I am leaning towards the 360 and if thats the case what is the best package to get?

12/14/2007 3:11:19 PM

the premium with hdmi is all you really need

12/14/2007 3:12:37 PM

premium packs a 20GB HDD? Isn't that a little slim?

12/14/2007 3:14:59 PM

Elite packs a 120gb hdd. Isn't 80gb a little 'slim'?

12/14/2007 3:17:51 PM

What are the advantages for the bigger hd?

12/14/2007 3:25:57 PM

honestly nothing yet. Unless you are big on downloading arcade games and original xbox titles. Or with the PS3 downloading PS1 games and their version of arcade. I don't so my hard drive is pretty much empty except for the rented hd movies I Get from the marketplace and saved games, downloaded game videos etc. out of the 120gb hdd I still have 100gb left.

From what I understand the really neat thing about the PS3 is that you can easily remove the internal hdd and replace it with any sata drive you want. Not sure on size restrictions though.

[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 3:33 PM. Reason : .]

12/14/2007 3:32:11 PM

360 w/ HDMI

12/14/2007 3:33:10 PM

store more stuff? (demos, movies etc)

that's about it really.

do you want a high def movie player? get the add-on or go for a ps3.

12/14/2007 3:33:21 PM

I think I will get the 20 gig then.

12/14/2007 3:57:47 PM

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"Elite packs a 120gb hdd. Isn't 80gb a little 'slim'?"

you know, not everything has to be a console war. I put that out there as a question, because I'm wondering if 20GB is enough for the kind of content that gets thrown up on Xbox Live.

and then you turn around and try to accuse everyone else of being a fanboy. You're completely incapable of discussing anything related to video games without turning into a babbling idiot.

My god you're sad.

[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 4:20 PM. Reason : f]

12/14/2007 4:16:05 PM

correction. You added the 'slim' part without any explanation. I added the reason behind different HDD sizes depending on what kind of user you are. Clearly the only idiot here is you.

Quote :

"honestly nothing yet. Unless you are big on downloading arcade games and original xbox titles. Or with the PS3 downloading PS1 games and their version of arcade. I don't so my hard drive is pretty much empty except for the rented hd movies I Get from the marketplace and saved games, downloaded game videos etc. out of the 120gb hdd I still have 100gb left. From what I understand the really neat thing about the PS3 is that you can easily remove the internal hdd and replace it with any sata drive you want. Not sure on size restrictions though"

[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 4:23 PM. Reason : L2READ]

12/14/2007 4:22:40 PM

ummm... no. The first reply suggested a premium. I was under the impression that the premium only came with 20GB, so I asked "is that enough".

You obviously took that as an insult to your precious console, and immediately stood up to defend it.

It's ok, man. Really. I'm just amazed at how deep in denial you are.

[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 4:29 PM. Reason : d]

12/14/2007 4:28:54 PM

"i care too much" - fanatik

all I have to do is post a response and you'll go ape shit again.

[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 4:37 PM. Reason : .]

12/14/2007 4:35:28 PM

don't fool yourself. I'm only killing time here.

12/14/2007 4:36:08 PM

I think its worth getting the bigger drive. I was surpised how much online content the XBox has. I was downloading a ton of game demos, online movies, etc. Its worth it to pay a bit more and have the space then to regret it. I 'think' that 1080p support isnt available in anything other than the elite. That was a factor in my purchase as well.

12/14/2007 4:50:09 PM

Quote :

"I 'think' that 1080p support isnt available in anything other than the elite"

1080p is standard on PS3.

12/14/2007 4:57:59 PM

360

/thread

12/14/2007 4:59:00 PM

^^^ you sure? I got an XBL update and have the 1080p option on my standard 360... I've never used it but it's there...

[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 4:59 PM. Reason : x]

12/14/2007 4:59:20 PM

I suppose I will go with the Premium, wish it was bundled without the games but oh well.

12/14/2007 5:00:56 PM

Quote :

"I 'think' that 1080p support isnt available in anything other than the elite. "

This isn't true at all.

12/14/2007 5:02:50 PM

plus why do you even need more than 12 GB when you can just stream all your DivX movies from your computer

12/14/2007 5:07:50 PM

How you get your ipod to play thru the 360?

12/14/2007 5:08:42 PM

i think you can just plug it into one of the USB ports in the 360

although i just stream all my music off a computer

12/14/2007 5:11:54 PM

yeah just plug it into the USB, it'll come up as an external drive.

but i just stream from the computer as well

12/14/2007 5:20:53 PM

1080p is standard on all xbox360s. Just like the PS3 if you purchase the entry level model you won't have the right cables to view HD. Both entry levels come with RCA and not component/hdmi

12/14/2007 6:06:31 PM

id like to note that 20gb is plenty for a lot of ppl. i use about 10gb at any given time. got a few demos, couple movies, and about 20 xbla games. i just delete old demos and trailers if i need space.

12/14/2007 6:12:15 PM

yeah it is, and you never need the storage for media because you just stream it through windows media player11 and you're golden!

Hard drive space isn't a big deal at all, not sure why people even care.

12/14/2007 6:43:56 PM

You can't get 1080p from component cables, has to be HDMI. Also the 360 only upscales to 1080p, so none of the software is actually native 1080p.

You probably won't tell a difference and there aren't many titles on the PS3 that are 1080p anyway. You should just think about what you want to do with the console and what games you want to play and base your decision on that.

12/14/2007 11:59:46 PM

Quote :

"How you get your ipod to play thru the 360?"

Why would you ever need or want to do that?

12/15/2007 12:07:08 AM

^ Srsly.

12/15/2007 12:28:50 AM

my 60 gig PS3 came with the not so good cables.... (the upper end out of the first offering)

well worth it to hit up monoprice for some hdmi goodness

12/15/2007 2:22:24 AM

Hook up your ipod to the USB port. I need to do that because I use a mac and can't stream music to 360 without paying $$ for the software.

[Edited on December 15, 2007 at 4:06 AM. Reason : .]

12/15/2007 4:06:38 AM

feel free to correct me if im wrong... but arent there very very few ps3 titles that actually are 1080p?
they need to get on that

12/15/2007 4:19:05 AM

Quote :

"Hook up your ipod to the USB port. I need to do that because I use a mac and can't stream music to 360 without paying $$ for the software"

Twonky Media FTW.

12/15/2007 10:51:57 AM

What type of TV do you have, skankinande?

TV resolution, console resolution, and game resolution are three entirely different aspects.

Quote :

"1080p is standard on all xbox360s."

I always read that 720p is standard, some at 480p and some at 1080i. Maybe the Elite has a 1080p standard, but the games are far from it, so all it is doing is upconverting, like \/ said.

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"You can't get 1080p from component cables, has to be HDMI. Also the 360 only upscales to 1080p, so none of the software is actually native 1080p."

Actually, component cables are capable of 1080p, but TVs cannot accept 1080p through component, only through HDMI and DVI.

List of Native 1080p XBox360 games (2 titles):
Street Home Court
Virtual Tennis 3

List of 1080p supported XBox360 games (35 titles):
All Pro Football 2K8
Armored Core 4
Battlefield 2 (Platinum Hits)
The Bigs
Bioshock
Bullet Witch
Call of Duty 3
Call of Juarez
Command & Conquer 3
Dead or Alive 4 (Platinum Hits)
Dance Dance Revolution Universe
Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer
Fight Night Round 3
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter
Harry Potter
Halo 3
Hour of Victory
Icon
Meet The Robinsons
Monster Madness Battle for Suburbia
NCAA 08 Football
NCAA 07 March Madness
Overlord
Pirates of the Carribean
Ratatouilio
Rayman Raving Rabbit
Saints Row
Shadowrun
Spiderman 3
Superman Returns
Surf’s Up
Tetris Evolution
Two Worlds
UEFA Championship Soccer
Vampire Rain

List of Native 1080p PS3 games (24 titles):
All Pro Football 2K7
Blast Factor
Calling All Cars
College Hoops 2K7
The Darkness
Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer
flOw
Full Auto 2 Battlines
Harry Potter
High Stakes on the Vegas Strip: Poker Edition
LocoRoco Cocoreccho!
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
MLB The Show
NBA ‘07
NBA 2K7
Ninja Gaiden
Pirates of the Carribean
Pixeljunk Racers
Piyotama
Street Home Court
Super Stardust HD
Transformers The Movie
Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection
Virtua Tennis 3

This is just what I've come across, so I may be wrong. I play my Gamecube via component to a Samsung DLP with Game Support. I have no lag and the color and details are amazing on just 480p(Max for GC). 720p and 1080p must be phenomenal if you have it hooked up correctly.

[Edited on December 15, 2007 at 11:01 AM. Reason : Get a TV with Game Support!]

12/15/2007 10:59:51 AM

the 360 outputs in all hd formats. To get 1080p u need hdmi or VGA.

12/15/2007 11:53:26 AM

I dont even have an HD tv yet so that is of no concern to me.

12/15/2007 12:45:16 PM

plan for the future

12/15/2007 12:57:49 PM

have the new 360s with the smaller cores come out?

12/15/2007 5:10:56 PM

Yeah, for quite a while now.

12/15/2007 7:57:11 PM

is it in all of them now? i thought it was only in the halo edition and some of the elites

12/15/2007 8:30:01 PM

Wii

12/15/2007 9:11:09 PM

Quote :

"is it in all of them now? i thought it was only in the halo edition and some of the elites"

Most all of the newer ones have them, yes. You can check lots to get an idea, but if you buy from a high volume retailer, chances are you'll be getting a Falcon.

12/15/2007 10:53:29 PM

XBOX360 >>>>>>>>> PS3

12/16/2007 12:34:42 AM

Quote :

"For anyone looking to purchase the new drastically more stable Xbox360's this Xmas Season....use this guide, and you'll get one of the newer Flacon 65nm Die and modified heatsink revisions. They are much better than some of the first couple of revisions. Then again, I have one from the first gen and it's fine so obviously YMMV but we all know the track record there. http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3152&p=3"

12/16/2007 1:15:14 AM

Another question, can you play online with the live silver or do you need the gold?

12/17/2007 9:31:42 AM

pretty sure you need gold

silver just lets you DL demos and shit if i remember correctly

12/17/2007 9:32:47 AM

get a ps3, wifi is built in, no need for a $100 wireless adapter, no need to spend more to be able to play hd dvds

12/18/2007 9:05:37 AM

get a 360 if you want to be sending it back with in the next year or so. my ups guy at the office constantly complains about how many systems he always has in his truck. he said once that it would be funny if someone tried to rob him b/c he had so many broken consoles in his truck...talking about the thieves getting away with a bunch of broke mess..lol

12/18/2007 9:17:13 AM

360 is onthe way I hope

12/18/2007 9:19:16 AM