Gozo All American 10337 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, I was taking this class online and the teacher suspected me of cheating. I assured him that the information was readily available on the textbook publisher's website but he wouldn't believe me. He told me he was going to drop me from the class. Now it's the end of the semester and he hasn't dropped me and this is going to kill my GPA because I didn't do any work since September. He dropped all of the homework grades but kept my test grades. If he dropped me at the last test I would have a 79 in the course, but now I have a 24. Is he required to retroactively give me a WP for this class? Remember, he never had enough proof to say I was cheating but he questioned my integrity and he told the dean he was going to have me removed from the course.
Quote : | " Acc 120 Chapter 1 Test Jul 18, 2006 Sep 2, 2007 12:11 AM 640 650 593.48 6.25% Acc 120 Chapter 2 Test Jul 18, 2006 Sep 2, 2007 2:57 PM 530 530 404.35 6.25% Acc 120 Chapter 3 Test Sep 12, 2006 Sep 15, 2007 5:47 PM 250 250 162.73 6.25% Acc 120 Chapter 4 Test Sep 12, 2006 Sep 15, 2007 6:04 PM 240 250 170.45 6.25% Acc 120 Chapter 5 Test Sep 28, 2006 - 200 155.29 6.25% Acc 120 Chapter 6 Test Sep 28, 2006 - 340 196.25 6.25% Chapter 1 Homework Jan 6, 2007 Sep 17, 2007 8:55 AM 0 100 60.73 4.17% Chapter 2 Homework Jan 6, 2007 Sep 17, 2007 8:56 AM 0 100 58.8 4.17% Chapter 3 Homework Jan 6, 2007 Sep 17, 2007 8:56 AM 0 100 45.37 4.17% Chapter 4 Homework Jan 6, 2007 Sep 17, 2007 8:56 AM 0 100 68.95 4.17% " |
The chart reads: Assignment, Date, Time, My Score, Max Score, Avg Score, Weight. This is the point at which I believe he should've dropped me with an unweighted grade of about 79.12/13/2007 11:52:22 PM |
Gozo All American 10337 Posts user info edit post |
Just for emphasis - this is an accounting class - of course my equations and ledgers are going to look like the ones in the book - the book comes with a CD full of templates for you to use 12/13/2007 11:54:23 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
talk to your advisor 12/14/2007 12:22:58 AM |
Gozo All American 10337 Posts user info edit post |
I'll try talking to her, but hopefully I won't be going to school there next semester. I moved away since I started taking classes at the beginning of the semester.
The teacher emailed me back and said he wasn't changing anything.
[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 8:45 AM. Reason : grrr] 12/14/2007 8:44:47 AM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
He would have had to prove that I was cheating. It probably would have been better if you had fought it early on because now you're most likely screwed. 12/14/2007 9:25:55 AM |
Psykorage All American 1460 Posts user info edit post |
If he told you he was going to drop you from the course via email then I would use that. This all sounds very fucked up to me, whether you cheated or not. I would talk to a department head and if that didn't work I would go straight to the dean. 12/14/2007 9:41:03 AM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
An instructor can't just drop you from a class. They don't have that kind of control over their class enrollment. I'm sure it can be done if they fill out enough paperwork, but you would have to be actively involved in the process at some point.
Quote : | "He would have had to prove that I was cheating." |
Not really. If the instructor files the paperwork with student conduct, you are literally guilty until proven innocent. A student needs to present "iron clad" evidence that they did not cheat, otherwise they accept just the word of the instructor without any proof needed.
Back to the point, this sounds like a communication issue with the instructor and you. I think he wanted you to drop, but that's a decision that you have to make. Nevertheless, you stopped doing your work, but you were still enrolled in the class. If you are enrolled in the class, the onus is on you to complete all class assignments.
I would talk to your adviser and your department head and try to set up some sort of meeting between you, your adviser, your department head, and your instructor to clarify exactly what happened and what you available options are.
I know you don't want to here this, but unless formally accused of academic misconduct, you are, as a student, responsible for completing all class work. Additionally, your enrollment in any course in primarily under your direct control. You cannot be added or removed from a course without either your knowledge or consent except under very exceptional circumstances. As a result, start planning on how you're going to handle the hit to your GPA.
[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 10:48 AM. Reason : can't type]12/14/2007 10:47:25 AM |
Psykorage All American 1460 Posts user info edit post |
The whole guilty until proven innocent comment is true, but if the professor clearly said he was removing you from his class I see that as all the evidence you need to have that class/grade removed from your schedule. A prof. does have the capability of removing a student from a class with the proper paperwork being filed so there is no reason not to believe him/her. With that being said the prof. obviously lied about the actions that they were going to take against you so their accusations should be viewed as false as well. I wouldn't let this shit hit my GPA, but thats just me.
This is also how people find a hooded stranger waiting next to their car late one night holding a tire iron. 12/14/2007 11:11:20 AM |
Chief All American 3402 Posts user info edit post |
Right now its your fault until you talk to the dean or someone higher than your teacher, cause for all they know right now, you're just another student who failed because you didn't drop your class on the deadline. They may have no idea that your teacher did what he did, unless you were there to actually witness him speaking to higher about it, or higher talked to you. He could've just threatened and not followed through. You'd best be prepared to defend yourself (to higher) when you go in i.e. with the printed equations from the cd, the book, your old hw's, etc. Raise hell but dont go overboard, you've got nothing to lose on this. 12/14/2007 12:31:45 PM |
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