http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=13054

Guns, swords, next up arrows and butter knives.

12/13/2007 1:17:21 PM

see, if they didnt ban guns people could fight back

oh well

oh and this thread reminded me that i need to buy a gun

12/13/2007 1:34:34 PM

god man these brits are pussyfying themselves...

12/13/2007 1:38:13 PM

there is no need to own a sword. So whats the big deal?

12/13/2007 1:51:35 PM

LARPers everywhere are rolling to see if they should panic.

12/13/2007 1:57:37 PM

lol

12/13/2007 1:58:24 PM

What about slingshots?

12/13/2007 2:01:08 PM

looks like it's just samurai swords and not the jolly ol' english knight swords

pip pip

12/13/2007 2:09:04 PM

It's actually not "Swords".. these are words that begin with "S"

12/13/2007 2:09:50 PM

This makes me sad.

On the other hand, they seem to only be banning crappy swords. So you'll have to have wealth and taste to murder folks with swords in the future.

12/13/2007 2:31:16 PM

what about sword canes?

12/13/2007 3:29:02 PM

did you guys see the huge fucking exemptions they had in this law?

12/13/2007 4:20:03 PM

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"They are cheap..and in the wrong hands -lethal"

Wouldn't that apply to a lot of things?

12/13/2007 7:55:32 PM

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"ripe for the plucking"

12/13/2007 8:27:44 PM

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"LARPers everywhere are rolling to see if they should panic."

got damn, man






[Edited on December 13, 2007 at 11:55 PM. Reason : ]

12/13/2007 11:55:43 PM

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"there is no need to own a sword. So whats the big deal?"

Golovko

Tell me you weren't being serious. If you were, that's one of the stupidest comments I've ever seen.

12/14/2007 12:07:00 AM

i mean, it really sucks for that woman whose son was killed... i feel for her. its a heartbreaking story.

but on the other hand... a total of six (6) people have died from these things in a 5-year period. i think in statistics... they'd call that "insignificant". I havent checked the figures, but i'd be willing to bet $$$ that more people die from baseball bats or bricks.

still.... its hard to care about a ban on "imitation samurai swords". no other swords are banned, and "real" samurai swords are exempt from the ban.

if Britain wants to make a law saying "take your cheap ass wannabe gangsta swords and GTFO" ... thats their business.

ill leave the vein-popping outrage for people like b4k4, burro, hook, and the rest of the limbaugh crowd.

12/14/2007 12:15:48 AM

^ Yeah, and when "they" finally come and take away something that you hold dear, maybe the left-wing loons at the Daily Kos will help you out--and maybe not.

12/14/2007 12:28:08 AM

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"Tell me you weren't being serious. If you were, that's one of the stupidest comments I've ever seen."

and you need to own a sword for what exactly? spreading butter on toast perhaps?

12/14/2007 12:29:58 AM

The same reason I need to own a gun, or a sledgehammer, or a hunting knife, or a series of progressively finer, sharper woodworking chisels. Because I feel like fucking having them whether I use them or not. Shit, the number of things you actually need to have can be counted on a one hand, that doesn't mean we should go ahead and institute bans on everything else.

Fortunately this is an issue for the British to deal with, not me.

12/14/2007 12:49:53 AM

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"However collectors of genuine Japanese swords and those used by martial arts enthusiasts would be exempt from the ban."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071213/od_nm/swords_dc

It's called a huge fucking loophole.

12/14/2007 12:51:56 AM

^^^ Jesus H. Christ!

Just a few legitimate reasons to own swords:

1. For collectors

2. As art pieces

3. As family heirlooms

4. As a part of military regalia

5. For recreational purposes (Yes, people actually do this.)

6. As props for actors

7. For martial artists

8. As weapons (Would you rather them have guns?)

And what constitutes a "sword" [i] exactly? Is a machete a sword? What about a long knife? All can be deadly--including your butter knife, not-so-smart guy.

Who should be deciding what private citizens need in this manner? There may be a number of things in your home you value greatly that I do not think you need. Away with them--after all, why do you need them?

God damn, your position here is asinine--purposely so, I think.

[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 12:54 AM. Reason : .]

12/14/2007 12:52:27 AM

oh, I guess you didn't bother to read about the exemptions. Troll

12/14/2007 12:53:25 AM

^^

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"oh, I guess you didn't bother to read about the exemptions. Troll"

i will bite to one bit of your pathetic attempt at trolling though.

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"5. For recreational purposes (Yes, people actually do this.)"

LARPers use foam swords. Fencers use special types of swords with a round ball on the tip. Ninjas use stars*

[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 12:55 AM. Reason : i kid.]

12/14/2007 12:54:15 AM

^^ Was I addressing you? No? So STFU.

^ So you have no retort. That's what I thought.

You two comrades and others can go down to Central Processing and surrender your rights if you like, but they'll have to take mine.

[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 12:56 AM. Reason : .]

12/14/2007 12:54:54 AM

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"when "they" finally come and take away something that you hold dear, maybe the left-wing loons at the Daily Kos will help you out--and maybe not."

i was going to try and make a clever spoof on the "pry it from my cold dead fingers" shtick, and so i'm trying real hard to think of something that i care about which could conceivably get banned

...

and I really just can't think of --- oh, wait.


Yellow #5

you know those fuckers are gonna try and ban that shit on me real soon

and goddamn if i wont be ready to fight.

12/14/2007 12:55:08 AM

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"^ Was I addressing you? No? So STFU."

uh yeah?

12/14/2007 12:56:11 AM

^^ Caffeine? Salt? And if you say it can't happen, you're just being stupid.

^^^^ Renaissance fairs have sword fighting all the time--and that's just one example.

[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 1:02 AM. Reason : .]

12/14/2007 12:58:19 AM

salt is essential to life.

caffeine is essential to the GNP



sorry if i wont play your Chicken Little Sky is Falling game.

12/14/2007 1:01:03 AM

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"^^^^ Renaissance fairs have sword fighting all the time--and that's just one example."

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Tell me you weren't being serious. If you were, that's one of the stupidest comments I've ever seen.

12/14/2007 1:04:22 AM

^^
Britons told to cut salt intake

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3650578.stm

WADA rules out caffeine ban

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"The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) has decided to leave caffeine tablets off its list of banned substances. WADA's executive committee meets in Canada next week but has already decided to leave caffeine on its monitoring list [emphasis added]."

http://www.abc.net.au/sport/content/200509/s1461825.htm

Salt: The Forgotten Killer

http://www.cspinet.org/salt/salt_factsheet.pdf

Consumer Group Praises Pepsi's Disclosure of Caffeine Content
CSPI Urges Coke and Others to Follow Suit

http://www.cspinet.org/new/200702201.html

These things are already happening! It's just a matter of time.

Why are some of you acting like buffoons about this? Many of you are so ill-informed that it's disturbing.

12/14/2007 1:14:17 AM

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"Renaissance fairs have sword fighting all the time--and that's just one example"

I believe the proper spelling is Renaissance FAIRE









[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 1:17 AM. Reason : ]

12/14/2007 1:17:32 AM

^ I had to dumb it down for T-Dub. I figured some of the know-it-alls here wouldn't recognize Middle English and they would think I meant "fairy."

12/14/2007 1:23:08 AM

^translation: you're an idiot and really thought it was fair and are now back peddling.

12/14/2007 2:06:51 AM

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wait for it








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12/14/2007 2:11:39 AM

^^ No, it's actually just as I posted. So if there's any idiocy here, it's on your part.

12/14/2007 2:41:51 AM

I pray to god everyday that TWW is still operating and I still post on it when im 40.

12/14/2007 8:29:19 AM

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"^^ No, it's actually just as I posted. So if there's any idiocy here, it's on your part."

uh huh...i'm sure thats exactly what you meant to say. No fooling us.

12/14/2007 10:19:50 AM

^^

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"everyday"

12/14/2007 10:56:45 AM

It makes me feel dirty, but I'm in complete agreement with 1337 b4k4 and company. I don't have much respect for cheap Japanese-style swords, but they're an introduction into sword collecting for many people. Most folks can't afford quality Japanese swords. This ban sticks it to the lower classes.

However, don't think we're any better than the Brits. California's had that ridiculous ban on throwing stars for ages now. My dad got put on a suspicious persons list after I gave him some purely ornamental metal stars to take back to my friends in NC. I'd bought the things in San Fransisco. They didn't have sharp edges. They weren't weighted. They were about as dangerous as an empty coffee cup. Yet they still confiscated the stars and threatened to charge my dad with a felony.

Banning actual throwing stars is stupid enough. California actually bans anything that even looks remotely like a throwing star. And supposedly, people have gotten serious time because of the law:

http://www.seeingblack.com/2004/x121004/411_dec04.shtml

12/14/2007 12:30:07 PM

I like what the Economist said:

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"The few criminals who enjoy swordplay may simply change their preferences. The same websites that advertise “samurai swords” for sale often feature similar, but slightly smaller, “ninja swords”—which, with their straight blades, may be a good substitute. "

I suppose I'll simply upgrade from a katana to an English claymore then. Given that they define the ban as one on "curved, single edged" blades, i wonder if the ban applies to sabres too.

12/14/2007 2:02:16 PM

Yeah, there are plenty of cheap Western-style swords on the market, at least over here.

And decent machetes might as well be swords.

12/14/2007 2:10:18 PM

I'd be more afraid of someone coming after me with a machete than a claymore.

12/14/2007 2:50:30 PM

Eh, I wouldn't be. Especially if you limit the term to two-handed swords, as many do. Any two-handed blade will cause more severe damage.

Of course, larger blades can't be concealed easily, so you're not likely to be attacked by a person wielding one. Any hardware store can supply you with various deadly polearms, but this doesn't much matter. Murders typically use smaller weapons.

12/14/2007 4:19:35 PM

Clearly only outlaws will have swords now.

12/14/2007 4:24:06 PM

i roll a trebuchet around for my murders.

12/14/2007 4:26:09 PM

For example, check out these dangerous toys:

http://www.terratech.net/product.asp?specific=jqkncre0

People have been killed with hammers and axes. Perhaps those also deserve a tap from the ban wand.

12/14/2007 4:31:13 PM

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"Eh, I wouldn't be. Especially if you limit the term to two-handed swords, as many do. Any two-handed blade will cause more severe damage. "

That is true, but a two-handed sword (or any proper sword for that matter) requires a bit more skill and finesse to wield effectively than a simple machete. Still capable of generating fear, but I guess I'm of the opinion that a machete requires less knowledge to inflict the most harm with the least amount of training.

Like someone pointed out, why bother with exotic weapons like samurai swords when you can simply bludgeon someone to death with a baseball bat or run them down with a car for that matter.

12/14/2007 4:39:07 PM

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"People have been killed with hammers and axes. Perhaps those also deserve a tap from the ban wand."

wands are dangerous and have been known to produce magic. THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

12/14/2007 4:40:41 PM

YOU BETTER BAN MY HANDS BECAUSE I COULD STRANGLE JUST ABOUT ANYBODY

12/14/2007 4:45:08 PM