23:47 PM

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"Vanderbuilt "

12/8/2007 2:37:28 PM

Pam Ward calling the other semifinal. Middle school gym teacher vibe FTL.

[Edited on December 8, 2007 at 4:06 PM. Reason : .]

12/8/2007 4:05:30 PM

Randy Moss went to Marshall before they went 1-A..I'm sure he knew they were going there tho. Also, your Cowboy Dexter Coakley was an App alum

12/8/2007 4:32:52 PM

dude got stopped short of the first and carried like 2 richmond guys over the line

12/8/2007 4:36:46 PM

yeah - maybe Edwards could stand up against 1-A d-backs, and maybe he wouldn't.
but he was consistently rolling over and dragging with him 2 and 3 guys that were much bigger than him. And he was getting smashed around all over the place and popping back up like nothing hit him.

12/8/2007 4:53:57 PM

Dixon is about the same size as Edwards... he seemed to hold up fine. He would be the Heisman if it weren't for a knee injury that had nothing to do w/ size.

There are a lot of ignorant posts on this thread, everyone who plays football isn't 6'4 230. You don't have to be a monster in size to take a hit.

12/8/2007 5:25:22 PM

pat white isn't exactly huge

12/8/2007 5:32:42 PM

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"He would start for NCSU"

That's not saying very much but I agree.

12/8/2007 5:36:44 PM

If this was English Premier League, App State would have traded spots with Duke a long time ago

12/8/2007 5:39:12 PM

great input.

12/8/2007 5:55:22 PM

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"pat white isn't exactly huge"

He isn't small either though... he's 6'2" 190...

He gets beat to hell plenty. Though there is NO way that LBs in the ACC are as fast as Edwards or White.. You can't tell me there are many LBs in college that run 4.3-4.4 40s... no way.

[Edited on December 8, 2007 at 6:38 PM. Reason : x]

12/8/2007 6:38:09 PM

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"yeah - maybe Edwards could stand up against 1-A d-backs, and maybe he wouldn't. but he was consistently rolling over and dragging with him 2 and 3 guys that were much bigger than him. And he was getting smashed around all over the place and popping back up like nothing hit him."

Same size /= same hit

Just because fat 1-AA linemen may weigh as much as ours doesn't mean they hit as hard. Remember momentum is mass x velocity. I know I'm generalizing, but this tends to be much of the difference between BCS-level 1-A and 1-AA football. 1-AA schools can usually find guys that are just as big, or just as fast, but not both.

All we know for sure is Armanti Edwards shreds 1-AA defenses, and he was beat to hell in the one game he has played against 1-A competition. The goal is not to have a Steve McNair.

12/8/2007 6:41:13 PM

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12/8/2007 7:01:53 PM

rag on armanti edwards and app state all you want, but let's face it, they'd have beat us this year. the wolfpack defense would never have caught that skinny little fucker.

12/8/2007 8:46:11 PM

^Perhaps, but he would have been injured for the next few weeks.

12/8/2007 8:51:57 PM

have any of you guys noticed how crazy App State fans are? Tickets to the National Champion ship game cost $20 but they're selling on ebay for $300 a pair. Tickets went on sale after the Semifinal game for Season ticket holders, Yosef club members(donors) and students. They sold out by lunch on Sat. I was talking to one guy who bought some tickets from the Chattanooga website two months ago. They sell the tickets to locals throughout the season so if two distant schools go to the championship they would still have some turnout.

12/9/2007 8:58:07 PM

lol. funny thing is, come a few years ago, no one cared at all.

I was IN boone for their homecoming game my sophomore year i think it was. (we had a show the night before near boone) and i remember kids waking up that morning and walking to get tickets at the gate because it wasnt sold out and they knew the stadium wasnt even going to fill up.

[Edited on December 9, 2007 at 9:01 PM. Reason : ]

12/9/2007 9:00:54 PM

Armanti is a good QB. quit hating. seriously. We just need something to bitch about.

12/9/2007 9:44:00 PM

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"have any of you guys noticed how crazy App State fans are? Tickets to the National Champion ship game cost $20 but they're selling on ebay for $300 a pair. Tickets went on sale after the Semifinal game for Season ticket holders"

you do realize this is a National Championship game, right? Oh yeah - you wrote it yourself. Sure, maybe it's the "D-1AA FCS subdivision small school National Championship" or whatever, but it's still a Championship. Not to mention, it's their 3rd in a row. If kids want to get jacked up and spend the money to get tickets and drive the 4 hours to get there, what the hell is it to you?

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"funny thing is, come a few years ago, no one cared at all."

LOL OMG THAT IS FUNNY.
wait, is it? so... you're saying that App is basically like every other school in the country with a once mediocre football team who was vaulted into the national spotlight after winning 2 subdivision national championships then knocking off one of the perennial best D-1 schools? Would you prefer the students just sit at home in their dorm rooms and not care because 5 years ago they weren't that great? Oh yeah - i guess you'll call them "band wagon fans", apparently the worst insult that can be hurled at a college sports fan. But here at NC State, we certainly don't have any of "those people." We sell out our football and basketball arenas every game, and we all stay to the very end of each game, because we are true fans.

12/9/2007 11:29:30 PM

no. see all you did was really prove my point. im not arguing anything different than what you yourself just said! for starters, i didnt say anything about our fan base. but that was my point, lots of places are like that/us.

But the way I read his post made it sound like 'omg they have such a rabid, awesome fan base.' When really, they are just like every other school (worse actually..the percentage they filled their seats up before the past few years was atrocious), so his post about their 'crazy' fans was pointless.

12/9/2007 11:34:55 PM

oh, yeah - i guess your post does make sense in response to Clevelander's. i thought it was just generally more hating on App

12/9/2007 11:40:49 PM

ASU is like any other school, they support the good teams.

They cannot however call their fanbase good because outside of football, they don't support anything. They finished 2nd in the Southern Conference in basketball and the Holmes Center is always about half full with a good team. I mean they won a school record 25 games last year.

But Ill be supporting them all the way. GO APPS.

12/9/2007 11:55:11 PM

^ they might have gone overboard with the Holmes Center, especially for a school that size made up of their demographics. I'm not sure what demographics are good at filling up basketball arenas, but i doubt it overlaps too much with hippies and teachers.

12/9/2007 11:59:48 PM

almost all of the people I know who went to App were UNC basketball fans

12/10/2007 12:03:22 AM

Wasn't there some talk about APP moving up to D-1 sometime in the near future??

12/10/2007 12:05:03 AM

i believe that i read that they don't have the road access necessary, or something. but i'm no expert.

12/10/2007 12:07:20 AM