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God
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According to the Census bureau, last year:

A. Women, ages 25 to 29, had 9% more Bachelor's Degrees than men of the same age
B. Women, ages 25 to 29, had 9% less Bachelor's Degrees than men of the same age
C. Women, ages 25 to 29, had roughly the same number of Bachelor's Degrees than men of the same age

Who needs to be the protected class now?

1/15/2008 11:13:26 AM

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C?

1/15/2008 11:16:36 AM

jocristian
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A

1/15/2008 11:19:31 AM

agentlion
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A
i head that college enrollment (and college applications in general) are shifting strongly towards females

1/15/2008 11:24:24 AM

Charybdisjim
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This is a good thing- it's why there are actually some women nuclear engineers for me to shamelessly hit on.

1/15/2008 11:32:41 AM

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Need the MRS degree to get married to a rich man.

See: Meredith.

1/15/2008 11:36:20 AM

agentlion
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just wondering aloud here..... what is the effect of Women-only schools on numbers like these?
There are a far greater number of women-only than men-only schools, as far as I know

1/15/2008 11:57:37 AM

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Yeah, it's part of the complex conspiracy formed to create situations where women would be more able to explore and express bisexuality. It's part of the pact of 1892 where a group of captains of industry and heads of government met to figure out ways in which they could, at least slightly, increase the probability that a man could have a threesome- the good kind without the extra penis.

1/15/2008 12:11:09 PM

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I think A.

1/15/2008 12:30:13 PM

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Quote :
"Who needs to be the protected class now?"


Upper-middle class, white males, like you. Of course.

1/15/2008 12:40:54 PM

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^^^
excellent

1/15/2008 12:41:59 PM

hooksaw
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This has been addressed for a number of years by some. It has gone largely unreported, however--there is certainly no sense of urgency coming from the media and academics.

The War Against Boys
How Misguided Feminism Is Harming Our Young Men
By CHRISTINA HOFF SOMMERS


http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/s/sommers-war.html

More later.

1/15/2008 3:27:05 PM

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Those stats by themselves are 100% meaningless.

You would have to compare them to job pay rates/experience or job acceptance rates or something else.

It's like looking at the number of black players in sports, and proclaiming that blacks have reached social equality.

1/15/2008 3:56:15 PM

agentlion
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^ God wasn't making any statement or commentary on those numbers. They are just facts.

1/15/2008 3:57:29 PM

moron
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^ his last line was "who needs to be the protected class now"

He clearly was making a statement/commentary.

1/15/2008 3:59:48 PM

agentlion
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oh right, he did
the first time i read it, i took that to be facetious

1/15/2008 4:03:38 PM

God
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facetious

1/15/2008 6:59:34 PM

rainman
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I want to be a stay at home dad.

1/15/2008 7:14:34 PM

hooksaw
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Leaving Men Behind: Women Go to College in Ever-Greater Numbers
Nov 13, 2007


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"In the last three decades, women have come to form a solid majority of America's college student population. This is great news, but many others think this progress comes at the expense of college-age men, whose rates of postsecondary school attendance have stagnated."


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"Gender Ratios at Sample Universities

School % Male % Female

Columbia University 47.9 50.3
University of Wisconsin, Madison 47.3 52.7
University of Texas, Austin 49.5 50.5
Purdue University 58.9 41.1
Rice University 43 57
University of Virginia 47 53
Florida Atlantic University 40 60
Kent State University 39 61
University of California, Davis 45 55"


http://education-portal.com/articles/Leaving_Men_Behind:_Women_Go_to_College_in_Ever-Greater_Numbers.html

Where The Boys Aren't
The gender gap on college campuses


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"At colleges across the country, 58 women will enroll as freshmen for every 42 men. And as the class of 2010 proceeds toward graduation, the male numbers will dwindle. Because more men than women drop out, the ratio after four years will be 60--40, according to projections by the Department of Education.

The problem isn't new-women bachelor's degree--earners first outstripped men in 1982. But the gap, which remained modest for some time, is widening. More and more girls are graduating from high school and following through on their college ambitions, while boys are failing to keep pace and, by some measures, losing ground."


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"Yet few alarm bells are ringing [emphasis added]. In the early 1970s, when the college demographics were roughly reversed at 43 percent female and 57 percent male, federal education laws were reformed with the enactment in 1972 of Title IX, a provision that requires numerical parity for women in various areas of federally funded schooling. Feminist groups pushed the Equal Rights Amendment through the House and Senate. Universities opened women's studies departments. And the United Nations declared 1975 the International Year of the Woman. The problem was structural, feminists never tired of repeating: A system built by men, for men, was blocking women's way.

Today's shortage of men, by contrast, is largely ignored, denied, or covered up. Talk to university administrators, and few will admit that the imbalance is a problem, let alone that they're addressing it. Consider the view of Stephen Farmer, director of undergraduate admissions at the University of North Carolina--Chapel Hill, where this year's enrollment is only 41.6 percent male. 'We really have made no attempt to balance the class. We are gender blind in applications, very scrupulously so.'

Why the blind devotion to gender--blindness? Because affirmative action for men is politically incorrect. And at universities receiving federal funding like UNC, it's also illegal. 'My understanding of Title IX is that an admissions process that advantages men would be very difficult to defend, Farmer says'
[emphasis added]."


http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/531ffoaa.asp

[Edited on January 16, 2008 at 12:17 AM. Reason : .]

1/16/2008 12:13:39 AM

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Interesting.

Too bad that couldn't happen here at NCSU and in the engineering departments.

1/16/2008 12:21:33 AM

hooksaw
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^ Need more women, huh?

1/16/2008 12:37:37 AM

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Quote :
"Those stats by themselves are 100% meaningless.

You would have to compare them to job pay rates/experience or job acceptance rates or something else.

It's like looking at the number of black players in sports, and proclaiming that blacks have reached social equality."

1/16/2008 1:33:20 AM

hooksaw
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^
Quote :
"Those stats by themselves are This post by itself is 100% meaningless."


Fixed.

1/16/2008 2:43:50 AM

moron
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So you're acknowledging your post is meaningless? I can't disagree with that either, for most of your posts.

1/20/2008 2:49:28 AM

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humans cant bred if dudes are working with all dudes...need some hot bitches with jobs to repopulate

1/20/2008 3:24:36 AM

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Much more to be said on this issue:

http://www.blackexcel.org/ratios.htm

Over 2/3rds of blacks who graduate college are women.



Also, for my statistical understanding in a nutshell:
*The most reliable studies indicate women have a only slightly higher average IQ than men
*A fact more solidly established is that there's a wider IQ distribution among men

so, let's pretend IQ is a measure of general academic ability. Those attending college are a selection of above a certain IQ (or some similarly operating composite function).

The most important claims you can make are that 1. there are far more men out of the 25% stupidest people in society and 2. there are far more men than women in the 25% smartest people in society.

Among Nobel prize winners, CEOs, politicians, and most other high-level indicators, men are much more dominant. Also, long ago, when only a small elite attended college, it was much more stacked towards men. So, discounting social issues, a pseudo-1950 situation where the top 10% academic performers attended college, it makes sense that composition was maybe 70% male. However, as a larger portion of the population is able to attend college, it evens out at around 50% of the population attending college (the fact that womens have a higher average IQ accelerates this trend). Then if say, 75% of the population attends college, the trend is strongly reversed, and there are many more women than men in college.


Yes, it's more complicated, but the one thing that is clear and well-verified is that there are more very stupid and more very smart men than there are women, who are more likely to be average.

A likely cause for this is expression of genes in the XY chromosomes. Basically, the Y part does nothing. The X part will to some degree code for intelligence, this means that women have twice the number of intellect genes expressing themselves (simplified model). Since men have less genes expressing themselves, extremely "smart" genes will manifest themselves moreso than in women, where they are likely to be coupled with more "normal" genes.


Don't have time to search for all the articles where I read this. But you get the picture.

[Edited on January 20, 2008 at 4:17 AM. Reason : ]

1/20/2008 4:17:01 AM

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