You can't make this shit up.
HR 847:

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"Whereas Christmas, a holiday of great significance to Americans and many other cultures and nationalities, is celebrated annually by Christians throughout the United States and the world; Whereas there are approximately 225,000,000 Christians in the United States, making Christianity the religion of over three-fourths of the American population; Whereas there are approximately 2,000,000,000 Christians throughout the world, making Christianity the largest religion in the world and the religion of about one-third of the world population; Whereas Christians identify themselves as those who believe in the salvation from sin offered to them through the sacrifice of their savior, Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and who, out of gratitude for the gift of salvation, commit themselves to living their lives in accordance with the teachings of the Holy Bible; Whereas Christians and Christianity have contributed greatly to the development of western civilization; Whereas the United States, being founded as a constitutional republic in the traditions of western civilization, finds much in its history that points observers back to its roots in Christianity; Whereas on December 25 of each calendar year, American Christians observe Christmas, the holiday celebrating the birth of their savior, Jesus Christ; Whereas for Christians, Christmas is celebrated as a recognition of God's redemption, mercy, and Grace; and Whereas many Christians and non-Christians throughout the United States and the rest of the world, celebrate Christmas as a time to serve others: Now, therefore be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives-- (1) recognizes the Christian faith as one of the great religions of the world; (2) expresses continued support for Christians in the United States and worldwide; (3) acknowledges the international religious and historical importance of Christmas and the Christian faith; (4) acknowledges and supports the role played by Christians and Christianity in the founding of the United States and in the formation of the western civilization; (5) rejects bigotry and persecution directed against Christians, both in the United States and worldwide; and (6) expresses its deepest respect to American Christians and Christians throughout the world. "

I guess someone forgot to tell them that Christmas is really a pagan holiday with no biblical basis.

12/13/2007 2:15:29 PM

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"(7)prevents American Christians from acting like they are a persecuted minority."

12/13/2007 2:17:43 PM

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""(7)prevents American Christians from acting like they are a persecuted minority.""

12/13/2007 2:20:54 PM

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"""(7)prevents American Christians from acting like they are a persecuted minority."""

12/13/2007 3:22:35 PM

real life onion article!

12/13/2007 3:27:17 PM

They did the same thing with Ramadan earlier. This means pretty much nothing.

Though, it is interesting that 18 Democrats voted for the same bill re: Ramadan, but against it (or just "present") for Christmas.

12/13/2007 3:35:04 PM

Haha you made a thread about a House Resolution.

12/13/2007 3:36:18 PM

It had more support from Democrats than Republicans...

Interesting.

12/13/2007 3:39:40 PM

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"Though, it is interesting that 18 Democrats voted for the same bill re: Ramadan, but against it (or just "present") for Christmas."

I found that provacatively interesting.

12/13/2007 4:14:58 PM

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Lock.

12/13/2007 5:17:46 PM

they have done this with other major religions....relax hippie boy

12/13/2007 5:48:57 PM

Whereas Nancy Pelosi and her feckless congress can't get anything worthwhile accomplished.

Whereas congress has managed get a lower approval score than a lame duck president.

Whereas the voters put in a democrat congress which promised to end the Iraq war..and has failed.

Whereas many members of congress are perverts and crooks.

Whereas congressmen waste valuable C-Span time with speeches to no one.

Resolved, that Congress--
(1) acknowledges its uselessness.
(2) recognizes its harm done to all taxpaying Americans.
(3) rejects any sense of responsibility for its actions.
(4) acknowledges the grip of lobbyists on their genitals.
(5) expresses its deepest regret for the $16,000 worth of flowers purchased by Nancy Pelosi using taxpayer money.
(6) reminds every American to vote for their favorite democrat or republican in the next election.

[Edited on December 13, 2007 at 7:09 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2007 7:09:23 PM

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"(7)prevents American Christians from acting like they are a persecuted minority."

That's a good one. I'm sure some Christians feel this way but truth be told if they actually were a minority then everyone would be bending over backward to appease them at every turn - you know, like you guys do with all the other religions.

12/13/2007 8:37:38 PM

i don't give a shit about other religions. I wish they would all disappear.

I do respect the right of people to have their own religion, even if I don't respect the religions themselves. I've acknowledged in other threads (the teddy bear thread) that I do think Islam, for example, is even more fucked up than Christianity, in the general way it is carried out today. I do feel people have the right to practice their religion within the context and laws of the supposedly secular societies they live in, but I do not think people should have extra rights that extend beyond the boundaries of the secular laws.

I think it's fucked up that Congress is voting on "the importance" of Christianity and Christmas to begin with. I think it's fucked up that we even have a bill in the US Congress which has the printed words "those who believe in the salvation from sin offered to them through the sacrifice of their savior, Jesus Christ, the Son of God". I think it's fucked up that 372 congress-people voted for the bill, and it's also fucked up that 9 voted against it. I think it is even more fucked up that the same fucking lying, hypocritical, PC, image-conscious, philandering, money grubbing, vote stealing congress-people who voted against the importance of Christianity, which is clearly a dominant influence in our society (for better or worse), voted in favor of recognizing the importance of other minority religions in this country, just so they wouldn't be branded as anti-religious bigots. I think this bill should have been passed 1-0. Steve King should have voted for his own bill, and the other 434 congress-people should have sat on their hands and refused to acknowledge these ridiculous symbolic bills.

12/13/2007 9:52:37 PM

^^^ Ha-ha!

12/13/2007 10:26:18 PM

^^ well, to be fair, if they didn't go out and make and discuss about symbolic bills, they might actually have to do some real work. you know...

12/13/2007 10:29:13 PM

happy to say, Seattle's US Congressman-for-Life, Jim McDermott, was one of the nine (9) congressmen to vote NO. the final vote was 372-9 and all 9 of the NO votes were from Democrats.



It's because we hate christmas, you see.

i mean, except for the EGG NOG, BITCH -- we're okay with that.

but other than that, we fuckin hate it.

12/14/2007 12:05:32 AM

I actually voted for Christmas before I voted against it ...

12/14/2007 4:23:21 AM

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"happy to say, Seattle's US Congressman-for-Life, Jim McDermott, was one of the nine (9) congressmen to vote NO. the final vote was 372-9 and all 9 of the NO votes were from Democrats. "

Are you ok with him voting for hinduism?

12/14/2007 6:36:48 AM

12/14/2007 2:33:22 PM

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"The veteran Seattle Democrat voted against a House resolution recognizing the importance of Christmas, but called it a protest against President Bush's veto of a children's health care bill. "While the Republicans are passing a resolution celebrating Christmas, the president was vetoing health care for children. There's a little bit of irony going on around here," McDermott said Thursday."

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/northwest/story/262134.html

12/14/2007 4:26:25 PM

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"While the Republicans are passing a resolution celebrating Christmas"

Thats a whole lot of crap....only like 9 people voted against that bill...to say that it was just republicans is nothing more that politics...and thats why these idiots have the lowest approval ratings i have ever seen

12/14/2007 4:29:35 PM

these idiots have the lowest approval ratings you've ever seen, because the people who primarily voted them in, Democrats, apparently prefer to hold their elected officials to some expectations and standards. If it wasn't for the 50% of Republicans who apparently don't give a shit at all what their Republican officials do in office and will unquestioningly give them "thumbs up", as long as they're Republican, I seriously believe the congress for the past 8 years would have similar approval ratings to today's.

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"Thats a whole lot of crap....only like 9 people voted against that bill..."

and yes, that is a whole lot of crap, because the vast majority of Democrats voted for that bill as well. However, it was a Republican who apparently took the time to write and introduce the bill

[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 4:44 PM. Reason : .]

12/14/2007 4:43:28 PM

They are law makers. They can't not make laws. Why do you think there are so many?

12/14/2007 9:51:43 PM

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"these idiots have the lowest approval ratings you've ever seen, because the people who primarily voted them in, Democrats, apparently prefer to hold their elected officials to some expectations and standards."

you mean like how they hold Ted Murtha accountable?
Or is it how the hold William Jefferson accountable?
What about Ted Kennedy?
or ...

12/15/2007 8:17:32 PM

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"because the people who primarily voted them in, Democrats, apparently prefer to hold their elected officials to some expectations and standards. "

Then why haven't they been voted out? I think we need to get a movement going in this country to get these people out of office. This whole low approval rating thing means shit. I mean look at bush, he's been running the lowest approval ratings and is arguably the most hated president since Nixon and he still got reelected.

This whole waiting until the next election cycle bit has got to go. If the people want bush impeached and congress won't do it, eject them all and elect new ones. They pass a law without reading it first? Fire them all. They waste tax payer money voting on shit like this? Get rid of them. And as a bonus, restrict them from ever working a job that interacts with the government ever again.

12/15/2007 8:44:01 PM

^ dude, really. wtf are you talking about?
you say, "enough with waiting until the next election cycle", but the way we should get rid of these people is "to vote them out". are you suggesting we take up pitchforks and storm the capital building?

12/15/2007 11:17:40 PM

I believe he's referring to the recall election process. And we saw how smoothly that went in California...

The problem isn't that "we have to wait until the election." The problem is that even then we don't fire these assholes. Namely because we're more worried about keeping "our team" in power and with who's bringing home the bacon...

12/15/2007 11:20:14 PM

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"these idiots have the lowest approval ratings you've ever seen, because the people who primarily voted them in, Democrats, apparently prefer to hold their elected officials to some expectations and standards."

Not so much. It's more or less because the moderates that let the Democrats into office would like to see some sort of production from elected officials. Think about it... if there were enough democrats to flip congress to a democratic majority, then why did it only happen so recently? Borderline/moderate voters, and even quite a few republicans, became tired of the bullshit that they were getting from a republican-dominated government, and voted democrat to try and get something good done. It hasn't happened, and thus approval ratings are way down.

12/15/2007 11:27:55 PM

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"I believe he's referring to the recall election process. And we saw how smoothly that went in California... The problem isn't that "we have to wait until the election." The problem is that even then we don't fire these assholes. Namely because we're more worried about keeping "our team" in power and with who's bringing home the bacon..."

well, if anyone wants to start a recall election process for any representatives or the president, i'm all for it. The problem then becomes, of course, who the hell is going to replace them.
and in 2006, it was shown that the country can fire those assholes in large numbers, but as we've seen, they were just replaced with other assholes.


to ^
yes, I generally agree with that analysis. However, I still think that taking moderates and independents out of the picture, you still have a larger number of true Democrats that are willing to voice displeasure with the Democratic congress than there were true Republicans who were willing to do the same for the Republican congress. It just baffles the mind that the 2000-2006 congress had as high approval ratings as they did. And while you can bet that nearly all Democrats were disapproving of them, and eventually most moderates were too, to maintain their ratings, probably 80-90% of Republicans were still approving of them.
With today's congress, though, if you count on all Republicans and moderates disapproving of them, you probably still need at least 40-50% Democrats disapproving of them also. Of course, I think that number should be even higher, but there will always be people on both sides that will approve or disapprove without merit.

12/15/2007 11:37:26 PM

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"and in 2006, it was shown that the country can fire those assholes in large numbers, but as we've seen, they were just replaced with other assholes."

But even then we didn't fire that many people. The incumbency rate for the last election was still on the order of 90% - and that was considered a "good" election. Practically the only way people seem to get swiftly voted out of office anymore is by actually say murdering somebody (and even then, it's no guarantee - read: Ted Kennedy), or getting caught having gay sex with interns / bathroom buddies. Hell, William Jefferson, the guy caught red-handed taking bribes by the FBI got re-elected.

12/15/2007 11:44:31 PM