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"Florida State Seminoles football got a Early Signing Day surprise in the worst way, as No. 1 overall prospect and longtime commit Travis Hunter has signed with the Deion Sanders-coached Jackson State."

12/15/2021 1:40:09 PM

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he's getting 1.2 mil+ from barstool NIL would Deon works with. this is the new bag of cash

12/15/2021 2:44:06 PM

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And people thought NIL meant that the rich would get richer. Cool to see a top guy go to a non-traditional team.

Along those lines, Quinn Ewers was originally a class of 2022 guy committed to Texas. Decommitted, reclassified and then committed to OSU and got some big NIL money. Now he’s transferring to Texas. Which is just kinda hilarious to me. And makes me wonder if the Jackson State player plans to collect his money, play a season and then move on. (Who could blame him if he does)

12/15/2021 2:55:49 PM

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"Dabo, on the transfer portal: "It's chaos right now. Tampering galore. Adults manipulating young men. Education is like the last thing now." Calls for the return of one-year sit for transfers, and get that year back upon graduation. "Keep the focus on graduation/education.""


What a turd

12/15/2021 3:02:25 PM

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""Purposefully, this was a smaller class. With that being said, it's the highest average ranking in school history based on individual player rankings...I guess you could say quality over quantity." -- Doeren"


Highlights of NC State’s 2022 recruiting class:

Michael Allen, 4* RB, Greenville, NC
Torren Wright, 4* LB, Kannapolis, NC
MJ Morris, 3* QB, Carrollton, GA
Brandon Cleveland, 3* DL, Tampa, FL
Jacarrius Peak, 3* OL, Valdosta, GA (Picked State over Lville on signing day)

(copied from https://twitter.com/TuffyTalkNow)

Recruiting isn't something I actively keep up with aside from signing day so I'm glad to see this many high croots. Still mad UNC is pulling 5* OL talen despite being utter trash this year

12/15/2021 3:15:49 PM

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" he's getting 1.2 mil+ from barstool NIL would Deon works with. this is the new bag of cash"


you got got by a parody account

12/15/2021 3:21:14 PM

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Also signed two little brothers in this class. DT Davin Vann and WR Micah Crowell's little brothers both play on the opposite side of the ball as their big brothers (C & DB).

Extremely small class mainly because of the free covid year. All those people coming back means less spots for freshmen.

12/15/2021 3:26:39 PM

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I hear UNC next season will be preseason #13......in the NFL

Too good for college rankings

12/15/2021 3:26:47 PM

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Seems like a good, solid class. It’s small but that’s because we don’t have extra scholarships. Because it’s smaller it might not rank all that highly. But the top end talent seems maybe roughly in line with other recent DD classes.

I would think this year’s success on the field might translate more to recruiting the 2023 class. Hopefully, anyways.

12/15/2021 6:44:08 PM

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2023 is still gonna be small, unless a bunch of people leave.

12/15/2021 7:46:31 PM

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Yeah, still probably gonna be a small class. I just meant that a good season usually won’t translate to recruiting success until the following year. We might be able to get some higher ranked guys in for visits and be in on some guys we wouldn’t otherwise be in on. Not saying it’ll be an elite class. Just that we might be able to go after a few bigger fish.

12/15/2021 7:54:56 PM

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Dave ripped the NCAA of their mismanagement of the super class, and how transfers and high school SR don't have anywhere to go due to limits being put back into place this year.

12/16/2021 7:36:55 AM

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Yup. Seems justified. NCAA decision to give them all an extra year without any relief on scholarship limits for the schools was short sighted for sure.

12/16/2021 8:23:18 AM

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For posterity:

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"On the NCAA going back to the 85 scholarship limit and on the challenge that presented:

I think the NCAA has completely failed us as coaches With our roster management. I'm sure
they thought it was a great idea during COVID to award everybody on the roster an extra year,
and I can see why that happened. Personally I feel like the model we had last year that allowed
our super seniors to not count in our 85 was the right model. To say that that's a one-year deal
but you awarded it to five years of players is not a good situation to be in as a football coach.
You're recruiting fewer players, which means the future of your program is not the way you want
it.

You can't develop the guys the way you normally do with 20 to 25 guys a year, which hurts the
high schools. The number of high schools that I went into where players just don't have
anywhere to go because of this rule, its sad. It's really sad. The second part of it is, the number
of guys that want to stay changes our ability to predict attrition. Like, how many seniors do you
have? 15. Ok, then you have 15 scholarships next year That's not how it is. So you're either
going to slow down and recruit fewer guys, or you're going to end up with almost too many and
maybe ask some kids to go. I don't think that's a good thing, either.

So I think the NCAA really screwed this one up--That's just my opinion. They probably don't care
what my opinion is. But I hope there's some relief at some point to help all these high school
kids that have nowhere to go. And it's not just them. They created a portal where all these guys
can go where they want and there's no scholarship space for anyone to take any of them. With
regard to us taking more players, it just depends on attrition If we have attrition then the portal
obviously stays open until August. If things happen between now and then and we can add, we
will. If it doesn't then we won't."


I think he's right to rip the NCAA for putting literally negative thought into the ramifications of what they did. I don't think there was any way they thought it could end any other way.

12/16/2021 8:27:09 AM

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Heard Mack brown say there are 800 players in the Xfer portal and only 13 have landed on teams.

major fuckups.

12/16/2021 2:35:06 PM

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I don't know where that 13 number came from but it's incredibly wrong.

12/16/2021 3:30:12 PM

Elwood
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well Mack is pretty old.

12/17/2021 8:25:46 AM

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Also, some guys are just now announcing that they’re entering the portal. So it’s not uncommon for their decisions to not be made.

But, there a lot of guys in the portal. And there may not be enough landing spots (at their desired level) especially with limited roster spots at a lotta schools.

12/17/2021 8:59:03 AM

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There are a literal shit ton of guys who have committed to new schools already. Hell, South Florida already has 11 guys transferring into their program. If 13 was the correct number that would mean only those guys, Spencer Rattler and Quinn Ewers had committed to new schools. Obviously that is not true.

12/17/2021 2:46:41 PM

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I actually think the 13 number is right.

It’s Mack’s word vs Justin’s word. Idk.

12/17/2021 3:19:55 PM

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Me: a literal George Washington who has never told a lie

Mack Brown: two time head coach of a cheating ass football team

12/17/2021 3:24:40 PM

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best thing about the transfer protocol for justin

12/17/2021 3:46:43 PM

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An update on RB commit Bennett Galloway. No idea what his status is in terms of his commitment or the team’s willingness to take him at this point. But the incident was with a 13 year old. He pleaded guilty. Not good!

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/college/article257481414.html

1/19/2022 6:15:14 PM

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Pretty safe bet to say he's never playing a down of football in a state uniform.

Honestly would be surprised if he could even get admitted to the university.

Also, fuck this piece of shit attorney
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"This is a nightmare for everybody,” May said. That included the victim, her family as well as Galloway and his family. “There are no winners.” May emphasized that the situation “could happen to most teenagers."

1/19/2022 7:09:52 PM

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Is this kid the first real player controversy Doeren has had, recruiting or otherwise? I can't think of anything else atm

1/20/2022 7:06:28 AM

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There’s been a few guys kicked off the team I seem to remember. Was it Sharach Thornton with the scooter incident? And Payton Wilson was arrested his freshmen year I think. I seem to remember a few freshmen back in 2017 or 2016 get kicked off the team prior to the year but don’t remember names or details. But any of that stuff definitely pales in comparison to the Galloway situation.

1/20/2022 7:58:53 AM

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Yeah Shadrach Thornton did have the scooter incident, but TOB recruited him (freshman in 2012), so I'm not sure I'd count it against Dave. You are right about Payton though, 2019 arrested for having a fake ID, underage drinking, and resisting arrest ... forgot about that one.

Looks like in 2017 Antoine Thompson and Kevince Brown were kicked off for sexual allegations and 3 others (Isaiah Moore, Erin Colins and Xavier Lyas) were suspended for a game. I don't remember ever hearing that one, though I'm not sure how I missed it.

1/20/2022 11:32:41 AM

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The Brown/Thompson incident is what I was thinking of but couldn’t recall details. I just remember their names from recruiting and then they were kicked off the team…I think before the season ever started.

But yeah over the course 9+ years, off the field incidents have been fairly limited.

1/20/2022 11:37:56 AM

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Didn't we also have to suspend a bunch of players one year for the first game after an airsoft or BB gun incident in a parking deck? Or was that during TOB time?

1/20/2022 12:13:19 PM

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2014
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/13/6969603/nc-state-bb-gun-players-suspended-louisville

1/20/2022 12:30:27 PM

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Nvm rwoody beat me to it

[Edited on January 20, 2022 at 12:32 PM. Reason : J]

1/20/2022 12:32:15 PM

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