http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/17/border.fence/index.html

interesting read. I'm on the side of the land owners. The government cannot force you to put up a fence on your property. And I especially don't like Michael Chertoff, the Secretary of Homeland Security, arrogance in this matter.

1/17/2008 4:21:45 PM

Constitution , what's that?

1/17/2008 4:32:08 PM

Its like the old testament. It applied back then but not today.

1/17/2008 4:40:13 PM

If the landowner doesnt want the fence on his land just put his land on the otherside of the fence. Solves the problem. So then he wouldnt have a fence in his backyard, just the front.

1/17/2008 4:40:16 PM

^ [buries face in palm]

1/17/2008 4:43:02 PM

If the government is willing to pay for any land they're going to use, I don't see a problem. If they just expect to take the land though and build shit on it, and for the landowners to simply comply (just because) they can get fucked.

If they didn't act like arrogant dickbags when it came to property rights people might be more willing to reason with them, but now they might have a fight in court and breed a lot of resentment in a lot of land-owning tax-paying citizens. This will probably only end badly.

1/17/2008 5:15:40 PM

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"If the government is willing to pay for any land they're going to use, I don't see a problem. If they just expect to take the land though and build shit on it, and for the landowners to simply comply (just because) they can get fucked."

read the article. No way this woman is going to hand over her land for $$$. Its her family legacy dating back to the late 1700's

1/17/2008 5:27:42 PM

fuck the government.

1/17/2008 5:35:52 PM

The border fence is a good idea. The border fence will not eliminate illegal immigration, but it should slow it. Just like locking your car door to slow or deter thieves from taking it.

Besides, don't these border residents want to keep illegal immigrants out? Or at the least, keep strangers from another country off your lawn? Or am I the only one that see's it that way? I don't see why these people are so opposed to a fence. It's probably a combination of anti-government mentality and pro-illegal sentiment.

1/17/2008 6:31:15 PM

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"read the article. No way this woman is going to hand over her land for $$$. Its her family legacy dating back to the late 1700's"

So her family was originally Mexican...

1/17/2008 6:53:41 PM

^^so if you lived on the edge of raleigh and the government demanded that they were going to run an ugly barbed wire fence on your property to keep the cary folk out, you'd be ok with that?

1/17/2008 6:55:04 PM

^ Heck yeah. Keep those Yankees out!

1/17/2008 6:56:38 PM

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"Besides, don't these border residents want to keep illegal immigrants out? Or at the least, keep strangers from another country off your lawn?"

that's when u get your shotgun out

1/17/2008 6:59:20 PM

Well, if they don't like the look of the fence, maybe they can provide prettier options. Like one of these,



Or one of these,



Just add a few razors to the top and it should provide form and function. Come on. Our government sucks at new ideas. They can't ever think up good ideas. I thought of this idea just after a few minutes on the toilet.

1/17/2008 7:06:24 PM

it could be a wall of gold but who would want barbed wire running across their property?

1/17/2008 7:08:12 PM

Great Wall of China anybody

1/17/2008 8:04:52 PM

seems like eminent domain actually might apply here.

1/18/2008 2:28:14 AM

smeone needs to tell the dumbasses in Washington that Mexicans have ladders, and shovels.

1/18/2008 12:24:33 PM

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"The government cannot force you to put up a fence on your property."

eminent domain.

1/18/2008 2:02:26 PM

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"The border fence is a good idea. The border fence will not eliminate illegal immigration, but it should slow it. Just like locking your car door to slow or deter thieves from taking it. "

bullshit

700 miles of fence on a 2200 mile stretch is not going to do shit

this fence isn't like locking your card door
its like rolling the window up 1/3 of the way and leaving it unlocked

1/18/2008 2:10:46 PM

Nick

I don't understand why you hate the Freedom Wall.

It will create more jobs.

Clearly.

1/18/2008 2:19:01 PM

This is true. Just think of all the illegal immigrants that will be employed to build it!

1/18/2008 2:22:40 PM

Penn and Teller built an example of the wall that will be erected with illegal labor
they then asked these same laborers to, in teams of two, climb over, go under or go through the wall

all told it took EACH group about an extra 2 minutes

1/18/2008 2:37:21 PM

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"someone needs to tell the dumbasses in Washington that Mexicans have ladders, and shovels."

lol, thats the first thing you've said on here that was 100% correct



^ yep... they lolled

[Edited on January 18, 2008 at 2:43 PM. Reason : !]

1/18/2008 2:42:33 PM

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""Can we simply abandon an enterprise because it is a problem for a particular individual?" Chertoff told CNN. "I don't think I can accept that.""

I disagree with Michael Chertoff at a fundamental level

fucking communitarian bastard

1/18/2008 2:47:54 PM