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" ACC Player of the Year Matt Ryan, QB Boston College He threw too many interceptions (18) and struggled in a few of the biggest games of the year, but he provided college football with one of the most thrilling three minutes in the road win over Virginia Tech and led his Eagles to the ACC title game. When he was needed down the stretch, he came through, even if his team lost three of its final five games, with two 400-yard games and three 300 yarders. If nothing else, he was the signature national player for the ACC throughout the season. Defensive Player of the Year - Jamie Silva, FS Boston College Virginia DE Chris Long is the ACC's most talented defensive player, and might be the league's best player, but Silva had the best season of any defender finishing sixth in the league in tackles while coming up with six interceptions. He was all over the place in the loss to Florida State wit 18 tackles, 15 solo, with a sack. 2007 CollegeFootballNews.com All-ACC Team Offense QB - Matt Ryan, Sr. BC RB - Tashard Choice, Sr. Ga Tech RB - James Davis, Jr. Clemson WR - Aaron Kelly, Jr. Clemson WR - Kenneth Moore, Sr. WF TE - Ryan Purvis, Jr. BC OL - Branden Albert, Jr. Virginia OL - Andrew Crummey, Sr. Mary. OL - Steve Justice, Sr. WF OL - Chris McDuffie, Sr. Clemson OL - Barry Richardson, Sr. Clem. PK - Gary Cismesia, Sr. FSU KR - Kevin Marion, Sr. WF Defense DL - Chris Ellis, Sr. VT DL - Chris Long, Sr. Virginia DL – Hilee Taylor, Sr. UNC DL - Vance Walker, Jr. GT LB - Xavier Adibi, Sr. VT LB - Erin Henderson, Jr. Mary. LB - Durrell Mapp, Sr. UNC DB - Brandon Flowers, Jr. VT DB - Kenny Phillips, Jr. Miami DB - Jamie Silva, Sr. BC DB – Alphonso Smith, Jr. WF P - Durant Brooks, Sr. Ga Tech PR - Eddie Royal, Sr. VT Top 30 players regardless of position Based on the season the player had 1. QB Matt Ryan, Sr. BC 2. FS Jamie Silva, Sr. BC 3. DE Chris Long, Sr. Virginia 4. QB Cullen Harper, Jr. Clemson 5. OT Barry Richardson, Sr. Clem. 6. CB Alphonso Smith, Jr. WF 7. RB Tashard Choice, Sr. GT 8. LB Erin Henderson, Jr. Mary. 9. LB Xavier Adibi, Sr. VT 10. DE Chris Ellis, Sr. VT 11. OG Branden Albert, Jr. Virginia 12. C Steve Justice, Sr. WF 13. LB Durell Mapp, Sr. UNC 14. LB Geno Hayes, Jr. FSU 15. SS Kenny Phillips, Jr. Miami 16. WR Aaron Kelly, Jr. Clemson 17. P Durant Brooks, Sr. GT 18. WR Kenneth Moore, Sr. WF 19. DT Vance Walker, Soph. GT 20. P Ryan Weigand, Sr. Virginia 21. LB Philip Wheeler, Sr. GT 22. RB James Davis, Jr. Clemson 23. RB Andre Callender, Sr. BC 24. DT Dre Moore, Sr. Maryland 25. OG Chris McDuffie, Sr. Clemson 26. OG Andrew Crummey, Sr. Mary. 27. CB Brandon Flowers, Jr. VT 28. WR Hakeem Nicks, Soph. UNC 29. CB Victor Harris, Jr. VT 30. OT Andrew Gardner, Jr. GT Top Quarterbacks 1. Matt Ryan, BC 2. Cullen Harper, Clemson 3. Riley Skinner, WF 4. Thaddeus Lewis, Duke 5. Sean Glennon, VT Top Running Backs 1. Tashard Choice, GT 2. James Davis, Clemson 3. Andre Callender, BC 4. Josh Adams, WF 5. Keon Lattimore, Mary. Top Wide Receivers 1. Aaron Kelly, Clemson 2. Kenneth Moore, WF 3. Hakeem Nicks, UNC 4. Eron Riley, Duke, 5. Tyler Grisham, Clemson Top Offensive Linemen 1. Barry Richardson, Clem. 2. Branden Albert, Virginia 3. Steve Justice, WF 4. Chris McDuffie, Clemson 5. Andrew Crummey, Mary. Top Defensive Linemen 1. Chris Long, Virginia 2. Chris Ellis, VT 3. Hilee Taylor, UNC 4. Vance Walker, GT 5. Dre Moore, Maryland Top Linebackers 1. Erin Henderson, Maryland 2. Xavier Adibi, VT 3. Durrell Mapp, UNC 4. Geno Hayes, FSU 5. Philip Wheeler, GT Top Defensive Backs 1. Jamie Silva, BC 2. Alphonso Smith, WF 3. Kelly Phillips, Miami 4. Brandon Flowers, VT 5. Victor Harris, VT Top Kickers 1. P Durant Brooks, GT 2. P Ryan Weigand, Virginia 3. PK Gary Cismesia, FSU 4. PK Travis Bell, GT 5. PK Jud Dunlevy, VT"

notice anything missing?


ouch

12/10/2007 11:45:38 PM

snubbed

Only school without a rep.

[Edited on December 10, 2007 at 11:54 PM. Reason : a]

12/10/2007 11:52:44 PM

evans for heisman

12/10/2007 11:53:25 PM

I mean jesus christ, not one single mention ANYWHERE... what a bunch of shitheads

12/10/2007 11:56:52 PM

Duke QB #4??? WTF?? What kind of stats does he have?

12/10/2007 11:59:10 PM

actually pretty good, especially for Duke

2400 yards
21 TDs
10 Ints

12/11/2007 12:04:11 AM

evans got snubbed bad.

12/11/2007 12:05:19 AM

Hauschka deserves SOMETHING, surely.

12/11/2007 12:06:26 AM

1. that's not the AP all-acc team, it's the colegefootballnews.com all-acc team

2. the AP team includes dajuan morgan and darrell blackman

3. jaybee is still a shitty troll

12/11/2007 12:11:17 AM

^ wow you are a dumb son of a bitch...


1. maybe the letters "CFN" in the fucking title might clue people in to the fact that it wasnt the AP poll

3. how is this trolling at all??

12/11/2007 12:12:33 AM

WOLFPACK REPRESENT

12/11/2007 12:15:54 AM

Quote :

"Hauschka deserves SOMETHING, surely."

Someone convince me that I am not being just a big homer when I say he was the best K in the ACC this year. I dare you.

12/11/2007 12:34:19 AM

I dont know... Brooks was pretty damn good

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"This season, Brooks ranks first in the ACC?and fourth nationally in punting (45.5). He has punted 61 times for 2,778 yards and only 19 of his 61 punts were returned. Nearly half (30 of 61) of those punts were downed inside the 20 yard line. He booted a career-high 77-yarder against North Carolina and the average starting position for opponents following a Brooks punt has been the 18-yard line."

if you mean kicker as in a person who kicks... if you mean place kicker then I dont know

[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 12:37 AM. Reason : d]

12/11/2007 12:36:28 AM

^^ yeah i agree, i thought he did a very good job.

[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 12:38 AM. Reason : ^ what we talking about? we talking about punters?]

12/11/2007 12:36:48 AM

it looks about right except for the omittance of our place kicker

[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 1:55 AM. Reason : /]

12/11/2007 1:55:15 AM

ouch

12/11/2007 2:22:54 AM

LOL but I thought we had so much talent

12/11/2007 3:53:10 AM

We will have to wait a couple years for TOB to recruit us out of this shithole

12/11/2007 3:54:10 AM

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"FIELD GOALS Team Cl G FG FGA Pct. FG/G -------------------------------------------------------- 1. Gary Cismesia....... FS SR 12 27 33 81.8 2.25 2. Travis Bell......... GT SR 12 23 28 82.1 1.92 3. Mark Buchholz....... CU JR 12 20 32 62.5 1.67 4. Jud Dunlevy......... VT SR 13 21 24 87.5 1.62 5. Connor Barth........ NC SR 12 19 22 86.4 1.58 6. Sam Swank........... WF JR 12 17 20 85.0 1.42 Obi Egekeze......... MD JR 12 17 22 77.3 1.42 8. Steven Hauschka..... ST SR 12 16 18 88.9 1.33 9. Chris Gould......... VA SR 12 15 19 78.9 1.25 10.Francesco Zampogna.. UM SR 10 9 15 60.0 0.90 PAT KICKING PCT Team Cl G Made Att Pct. --------------------------------------------------- 1. Mark Buchholz....... CU JR 12 46 46 100.0 Sam Swank........... WF JR 12 41 41 100.0 Obi Egekeze......... MD JR 12 34 34 100.0 Travis Bell......... GT SR 12 33 33 100.0 Steven Hauschka..... ST SR 12 25 25 100.0 6. Gary Cismesia....... FS SR 12 24 25 96.0 7. Francesco Zampogna.. UM SR 10 23 24 95.8 8. Jud Dunlevy......... VT SR 13 42 44 95.5 9. Chris Gould......... VA SR 12 32 34 94.1 10.Steve Aponavicius... BC JR 13 43 47 91.5 SCORING (KICK) Team Cl G PATs FGs Pts Pts/G ------------------------------------------------------------ 1. Mark Buchholz....... CU JR 12 46-46 20-32 106 8.8 2. Gary Cismesia....... FS SR 12 24-25 27-33 105 8.8 3. Travis Bell......... GT SR 12 33-33 23-28 102 8.5 4. Jud Dunlevy......... VT SR 13 42-44 21-24 105 8.1 5. Sam Swank........... WF JR 12 41-41 17-20 92 7.7 6. Obi Egekeze......... MD JR 12 34-34 17-22 85 7.1 7. Connor Barth........ NC SR 12 21-23 19-22 78 6.5 8. Chris Gould......... VA SR 12 32-34 15-19 77 6.4 9. Steven Hauschka..... ST SR 12 25-25 16-18 73 6.1 10.Steve Aponavicius... BC JR 13 43-47 11-17 76 5.8 FIELD GOAL PCT Team Cl G FG FGA Long Pct. ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Steven Hauschka..... ST SR 12 16 18 49 88.9 2. Jud Dunlevy......... VT SR 13 21 24 52 87.5 3. Connor Barth........ NC SR 12 19 22 51 86.4 4. Sam Swank........... WF JR 12 17 20 52 85.0 5. Travis Bell......... GT SR 12 23 28 51 82.1 6. Gary Cismesia....... FS SR 12 27 33 60 81.8 7. Chris Gould......... VA SR 12 15 19 51 78.9 8. Obi Egekeze......... MD JR 12 17 22 46 77.3 9. Steve Aponavicius... BC JR 13 11 17 45 64.7 10.Mark Buchholz....... CU JR 12 20 32 52 62.5 SCORING Team Cl G TD XPT FG 2XP Pts Pts/G ------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Mark Buchholz....... CU JR 12 0 46 20 0 106 8.8 2. Gary Cismesia....... FS SR 12 0 24 27 0 105 8.8 3. Travis Bell......... GT SR 12 0 33 23 0 102 8.5 4. Jud Dunlevy......... VT SR 13 0 42 21 0 105 8.1 5. Sam Swank........... WF JR 12 0 41 17 0 92 7.7 6. Keon Lattimore...... MD SR 11 13 0 0 0 78 7.1 7. Obi Egekeze......... MD JR 12 0 34 17 0 85 7.1 8. Connor Barth........ NC SR 12 0 21 19 0 78 6.5 9. Chris Gould......... VA SR 12 0 32 15 0 77 6.4 10.Andre Callender..... BC SR 13 13 0 0 2 80 6.2 "

12/11/2007 7:43:53 AM

everyone always just loves the random fat foreign place kicker that bowden finds every year.

percentage should be the most important thing, not his fault he wasn't asked to kick more.

12/11/2007 8:37:54 AM

^ hahaha... ok, just say that Huesyamama made it... it would still be really really sad that State had just 1 player on the list, and none in the top 30

12/11/2007 6:47:50 PM

Damn! I just kept scrolling and scrolling. The anticipation and buildup was killing me. Not one f'ing player. Ouch indeed!

12/11/2007 7:07:30 PM

Wow. That kinda stings.

I'm actually not going to argue that Hauschka should have been on the all-ACC team. Our inability to score made his overall scoring fairly low. It does seem wrong that he wasn't listed in the top 5 kickers, considering he has the best freaking FG percentage in the league...sigh.

12/11/2007 7:22:56 PM

Yeah, this list is obviously bull shit. I mean we sucked, but we had some players, namely Dajaun Morgan and Hauschka, more than worthy of making the list. Morgan had 90+ tackles from his safety position, in addition to three key picks. And the Hauschka thing has already been hashed out. Fuck the makers of this list. They don't know shit.

12/11/2007 7:35:45 PM

well, the bad part is that assuming they dont just randomly hate NC State (which I am sure some of you idiots actually believe), then it shows how the rest of the country views State's season/talent/ability...

12/11/2007 7:38:23 PM

you mean everyone else realized we sucked too?

what fucking insight you have

12/11/2007 7:40:19 PM

sigh, you fucking dumb son of a bitch... obviously I didnt mean State should have had 1/2 the list, but not a SINGLE player in the top 30?? thats fucking sad

12/11/2007 7:44:59 PM

^ I don't think the makers of the list randomly hate NC State. The maker of the thread however....

12/11/2007 7:46:49 PM

how is making this thread hating State?


"hey guys, just ignore how bad we are, it will go away"

12/11/2007 8:05:15 PM

i think we all know the football team sucked ass

you seem to relish it though

12/11/2007 8:19:32 PM

if you are an actual fan of football then you should have interest in who the top players in your conference are...

12/11/2007 8:20:55 PM

yeah, we're all interested

but every one of your posts in this thread mentions that state isn't represented on this meaningless list

WE KNOW MAN

12/11/2007 8:22:03 PM

^^^^ It was a joke, but I still think you're a troll who likes to ruffle feathers. Personally I don't care. It's not like anything said on this message board makes a difference anyways. If State sucks, they're still going to suck. There's nothing I can say or do that's going to change that. Kind of like me and everyone else thinking you're a troll.

[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 8:23 PM. Reason : adsf]

12/11/2007 8:22:55 PM

^^ every one huh? i see


^ thats a dumb outlook... i dont affect the NFL so its pointless to talk about/discuss it

[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 8:23 PM. Reason : d]

12/11/2007 8:22:57 PM

you're almost as bad as treetwista

it's like you don't even read the posts before you respond

12/11/2007 8:24:42 PM

Quote :

"but every one of your posts in this thread mentions that state isn't represented on this meaningless list"

how am I "misreading" that?

12/11/2007 8:25:25 PM

i was referring to your response to the other guy

and this

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"obviously I didnt mean State should have had 1/2 the list, but not a SINGLE player in the top 30?? thats fucking sad"

i don't know where that came from

[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 8:28 PM. Reason : ]

12/11/2007 8:27:09 PM

ok, so

Quote :

"It's not like anything said on this message board makes a difference anyways. If State sucks, they're still going to suck. There's nothing I can say or do that's going to change that"

and I said, if its dumb to talk about things you cant affect, or change, then its "dumb" to talk about the NFL, or any sports for that matter



^ and that came from you thinking that it was obvious that State didnt have a single player on that list, I disagree... not one single player in the top 30 in the conference? that is sad

[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 8:30 PM. Reason : d]

12/11/2007 8:29:10 PM

^ Ernie's right. You need to learn how to read. Nowhere did I say I wasn't going to talk about State sports. I just said I don't care what trolls like you say because things you and I say to each other on a message board don't make a bit of difference on the playing field.

12/11/2007 8:29:15 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

12/11/2007 8:30:01 PM

^^ of course it doesnt make a difference, but thats not the reason people talk about sports in the first place, so that makes no sense

12/11/2007 8:31:38 PM

Quote :

"and that came from you thinking that it was obvious that State didnt have a single player on that list, I disagree... not one single player in the top 30 in the conference? that is sad"

i never said that

at all

you said everyone in the country must think state sucks

i said

no shit

12/11/2007 8:31:54 PM

ok, let me spell it out, everyone thinks State REALLY sucks, more so than most State fans (as evidenced by the actual non-trolling responses to this thread)... jesus christ dude, talk about trolling

[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 8:33 PM. Reason : d]

12/11/2007 8:32:55 PM

^^^ How does that not make any sense, you dumbass? I said I would still talk about State sports and obviously if I'm talking about them, I care what's going on with them. But some arbitrary list a bunch of uninformed fuckers like yourself made up isn't worth my time arguing about; however, calling you out for being a troll, and a stupid one at that, is worth my time.

[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 8:40 PM. Reason : asdf]

12/11/2007 8:39:49 PM

so people that make a living watching and writing about college sports are less informed than you? I see


something tells me if the list was loaded with State players they all of a sudden wouldnt be so uninformed...


[Edited on December 11, 2007 at 8:44 PM. Reason : d]

12/11/2007 8:41:02 PM

You and I are watching and writing about sports right now, but I don't think myself informed enough to be the last word on sports in general. Especially since I've never played them at that level. Hence, the "uninformed" qualifier in one of my posts above. The same can be said for the vast majority of sports writers. And you're doing everything but disproving the fact that you're a troll in this thread.

12/11/2007 8:45:04 PM

Quote :

"so people that make a living watching and writing about college sports"

12/11/2007 8:45:50 PM

^ The hacks writing for the N&O or for any hometown Newspaper "make a living" writing about sports, and they are almost as dumb as you. A lot of people "make livings" at careers they have no business having. Troll on.

12/11/2007 8:51:57 PM

ahh, I see, so the ones you disagree with or that make state look bad dont know what they are talking about but the others do, I see now.






god damn homer

12/11/2007 8:53:42 PM

^ If they make State look unduly bad, then sure, I'll take issue with it. People who are writing that NC State basketball is in trouble, I have no issue with because it's true. I put a lot more stock in something being said by someone who's played or coached in that sport before, and who is not some writer who had all day to sit around and think of how he was going to stir up controversy/boost ratings next. After all, I thought you took issue with there being no State players on the list as well. Does that make you a homer too?

12/11/2007 9:00:49 PM