who is running and why i should vote for them.

12/17/2007 9:34:46 AM

Go away.

12/17/2007 9:36:26 AM

ok.

12/17/2007 9:39:03 AM

I laughed a lot at this thread but I don't really know why.

Anyway, candidates, right...
well, there's a black man, an old hag, a fear-mongering war-hungry Yankee, and a libertarian. ...things were going great for each of them until they all ended up renting an apartment together! Hilarity ensues! *cue shitty sitcom music*

12/17/2007 10:24:28 AM

obama - earnestness, change, optimism, new ways of doing things, open-minded

hillary - incredibly intelligent, possibly socialist in disguise

edwards - sort of the same as obama, though i doubt he'd offer as much change and innovation as obama

giuliani - took one of the most dangerous cities and made it one of the safest, fiscally conservative and socially moderate, i actually like that combination

mccain - seems to truly care for america and what happens to it, very even-keeled, does not seem to be prone to knee-jerk responses

paul - supports the constitution, socially moderate though is very vocal against abortion and very supportive of a christian nation even though the founders intended otherwise, most honest politician i've ever seen

12/17/2007 10:30:43 AM

^Wow... that was so non-cynical, it almost gave me hope for American politics.

12/17/2007 10:38:13 AM

ive been looking into paul.
i like him.

i may just support a bumper sticker.

12/17/2007 10:44:03 AM

ok i'll give you my take

guilliani- he is one of those rarebreed repubs that actually doesnt mind abortion/gay rights...you would think that makes him a democrat, but in fact he is one of those "fiscal conservatives"...basically, he is a "wannabe conservative"(more like wannabe pres am i right???

mccain- he supported the illegal immigration bill back in the spring in which most on the right were not in favor of...put his campaign back a bit....he also ran out of money....he makes dumb jokes about the beach boys song "bomb iran"(bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb iran)...he is for the surge and what not

romney- this guy is a freaking mormon, and also has like 150million dollars...before this campaign it was probably like 250 million, but he is spending a ton of money to make himself look more respectable...he hired a company that hired illegals btw....also a huge flip flopper....like makes john kerry look good...wants a secure border(i hear all the repubs want that but he like emphasizes it or some shit...probably loves china(i heard the business type like him love china)

huckabee- this guy is one of the only like "regular republicans" running...and hes not even that regular...dude raised taxes by like 500 million dollars....also lets out a shitton of prisoners....11 of the 1000+ people he let out killed again...he also thinks the world is 6000 years old....hes also kinda a theocrat.....his redeeming quality is that he use to be fat as hell...and lost the weight...so i wish he could convince the lardasses in america to do the same

thompson- this guy has fallen so much from huckabees rise, that he has 0 chance to win...hes pretty much a typical conservative-(low taxes, prolife, for the war, illegal immigration...blah blah blah)...dude is fucking like a 40 year old trophy wife that seems like the vindictive hillary clinton type...i'd stick it in her butt though



only gonna discuss 3 dems cause there are only 3 that could win

edwards- dude talks about how there are 2 americas all the time....dude is a fucking phoney...he would say that shit while living in a big ass house and having a 1000 dollar hair cut...yeah right dude you are not fooling anyone you douche...he also made his money as an ambulence chaser....also, i worked for a hospital in 2004, and the manager said he use to have to deal with edwards and described him as "pond scum"

obama- i really want this guy to win

clinton- man do we really need to get another clinton....i mean sure the 90's were great...but i dont feel like having yet another polarizing figure in office...it would be like it is now, and nothing would get done...i think clinton is just too calculating(like a demon type thing) for me to vote for her...i mean i'd vote for her over a repub just cause its obvious this country really needs a democrat, but i dont want to...

12/17/2007 1:20:03 PM

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"obama- i really want this guy to win"

and seemingly against the public opinion, i think he is "electable"

12/17/2007 1:25:15 PM

yeah...i use to not think he was...but honestly people that wont vote for him cause hes half negro probably wouldnt vote democrat anyways


and the odds are so stacked against repubs this election year that i think he has a chance....now if the repubs could only nominate someone like the mormon...the .5negro could definitely beat him imo

12/17/2007 1:28:30 PM

Ron Paul - I'm really on the fence about Ron Paul. I think that his view of politics is great and that America would be a better place if there were more people like him, but I'm not sure if he's cut out to be president. His appeal seems to be entirely based on the appearance that he is the Fresca to the Cola War that is American politics.

Guilliani - I've heard him speak and he's an intelligent guy. While unprepared to be the big cheese, I think that he would be a great charismatic VP.

Romney - I'll just repeat what I've said several times: "I know a few mormons and they all seem like good people, but as far as I'm concerned, Mormonism is just above scientology on the religious totem pole and I have a hard time taking one seriously as a presidential candidate. Buying into the whole story really makes me question anyone's decision making."

McCain - Although he has fallen out of favor with a lot of people, I respect the hell out of the guy and would like to see him get the nomination.

Huckabee - I actually liked him a bit, but then I found out that he used to be a Baptist preacher.

Thompson - Seems alright, but it won't happen.

Edwards - I would slap him like a bitch if I ever had the chance.

Obama - Very articulate. I really don't see the appeal of the guy. I agree with the notion that he's just a rorschach test that people project their hopes onto, despite the fact that he has very little applicable experience.

Clinton - She's pretty much riding on the fact that she isn't Bush and that people, for the most part, had a good time in the 90's, coincidentally when her husband was president.

12/17/2007 2:34:54 PM

^obama has about as much experience as gwb did when he got elected

[Edited on December 17, 2007 at 4:29 PM. Reason : and they both used cocaine at some point in their lives]

12/17/2007 4:29:29 PM

i hate the experience argument. george washington had no experience that would have qualified him for president.

and as for huckabee, i didn't like him when he said he didn't believe in evolution. that's just plain stupid. it's not admirable in the least. and his notion that the united states makes a mistake as one nation is bullshit too.

12/17/2007 4:46:43 PM

^^^Fresca is a Coca-Cola product. So I guess that makes the Republicans Coke, and the Democrats get to be Pepsi.

Sweet, Pepsi is the best.

And I disagree with most of your summaries.

12/17/2007 8:39:46 PM

^^^ Governor of a large state gave him some executive experience. State legislature and half a term a US senator doesn't.

^^ Plenty of presidents have had no government experience but have had significant time with military leadership, which actually translates extremely well.

^ I wasn't trying to get anyone to agree with me. Just talking out of my ass as usual.

12/17/2007 9:17:47 PM

I was pretty sure that you were trying to get people to agree with you.

"Seems alright" is pretty persuasive stuff. You gotta watch yourself when you got rhetorical powers like that.

12/17/2007 11:12:07 PM

Bridget, shut the fuck up. This is a thread asking personal opinions of the candidates. If you want something like persuasive rhetoric, go watch an ad for a candidate.

[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 12:40 AM. Reason : ^^and thank you for the (military) experience. it's a big bonus.]

12/18/2007 12:39:21 AM

I'll try to tone it down a bit in the future.

12/18/2007 12:39:41 AM

^^I was joking.

12/18/2007 1:30:59 AM

obama - black and not a muslim(?)

hillary - bitch

edwards - my daddy worked in a mill

giuliani - 911 911 911 911. also, http://www.mathies.com/blog/giuliani_drag.jpg

mccain - ornery

paul - bwahahaha

kucinich - bwahahaha. also, http://roissy.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/preview.jpg

romney - please o please believe that mormons aren't fucked up

huckabee - god hates fags

biden - who?

Fred Thompson - dead by the time you finish reading this


[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 1:51 AM. Reason : .]

12/18/2007 1:48:00 AM

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"Guilliani - I've heard him speak and he's an intelligent guy. While unprepared to be the big cheese, I think that he would be a great charismatic VP."

i'd have to disagree, i think he's the most ready to be pres, and there is no way he'd be a VP to anyone


ron paul - appeals to the young & old fasioned conservatives
clinton - appeals to stupid and lazy people who want welfare and free medical care
obama - appeals to blacks, women, and democrats with no other choice
guliani - appeals to everyone

12/18/2007 2:06:37 AM

^^ok end thread. ^Oh well.

[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 2:08 AM. Reason : .]

12/18/2007 2:07:24 AM

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"guliani - appeals to everyone"

Except those members of the population that are traditionally considered "intelligent"... I have a hard time seeing how a Guliani presidency doesn't lead to a war with Iran.

12/18/2007 4:06:36 AM

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"Except those members of the population that are traditionally considered "intelligent""

12/18/2007 4:13:13 AM

I don't regard the that/who distinction as particularly important, and its proper usage doesn't really indicate anything to me about a person's intelligence.

12/18/2007 7:05:06 AM

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"i mean i'd vote for her over a repub just cause its obvious this country really needs a democrat, but i dont want to..."

I know what you mean man. I was the same way before I saw the candidates...

...

Now it's Obama or republican for me.

12/18/2007 7:19:56 AM

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"guliani - appeals to everyone"

hahahahahah

12/18/2007 7:46:22 AM

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"guliani - appeals to everyone"

guliani appealed to me on September 12, 2001. He spoke well, used appropriate rhetoric and seemed to be in control of what was happening.
since then, though, we have seen him do almost nothing except exploit his performance in those few days to propose extreme and hawkish policies

12/18/2007 8:48:34 AM

^i agree that he was looking good for a short while after sept. 11...but he has not done anything for me since then...he seems to be the typical politician...which i am sick of...he changes his position for politcal expedience and has done so over the last decade...

now im not a fan of calling someone a flip flopper (except when they are like hillary who changes poistions from day to day and debate to debate)...people have the right to change thier minds...but gulliani just puts out a vibe that i dont like...

12/18/2007 9:10:18 AM

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"^^I was joking."

No you weren't. You were trying to be clever, you uppity bitch.

12/18/2007 8:58:49 PM

if having hideous offspring is a requisite to being a good president (i.e. Chelsea Clinton), Huckabee might cut it:

12/19/2007 10:35:43 AM

Who's that kid in the back? Did she have a love-child with John Candy?

12/19/2007 11:12:04 AM

paul.....

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"very supportive of a christian nation even though the founders intended otherwise"

wat

he actually said very clearly in an interview i saw recently that he is a christian himself and politicians in office can be as religious as they want, but that he agreed with the founding fathers in that they were very wary of it ever becoming a "christian nation"...as in God directing our policy

12/19/2007 9:17:53 PM

maybe, but when you revert a lot of issues to the states, such as removing the department of education, then it's completely obvious that states such as north carolina, south carolina, kansas, etc will begin a move towards establishing a lot of religious principles/monuments/etc, which in effect is making a christian nation.

12/19/2007 11:40:18 PM

no amount of vertical stripes is going to warp space-time enough to make that family look skinny

[Edited on December 20, 2007 at 1:18 AM. Reason : .]

12/20/2007 1:18:18 AM

If Huckabee wins, I some how doubt the presidential fitness award will mean as much.

12/20/2007 2:31:09 AM

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" guilliani- he is one of those rarebreed repubs that actually doesnt mind abortion/gay rights..."

i thought he flip flopped and is now pro-life

12/20/2007 2:53:15 AM

Flip-Flopping is SOO 2004.

12/20/2007 2:56:23 AM

my mistake, he did not, i selectively read a news article.

but i still hate giuliani, more than any candidate. besides clinton. tie between clinton and giuliani.

12/20/2007 3:01:57 AM

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"If he did enter into talks with Iran, an American invasion of Iran to topple the current Islamic government would not be off the table, Giuliani said."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/19/giuliani.iran/index.html

GITT ER DUUN


Seriously Giuliani take off the fucking cowboy hat. Just what we need to go around playing nation building for another 8 years. Are you working hard to sound tough for your blue-collar F150 pickup driving voter base???

I don't care if AJ gives us the finger on national television. unless they make a direct threat to us I do not see why we would invade. we need to stop poking Iran with the stick we've been using since the 1950's.

12/20/2007 3:10:38 AM

^which is why the country needs to elect a democrat this election year

[Edited on December 20, 2007 at 3:48 AM. Reason : the nation building thing...all repubs are too hawkish]

[Edited on December 20, 2007 at 3:48 AM. Reason : repubs with an actual shot at winning at least]

12/20/2007 3:47:59 AM

it's sad that b.c of the shitty two party system a candidate advocating a more lassiez-faire economic policy which i support is packaged with a "lets go around waving our big stick at the rest of the world we don't like" and has a 50% chance of wanting to legislate morality (huckabee, romney).

While the more level headed foreign policy candidates on the democrat side wants to turn america into a giant economic nanny state providing every illegal, crack mom, and lazy trailor park trash with free health care, juicy welfare checks, unicorns and rainbows.

12/20/2007 10:57:29 AM

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"statefan24: i thought he flip flopped and is now pro-life"

You're thinking of Romney. Guiliani is, and always has been, pro-choice. (He's also a gun-grabber. Then again, he's from New York. Make of it what you will.)

12/20/2007 12:52:05 PM