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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,322766,00.html

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"A new, highly drug-resistant strain of MRSA, or methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, has moved outside hospitals and is now spreading among gay men, researchers reported Monday.

Some of the hardest hit areas are San Francisco, Boston, New York and Los Angeles, according to a San Francisco Chronicle report.

Click here to read the San Francisco Chronicle story.

In regards to San Francisco, the study found sexually active gay men are 13 times more likely to be infected than the general population.

"We probably had it here first, and now it is spreading elsewhere," said Binh An Diep, a researcher at San Francisco General Hospital and lead author of the report, in a news release. "This is a national problem, and San Francisco is at the epicenter."

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1/15/2008 1:14:02 PM

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Mrsa me, my grandma would say.

1/15/2008 1:30:09 PM

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if these men already have aids, i dont find this surprising

[Edited on January 15, 2008 at 1:41 PM. Reason : as]

1/15/2008 1:40:50 PM

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"Binh An Diep"


Bean Dip

1/15/2008 1:52:19 PM

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who cares, bird flu will kill us all anyways

1/15/2008 4:36:45 PM

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vanc for the win

1/15/2008 4:38:31 PM

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^there are already strains that are vanc-resistant

1/15/2008 5:09:20 PM

brainysmurf
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^ i know


but i cant remember and dont care enough to look and see if MRSA is sensitive to merepenem/imipenem etc

[Edited on January 15, 2008 at 5:21 PM. Reason : the folks that get paid more can worry about that, ill just hang it up and run it in]

1/15/2008 5:20:21 PM

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i thought you got MRSA from animals? like mites and fleas on animals?

1/15/2008 6:00:38 PM

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n/m

[Edited on January 15, 2008 at 8:36 PM. Reason : n/m]

1/15/2008 8:35:57 PM

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^^nope, it's person-to-person spread

1/15/2008 8:55:33 PM

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i am not a fan of mrsa

i had it in my foot once

working on ambulances ftl

1/15/2008 9:21:34 PM

brainysmurf
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its prolly in your nose too

id bet that im mrsa colonized

1/15/2008 10:08:26 PM

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Fox news stole my thread title

Motherfuckers!

They changed the headline to read: "The new AIDS?" after I posted this thread.

[Edited on January 15, 2008 at 10:10 PM. Reason : 2]

1/15/2008 10:09:16 PM

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Well, I may have been exposed to BSE (mad cow disease)--I spent almost three years in Europe during the '80s. I used to regularly donate blood but now I am banned--permanently--because of the potential BSE exposure.

Moo.

1/16/2008 12:01:19 AM

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Hey it's cool man, I got diabetes and they told me they didn't want my blood either.

It's kind of like being a leper.

This is most unfortunate for the chowder monkeys that are going to get this disease. Gay people just don't seem to be getting a break in the biblical plague category of diseases.

1/16/2008 12:10:39 AM

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its way too soon for a new aids.

i haven't even gotten the old one yet.

1/16/2008 12:27:43 AM

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MRSA is a staph infection. If you shower regularly (especially after working out) wash your hands, wear clean clothes and avoid physical contact (ie gay buttsex) with people who have nasty shit growing on them, you stand a good chance of avoiding it. As a wrestler I'm an expert on avoiding this kind of stuff.

Basically don't be a dirty basterd and you got nothing to worry about.

1/16/2008 12:29:03 AM

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well damn


my years in nursing school, and dave's years in med school are just wasted all to hell


cuz you know so more than us

1/16/2008 12:39:44 AM

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Maybe so, but you gave no usefull information.

1/16/2008 12:52:16 AM

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i always trust people who spell useful as usefull

1/16/2008 1:21:56 AM

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for those of us that are not homosexual, have good immune systems, exercise, and eat fairly healthy, i'm guessing this does not apply

1/16/2008 1:24:41 AM

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haha good call.

Drunkn', if you are in the gym as much as you claim to be, you are at in increased risk.

1/16/2008 1:29:06 AM

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actually havent been to carmichael since freshman year other than taking fitness walking

i go to lake johnson for aerobic

1/16/2008 1:37:19 AM

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its actually very contagious

if you test positive for MRSA in a hospital, or if you come in from an outside hospital you go on contact isolation. meaning you must wear a gown and gloves when you enter a patients room.

oh fuck it

just read this http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dhqp/ar_mrsa_healthcareFS.html

1/16/2008 1:57:28 AM

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something ado about the "new gay man's plague"

1/16/2008 2:26:33 AM

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^^
You shouldn't get you'r panties in such a twist. I didn't say I knew more than you or anyone else. Just saying that as a person whose wrestled since they could walk, I've never gotten staph, ringworm, or any other skin infection in a sport where it is rampant. That said, those were the techniques that worked for me and should work for most people in their day to day life. Guess what, I have medical training too, but I didn't have to mention it or use it to talk down to people.

Funny thing though, the link you posted says, in a nutshell, to maintain propper hygeine and avoiding contact with MRSA to keep from getting it.. You know, kind of exactly what I said.

[Edited on January 16, 2008 at 2:28 AM. Reason : ^^]

1/16/2008 2:28:04 AM

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RIP Chapel Hill

1/16/2008 7:53:54 AM

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it would be funny to see your nasal swab come back positive despite your excellent hygeine.

everyone admitted to our icu is swabbed. we expect mrsa to be in people from other facilities esp nursing homes. but more and more people are turning out to be positive for no good reason other than mrsa is a common community infection now.

just because youve never had an active mrsal infection doesnt mean you arent colonized.

that itchy nose you absentmindedly scratched just minutes after touching that shopping cart? Yeah, thats how it happens. only your young healthy immune system keeps you from getting active mrsa pneumonia because your body recognizes the staph bacteria.

the reason im pretty sure im colonized, i worked in the large animal hospital with mrsa positive horses. how much of that mrsa positive dust did i inhale?

OR how many times have i been sprayed in the face by microscopic mrsa infected secretions from disconnected ventilators, that spray that shit all over the room.

perfect hygeine is gonna prevent that fuck no.

i am sure you are vigilent about your hygeine while you wrestle, but its that one time when you werent so vigilent out and about doing your daily activities. Or what about that microsopic skin tear you had while being face planted on that dirty wet mat.


dont be so arrogant to assume you dont have mrsa.

in medicine, that shit will kill you quick-- i cant have blah blah blah because i protect myself by taking xyz actions..........famous last words of a dead man

1/16/2008 7:57:16 AM

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is it me, or is this old news.

couple months ago it hit bit around here. its still big, but no big deal

half of UNC hospital has MRSA.

1/16/2008 8:59:59 AM

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^^^ LOL

1/16/2008 11:18:18 AM

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^^^As a matter of fact I have been nasal swabbed for it and was negative. So who is making assumptions here? A guy who I wrestled with had a real nasty case of staph a few months ago and there was "MRSA scare." I personally wasn't too worried, and was right not to be. As far as dirty mats go, every place I've ever wrestled at (and that numbers in the hundreds) thuroughly mopped the mats with bleach both before and after practices/matches. This is standard practice. That combined with the fact that most wrestlers cover up with long sleeves, sweats, and regular skin and fingernail checks by coaches and trainers greatly reduce risks. Through in a shower immediatly after walking off the mat and puting on clean clothes and the desired results are generally (But not always) reached.

Ironically, the scaremongering you just heaped was exactly what I was trying to head off. You act as if you've told me anything I don't already know. You can get it off of shopping carts, and atm machines, door knobs and toilets in public bathrooms, ect.? Really? No fucking shit. Anything Is possible. I would question the likelihood seeing as MRSA has been around a good while and there is no massive outbreak in the general population. I seem to remember my parents and teachers warning me not to put my hands in my mouth and wash them regularly because these very reasons. I teach my kids the same thing. It's called common sense.

As for air hadndlers pumping MRSA dust into hospitals, nursing homes and vets, you are correct, these places carry a much higher risk of infection and colonization. I trust that as a medical proffessional you take the propper precautions to best avoid passing it on. Nothing is full proof of course, but I'm sure you do what you can. But for most people who don't frequent these places, they're day to day lives should not be lived in fear of this. Remember West Nile? I think you see where I'm going.

Fact of the matter is that good hygiene, situational awareness, and avoiding contact is about all a person can do. I'm not saying this is something that the medical community shouldn't be vigilent about. Just that no one needs to be hitting the panic button just yet.

[Edited on January 16, 2008 at 11:37 AM. Reason : ^]

1/16/2008 11:37:15 AM

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so what does being colonized mean?

1/16/2008 12:23:16 PM

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fucking fags and their damned diseases. just don't be hooking up w/ my bitches so i don't have to worry about this shit

1/16/2008 12:27:33 PM

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[Edited on January 16, 2008 at 12:31 PM. Reason : sike]

1/16/2008 12:31:38 PM

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brainysmurf just got owned

we need to drop the brainy part

1/16/2008 12:51:55 PM

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scaremongering, i worry about other things than MRSA

the media is all omg mrsa

im tryin to say that omg a large portion of the community already has mrsa and they aint dead yet.



like i said im most likely colonized, but its not worth it to me to be tested and deal with a long cycle of vanc.

now, if i get a giant boil or something somewhere, then yeah id go get it lanced and cultured.

in the meantime, ill just make sure to not pick my nose and then do patient care

1/16/2008 1:32:39 PM

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does being colonized mean your immune or something

1/16/2008 3:03:47 PM

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I think it means you're a carrier, but it has not actively attacked your body yet (and may not ever).

But I'm no medical professional...

1/16/2008 3:13:02 PM

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my husband got MRSA through an IV at the hospital (from them not cleaning the fucking IV entrance with a swab) - its fucking horrible, hes had 3 I&Ds to cut out the infection out of his arm which looks so fucked up now and gets Vancomycin at least 10 times a week, and hes pretty much resistant to the Vanc now

the infection started at the IV spot while he was admitted in the hospital for something else, so they blame theirselves for it

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1/16/2008 4:40:49 PM

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"so what does being colonized mean?"


your body is always covered, inside and out, with bacteria like Staph. Its normal, healthy, in most cases helpful to the body, and doesn't cause a problem. So when somone says they are colonized that means that they, like you, probably have the the bacterium activley growing on their skin (inclusing the "skin" that lines your nose, organs, lungs, digestive tract, ect). People that are more likey to be exposed to a specific species of bacteria would be those individuals who are more likey to come in contact with it, ie healthcare workers, wreastlers, daycare providers, ect. MRSA is a bad staph infection, one that happens to be is antibiotic resistant. Normal people will have Staph living on their skin but healthcare workers are more likey to be exposed to antibiotic restistant forms of staph (MRSA) bc the cronically ill get reoccuring infections and as a result get infected with more resistant forms of bacteria to which the healthcare workers are then exposed. However, heathcare workers are also more likey to not get sick from it because of their being exposed to it alot more. You get a staph infection from a wound, like a cut or scrape on the skin, and the bacteria that is was on your skin now gets into your tissue or blood supply producing infection. So to say your colonized means its on your skin and its normal but more prevent for some then others and normally it is perfectly fine and doesn't cause any problems or harm to your body

1/16/2008 5:04:10 PM

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if im not mistaken MRSA has been the 4th leading cause of hospital deaths dense roughly the 70's and the 1st leading cause of nosocomial infections for shit, years

1/16/2008 5:06:10 PM

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I had a pretty nasty MRSA encounter last March. It started as a tiny bump on my knee on a Sunday. It looked like a small whitehead from an ingrown hair. I left for New Jersey on Monday for work. By Tuesday/Wednesday I realized something was up. I ended up putting off going to the doctor until the following Friday when I was getting back to Raleigh. By that point I couldn't put any weight on my leg and my veins were tracking up my leg. I went to the doctor Friday and was given an antiobiotic and sent away. I woke up Saturday with all kinds of fluids coming out of a tiny hole that had opened on top of the 'lump" that had developed. I'll spare everyone the nasty details but suffice it to say there was a lot of infection in there. When they sliced me open at the hospital they said I was a couple days away from possibly losing my leg. It ended up leading to dermatitis. All around not a good time and I sure as hell learned my lesson about putting off a doctor's visit.

1/16/2008 8:41:04 PM

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i actually learned the exact same lesson after being bitten (unknowingly) by a brown recluse at this girls beach house a couple years ago. it started out as what looked like a whitehead on my thigh and by the end of the week it was the size of a nickel and was spawning new spots from underneath my skin. fucking scary at the time, but a good story now that it's past

[Edited on January 17, 2008 at 12:40 AM. Reason : sp]

1/17/2008 12:39:37 AM

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im glad duke has a hyperbaric chamber

1/17/2008 12:46:29 AM

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1/17/2008 1:30:21 AM

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im so so so so so glad that im not my job. i mean its great that you do healthcare, and i sure couldn't handle it (although i'd love to take a stab at pharm school someday)

but i can not imagine being so consumed by what i do that i cant stop talking about it. this thread wasnt even informative at all, at least not from brainys constant reminders that she works with dying people and bullet traumas to the domepiece

no offense or anything. but it would make sense if it seemed to interest you, all i hear is war stories from you. i guess this could be your e-outlet and youre normal in person... but from the other medical people i know, i dont think so.

doctors and cops

1/17/2008 2:15:46 AM

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aww you remembered my bullet war story from 3 months ago

glad you were paying attention back then considering no war stories have been mentioned in this thread that did provide some useful information had you bothered to click a link or two...

at least im not posting about how i got drunk, got high, fucked someone, or got fucked over by someone, woe is me my life is miserable


for what its worth, the medicine, the physiology, is interesting as hell, most people are in medicine because it interesting. Sure isnt for the money.


but cops and healthcare workers will tell you

humanity fucking sucks balls

but having said that, most days, i love my job

im not burned out yet

1/17/2008 3:06:36 AM

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as said, normally i would make fun of someone for caring about something i said. but since i respect what you do, i won't do that.

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"no offense or anything"


i apologize if i offended you. i guess anything that follows a "no offense" is pretty much going to offend someone. now that i've read it again i see that it does look worse than i remembered.

however, the fact remains that i meant no harm. i guess i just come off like an asshole when i start to wonder aloud. if i had to deal with blood and dodge spraying juices and shit like that, i can't imagine what i would be saying about it.

i have already addressed this via a PM, but you are entitled to your e-outlet.

and there you have it. public apology from jackleg. no way i could do the job, so don't take it as an insult when my mouth starts running

1/17/2008 10:20:53 AM

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no offense jackleg, but i love you(no homo)

1/17/2008 10:29:01 AM

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